##unvote

Intent to look elsewhere

for now.

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

The weird thing is, why sometimes a reporter and sometimes not?

I read the 3rd-person as a defence, just detailing what we've been saying about him, then saying:

31 minutes ago, LTD said:

I'm not a traitor. I'm town. I have a useful role that prevents me being nightkilled. Please do not lynch me. I am useful to the team.

He's insistent but Imo i don't buy it, this just seems to be trying to hard to not get killed. I'm not a traitor, I'm town, please don't lynch me, i'm useful to the team.

This could be a town stressing the fact of not killing him.

But if we but LTD at what he says, then by de facto his proclaiming of Preyers innocence would be less scummy by proxy. So if we take them off the list where are we seeing scum?

My top 3 are in order:

LTD, Gnips, Mad (sorry mad but you're still 50/50 for me but leaning town, if LTD is scum then you get a pass, but if he's town the cal breadcrumb and perfect link to LTD would put you at the top). My point being if not LTD then who?

Here's my analysis (such as it is)

So either the Traitors are in the group that voted (hoping for bandwagon roll) (madaghmire, CNinja, podracer, ovinomanc3r) or the group that didn't (aiming for a no lynch).

If in the group hoping for a bandwagon, my suspicion lies on madaghmire and CNinja.

If in the group that didn't vote, my list starts with EbonHawk, as he seems very keen to lynch me.

In my very complicated plot thinking, I'd say it's EbonHawk and CNinja working together - which is why they deliberately picked a fight with each other in day one over seemingly nothing.

That's all I've got.

##vote EbonHawk

Off for a number of hours at work - unless I get lynched, in which case - AVENGE ME DAVID BROOKS!

(also, EbonHawk - if you are relying on the Guardian to tell you the truth about Football, you have bigger problems...)

8 minutes ago, LTD said:

If in the group that didn't vote, my list starts with EbonHawk, as he seems very keen to lynch me.

I'm keen to find scum, and I'll have it noted I held my vote because I wanted to hear your response and most of my stuff towards you has been aimed at the fact you were quiet and i was wanting to hear from you, i was keen for you to talk if anything... and nothing you've said so far has convinced me enough to remove the vote

9 minutes ago, LTD said:

In my very complicated plot thinking, I'd say it's EbonHawk and CNinja working together - which is why they deliberately picked a fight with each other in day one over seemingly nothing.

I can tell you're wrong in that assumption, I'm no threat and unlike you I can prove that this round...

Me and ninja just crossed wires early on D1, nothing since he's done has made him stand out to me anything other than town.

14 minutes ago, LTD said:

(also, EbonHawk - if you are relying on the Guardian to tell you the truth about Football, you have bigger problems...)

it was the first article i found that covered it

I'm off to sleep now, will be on in the morning when i wake up

9 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

So you defence is basically don't kill me i'm town, who ins't when up for trail lmao.. but saying you can't be nightkilled is handy if you were nightkilling to explain not dying, but if you tell the truth then you're saying to us your a Vet, which should be out there to stop any docs going on you and dying themselves. Not too convinced by this defence though..

@GhostofNobodyInParticular surely you have something to add now? or still lurking

Sleeping. Or was anyway. I'm back now.

LTD's defense is a bit weak, but then again, so are mine, mostly. He could just be bad at them, or not know what to say. I do find his implied resistance to night kills interesting, and would hesitate to vote him for that, but then again, it is the simplest and easiest approach to justifying his continued presence (assuming he is scum). There also isn't any way of proving it, short of lynching or going a night without a kill. And even then, it would raise all sorts of questions. . .

*Sigh* I am uncertain, but largely unconvinced. I think I'll err on the side of caution and

##vote @LTD

since otherwise we could be letting a mafia member sit unvoted. The possibility and potential for his current defense to be a scum's is too great.

I believe that that is L-1.

Ok, how about this - @GhostofNobodyInParticular - unvote me, putting me at L-2.

Then I'll vote for myself, putting me at L-1. If you still think I'm the traitor, put in the killing vote.

I have no other argument than "I'm not the traitor."

Of course that can't be believed on face value, so better that I be killed and we at least get a solid vote on an individual.

1 minute ago, LTD said:

Ok, how about this - @GhostofNobodyInParticular - unvote me, putting me at L-2.

Then I'll vote for myself, putting me at L-1. If you still think I'm the traitor, put in the killing vote.

I have no other argument than "I'm not the traitor."

Of course that can't be believed on face value, so better that I be killed and we at least get a solid vote on an individual.

I don't think self-voting is allowed. @Visovics

Your proposal does weaken my resolve somewhat, but it has, unfortunately, been used before by scum, and saved them. Granted, it has also been used by town and saved them, but the potential is still there.

Ok then, if it's not allowed, I'll do it anyway.

##vote LTD

10 hours ago, Lord Preyer said:

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++SuspectPool:

“Highly suspect are @GhostofNobodyInParticular @ovinomanc3r and@CaribbeanNinja in that order” - per@Madaghmire

++Plus Madaghmire if *whirrrrr* *click* HumanDoubleBluffMethodologyEmployed??++

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RELATEDQUERY:If_LTD_suspected_would_he_have_been_able_to_detect_Cal_breadcrumb?

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@LTD being unable to catch the breadcrumb doesn't make impossible to a mate to do it.

9 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Who in the **** is a reporter Bounty Hunter?

I also looked for Lando recording his adventures scene. I didn't find it

7 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Sleeping. Or was anyway. I'm back now.

LTD's defense is a bit weak, but then again, so are mine, mostly. He could just be bad at them, or not know what to say. I do find his implied resistance to night kills interesting, and would hesitate to vote him for that, but then again, it is the simplest and easiest approach to justifying his continued presence (assuming he is scum). There also isn't any way of proving it, short of lynching or going a night without a kill. And even then, it would raise all sorts of questions. . .

*Sigh* I am uncertain, but largely unconvinced. I think I'll err on the side of caution and

##vote @LTD

since otherwise we could be letting a mafia member sit unvoted. The possibility and potential for his current defense to be a scum's is too great.

I believe that that is L-1.

Pord unvoted

3 minutes ago, LTD said:

Ok, how about this - @GhostofNobodyInParticular - unvote me, putting me at L-2.

Then I'll vote for myself, putting me at L-1. If you still think I'm the traitor, put in the killing vote.

I have no other argument than "I'm not the traitor."

Of course that can't be believed on face value, so better that I be killed and we at least get a solid vote on an individual.

Meaningless

Well, if I can vote for myself ovinomanc3r just posted after a hammer, so that's a modkill.

I count 5 votes for me, not including Pod.

I was at L-1, then Pod unvoted, then GNIPS voted, then I voted.

So if I can vote for myself, that's a hammer.

If not, LTD is at L-1.

Fiat justitia ruat caelum!

16 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

This was Cal’s vote.

This was marked as scummy. And I think it might be. But not because its scum defending scum, as some have surmised. I think this is scum defending a player they know are town, because it could pay dividends later as town cred. Because when Prayer flops town it will look good, and maybe Preyer flops soon because town hangs him. Especially when Cal shows up dead. Especially after;

We notice that Cal was Preyers vote. A great place to throw suspicion.

For the moment;

##vote LTD

16 hours ago, MandalorianMoose said:

##vote LTD

10 hours ago, PodRacer said:

Lets do This

##Vote LTD

L2 maybe L1, not exactly sure

Time to start talking LTD

10 hours ago, PodRacer said:

##unvote

Intent to look elsewhere

for now.

41 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Sleeping. Or was anyway. I'm back now.

LTD's defense is a bit weak, but then again, so are mine, mostly. He could just be bad at them, or not know what to say. I do find his implied resistance to night kills interesting, and would hesitate to vote him for that, but then again, it is the simplest and easiest approach to justifying his continued presence (assuming he is scum). There also isn't any way of proving it, short of lynching or going a night without a kill. And even then, it would raise all sorts of questions. . .

*Sigh* I am uncertain, but largely unconvinced. I think I'll err on the side of caution and

##vote @LTD

since otherwise we could be letting a mafia member sit unvoted. The possibility and potential for his current defense to be a scum's is too great.

I believe that that is L-1.

27 minutes ago, LTD said:

Ok then, if it's not allowed, I'll do it anyway.

##vote LTD

7 minutes ago, LTD said:

Well, if I can vote for myself ovinomanc3r just posted after a hammer, so that's a modkill.

I count 5 votes for me, not including Pod.

I was at L-1, then Pod unvoted, then GNIPS voted, then I voted.

So if I can vote for myself, that's a hammer.

If not, LTD is at L-1.

You should do some math

16 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

This was Cal’s vote.

This was marked as scummy. And I think it might be. But not because its scum defending scum, as some have surmised. I think this is scum defending a player they know are town, because it could pay dividends later as town cred. Because when Prayer flops town it will look good, and maybe Preyer flops soon because town hangs him. Especially when Cal shows up dead. Especially after;

We notice that Cal was Preyers vote. A great place to throw suspicion.

For the moment;

##vote LTD

1 vote.

16 hours ago, MandalorianMoose said:

##vote LTD

2 votes

10 hours ago, PodRacer said:

Lets do This

##Vote LTD

L2 maybe L1, not exactly sure

Time to start talking LTD

3 votes.

10 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

As mentioned above I don't think the defence is much from LTD, also the reporter thing ninja brings up is odd.. if he's claiming veteran it would seem strange for the flavour to be a news guy.. something just seems off, if he's town i'll eat my words but something just seems scummy because reading through the last game where he was town he was posting a lot more, and seemed to add his thoughts to the game. So far he's only joke voted, and jumped to Preyers defence, then in his most recent post he doesn't even address who he thinks could be scum instead of him, just a defence of being non-night killable so for that

##vote @LTD

he's my strongest read atm and i don't see anyone else i'd vote on currently that's L1

4 votes.

10 hours ago, PodRacer said:

##unvote

Intent to look elsewhere

for now.

3 votes.

50 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Sleeping. Or was anyway. I'm back now.

LTD's defense is a bit weak, but then again, so are mine, mostly. He could just be bad at them, or not know what to say. I do find his implied resistance to night kills interesting, and would hesitate to vote him for that, but then again, it is the simplest and easiest approach to justifying his continued presence (assuming he is scum). There also isn't any way of proving it, short of lynching or going a night without a kill. And even then, it would raise all sorts of questions. . .

*Sigh* I am uncertain, but largely unconvinced. I think I'll err on the side of caution and

##vote @LTD

since otherwise we could be letting a mafia member sit unvoted. The possibility and potential for his current defense to be a scum's is too great.

I believe that that is L-1.

4 votes.

7 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

You should do some math

You forgot Ebon's vote. It is L-1.

2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

1 vote.

2 votes

3 votes.

4 votes.

3 votes.

4 votes.

You forgot Ebon's vote. It is L-1.

it seems...

10 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

As mentioned above I don't think the defence is much from LTD, also the reporter thing ninja brings up is odd.. if he's claiming veteran it would seem strange for the flavour to be a news guy.. something just seems off, if he's town i'll eat my words but something just seems scummy because reading through the last game where he was town he was posting a lot more, and seemed to add his thoughts to the game. So far he's only joke voted, and jumped to Preyers defence, then in his most recent post he doesn't even address who he thinks could be scum instead of him, just a defence of being non-night killable so for that

##vote @LTD

he's my strongest read atm and i don't see anyone else i'd vote on currently that's L1

Anyway, he is asking for a lynch with his "I cannot be night-killed". Not sure If he worth it.

How is that asking for a lynch?

3 minutes ago, LTD said:

How is that asking for a lynch?

Morning all, I think ovi means that the ability to not be night killed while plausible it’s also the best role for a mafia to hide under. The only way of finding out that role is via a lynch. Otherwise you could be maf hiding behind it.

He is also eager to autolynch himself and kick me out through modkill...

42 minutes ago, LTD said:

Well, if I can vote for myself ovinomanc3r just posted after a hammer, so that's a modkill.

I count 5 votes for me, not including Pod.

I was at L-1, then Pod unvoted, then GNIPS voted, then I voted.

So if I can vote for myself, that's a hammer.

If not, LTD is at L-1.

I really don’t understand this whole post? Also why would you want to vote yourself off?

Unless your town and wanted to fo*k us over for killing you? hmm

as I always think the latter when up for lynch (“stupid town won’t see I’m town I’ll show them in my own lynch”). I also feel LTD is too green (no offence) to know anything about this defence being used in the past by us

so ##unvote

but this leaves me between a rock a hard place vote wise as if it’s not LTD I don’t have a clue.. my next thoughts would be nips and mad. Anyone else online that makes sense of this

2 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

He is also eager to autolynch himself and kick me out through modkill...

Yes I saw that, but when I looked at it I thought is that more scum or salty town

LTD or Ghost. They didn't cast a vote during first day (LTD at least voted me).

Also I think checking if Mad is bluffing could be helpful.

ugh! I am really rusty.

17 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

This was Cal’s vote.

This was marked as scummy. And I think it might be. But not because its scum defending scum, as some have surmised. I think this is scum defending a player they know are town, because it could pay dividends later as town cred. Because when Prayer flops town it will look good, and maybe Preyer flops soon because town hangs him. Especially when Cal shows up dead. Especially after;

We notice that Cal was Preyers vote. A great place to throw suspicion.

For the moment;

##vote LTD