RACLo/Vader

By Tbetts94, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Wow I’m really hooked onto the list! I won 72-31 (half points on RAC) against Asajj/Sixxa, and 100-31 (half points again) against Lothal/Fenn (not the exact popular build, but pretty scary without AT...). I decided to take Ion Pulse Missiles on Vader instead of Cruise for more control, as with Krennic you can still do 2 damage with them plus the 2 Ions. I’ll keep flying it for a while...

Btw I didn’t Coordinate a single time! First game Asajj was always stressing me, and 2nd game... I dunno, gues it was never the best option...

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4 hours ago, RoockieBoy said:

... as with Krennic you can still do 2 damage with them plus the 2 Ions.

Optimized prototype only lets you spend the die on primary attacks, not secondaries. The control aspect still works well in what can otherwise be a pretty predictable list though.

1 hour ago, Jimbawa said:

Optimized prototype only lets you spend the die on primary attacks, not secondaries. The control aspect still works well in what can otherwise be a pretty predictable list though.

Nice catch! I totally missed that.

6 hours ago, RoockieBoy said:

Wow I’m really hooked onto the list! I won 72-31 (half points on RAC) against Asajj/Sixxa, and 100-31 (half points again) against Lothal/Fenn (not the exact popular build, but pretty scary without AT...). I decided to take Ion Pulse Missiles on Vader instead of Cruise for more control, as with Krennic you can still do 2 damage with them plus the 2 Ions. I’ll keep flying it for a while...

Btw I didn’t Coordinate a single time! First game Asajj was always stressing me, and 2nd game... I dunno, gues it was never the best option...

You can drop Tac.Off. and use ion bombs instead.

2 hours ago, Ryuneke said:

You can drop Tac.Off. and use ion bombs instead.

I’ll probaly give Tac.Off another go, as a blocked Vader is usually a dead vader. That actually happened in my first game, where Asajj blocked Vader, and Sixxa got a R1 TLd attack on Vader. RAC was just outside of R2 of Vader and i couldn’t get him out of trouble. I was also out of R3 of Sixxa, so I couldn’t Kylo him into a Blinded pilot. Luckily Sixxa “only” got 3 out of 4 hits, and even though Vader blanked out, survived on 1 hull until the end of the game. If RAC had been at coordination range of vader I could have easily escaped...

On ‎6‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 6:07 AM, Tbetts94 said:

Immune to blocking will help against the incoming X-Wing swarms.

If you're planning for heavy swarms, then finding a point to upgrade Vader's Cruise Missiles to Harpoons is a good idea, especially with Chiraneau to reliably set them off the same time they're fired.

Tactical Officer could be dunked off in favour of....I dunno? Inspiring Recruit? (good - especially for vader - if you see a stressbot), a 1 point initiative bid (not a bad call with two PS10s), or to give Vader Veteran Instincts for PS11.

Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Adaptability (0)
Emperor Palpatine (8)
Director Krennic (5)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Dauntless (2)

Darth Vader (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 100

This one.

51 minutes ago, Stefan said:

Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Adaptability (0)
Emperor Palpatine (8)
Director Krennic (5)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Dauntless (2)

Darth Vader (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 100

This one.

I’d drop Dauntless if you don’t have Tact or Kylo for VI and a bid. It’s one version I’ve been considering.

5 hours ago, Tbetts94 said:

I’d drop Dauntless if you don’t have Tact or Kylo for VI and a bid. It’s one version I’ve been considering.

I strongly advise not to drop Dauntless. The bump action is great with the deci. It allows you to bump and kylo to avoid shots, or any other action needed.

On 6/27/2018 at 12:34 AM, Ryuneke said:

I’m flying nearly the same list but without tactical officer. I don’t think that he’s very useful because you want to Kylo or boost with RAC. Vader doesn’t need a 3rd action very often either. Or do I miss something?

btw: I’m using ion bombs on the deci. Most opponents are really surprised when they drop.

There's nothing better than dropping an ion bomb and sending a full health ghost off the board.

On 7/3/2018 at 1:55 PM, Biggsy_boy said:

I strongly advise not to drop Dauntless. The bump action is great with the deci. It allows you to bump and kylo to avoid shots, or any other action needed.

That’s why I said if he dropped Kylo and Tact. Only action he’d have is boost to use.

I played 2 more games with the first list against 3x Cavern Angels (Snapshot, FAA, IA, S-Foils) and Crimson Specialist with Thermals and Trajectory.

Awful matchup for Chiraneau, as he really bleeds with those snapshots and 4 ship lists are hard.

I started strong, taking one X-Wing off the board before he had a chance to shoot. RAC lost all shields. Next turn the Trajectory-simulated thermal was unavoidable for RAC, but Vader closed into R1 of the bomber and stripped all shields and dealt a crit. RAC dealt a Blinded pilot to the closest X-Wing but he ditched the droid and fired at RAC.

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Next turn I made a mistake and K-Turned Vader behind Crimson. I was so focused on the trajectory I completely forgot about the "normal" way of dropping bombs hehe. So Vader was double stressed, and RAC was taking too much damage. I even took the crit that prevented me from doing straight maneuvers which was awful, as I was in a good spot to fly past the bomber with a 3 straight and boost away...

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RAC died next turn but he left the bomber on 1 hull before doing so. Vader was triple stressed, as I had to turn away from the bomber.

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The bomber ran away to avoid being shot, and the X-WIng closed in on Vader. I tried my best to try and arc dodge but Vader was killed the turn I got rid of all but one stress tokens. One more turn and a focus evade Vader would have been much harder to pin down.

2nd game went a lot worse. I wasn't able to kill one x-wing with RAC as he rolled 3 natties at R3 to avoid my 2 hits and a crit, and 2 eyeballs having a focus on the following turn, where I was unable to get 4 hits despite having TL and RACs ability and ended up on 1 hull, no droid, but that same X-Wing did a total of 9 damage to RAC thanks to snap shots (hit, crit first shot and hit, hit on the 2nd), and getting 4 hits in an unmodded R1 shot. Vader couldn't solo the whole list when RAC died...