K-Fighters vs X-wings in 2.0

By Ronu, in X-Wing

4 minutes ago, ForceM said:

What i meant, was how many can we put on one ship now?

Unknown but probably only one.

None of the prebuilt ships cards have had duplicates of the same mod, some have had shield and Hull upgrade when double hull is cheaper and double shield is stronger.

18 hours ago, Ronu said:

Paging @FTS Gecko your input is needed.

I'm disappointed the Kihraxz lost the 5K, but yeah, I think the dial is superior to the X. That 1-turn is so, so useful in the thick of things. Picking up the barrel roll is great as well but perhaps most unexpected was the extra hull in 2nd edition. The X-Wing's extra hull made sense as it essentially replaced Integrated, but the Kihraxz' came out of nowhere. I'd say the basic frames are pretty well balanced, so it will all come down to pricing.

The X-Wing's definitely have the edge when it comes to ace pilot abilities, though. They really look like they're moving up the competitive tiers.

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

The X-Wing's definitely have the edge when it comes to ace pilot abilities, though. They really look like they're moving up the competitive tiers.

Well we have two confirmed K fighter Aces. The big question is Jostero and if he stays as he was or has a totally different skill. Also Graz the Hunter, a Pilot not just under used but a pilot skill that really didn’t seem to help him get in the table combine with his lack of an EPT.

Kfighter having 3 mods and theres no more mods that add actions or so kinda limits it imo. Pretty sure theres several mods we havent seen, but so far its almost guaranteed to have empty mod slots or just HP buffers.

I find it weird they kept the 3mod thing when the point of that was the kfighter had NOTHING so it actually needed all those mods (and it still only brought it to playable not great). It had a weirdly paced dial, bad greens, only 2 actions, and it was squishy with 2 agi/5hp. It desperately needed boost/broll at a minimum.

On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Commander Kaine said:

I find the new K-fighter underwhelming when compared to the X.

Protorps are the new kings of ordnance, missile carriers are no longer the absolute bosses.

Droids not only provide regen, but a significant dial upgrades as well. Green turns are great.

The X-wing can still take 2 mods, so the K-fighter only has the benefit of +1 mod...

...which is already underwhelming, as most mods are fairly tame.

Illicits were taken care of, they are nowhere near as good as they were.

I think in this class of fighters the order is something like this:

X-Wing
Advanced
Khiraxz

What is strange, is that due to the X-Wings range of available upgrades and pilots, they are more customizable than a Khiraxz, and can be more maneuverable than an Advanced.

Which leaves a strange taste in my mouth.

All of these ships look balanced on Paper, but when examining them more closely, there is a discrepancy in power, favoring the X-Wing. We will see the pricing I guess, but I have a sneaking suspicion about this.

On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Scum4Life said:

Yep, so the Khiraxz gets the ability to equip a third modification and one turns. It is now even more a wash.

Thread necromancy.

I reread the AMA thread here, which brought me back here. Citing MB:

"Speaking of cost, one thing that has changed enormously in Second Edition is the thought process behind costing upgrades. Simply put, upgrades can cost a lot more than they did before".

This does not bode very well for the Kihraxz if they are not getting some price reduction for equipped stuff like the Vaksai did in 1.0. As 2.0 looks so far, having more ships is probably superior to few high cost ships, due to less defense.

I think that the Kihraxz might be decent as a third option with two high-price aces, as a semi-tanky jouster/blocker. Starting off at 1 Shield, 5 Hull makes it fairly strong, it has a decent dial, and the three mod slots mean that making it even hardier is easily done. A low Initiative Kihraxz paired with 2 Fang Aces like Fenn and Teroch should give the enemy some issues.

The Kihraxz does have some advantages against other small Scum ships- it will last longer than something like a M3-A/Z-95, it is more maneuverable than a Y-wing, and it should be less expensive than a Star Viper. I view the Kihraxz as a complimentary ship, it fits well with other ships, as either a ship with very similar dial to Fangs (giving Fangs a tanky helper), faster than a Kimogila (helping flank while Kimogilas joust), or just an all-around filler ship. Not a ship to base a list around, but one that can fit multiple roles to help out the main list ships.

Talonbane Cobra also looks solid, if he'll be priced right

On 6/16/2018 at 10:01 AM, Managarmr said:

Someone said LFL told FFG that they wanted to have more OT and StarWars recognisable ships on the tables. 

On 6/16/2018 at 10:25 AM, LordBlades said:

I find that hard to believe TBH. As long as the $$$ keeps flowing and FFG does their job promoting new content (movies, Rebels etc.) when they're told to I highly doubt LFL would micromanage to that degree.

Oh I believe someone said it here. I don't know if I believe it actually was said by LFL to FFG.

The amount of rumours and "I heard from my sister's hairdressers' gardener" stories tend to get the easily riled up in arms very quickly :P

Image result for star wars gif rumour

I love the K-Fighters, but the X-Wings will probably be better.

The more I think about it, the more I think that the Khiraxz and X-Wing will be a defining line for how the point system app will handle the game’s balance. Pilots aside, the X-Wing has astromechs, S-Foils, 1-straights, and what sounds like two mod slots. Fundamentally these ships are roughly similar and fill similar roles in their respective factions, but the Khiraxz will have it’s 3 mod slots, and 1-Turns. And based off of all this I would expect to see the Khiraxz a bit cheaper than the X. It makes sense thematically for the X-Wing to be a bit better and slighy more expensive, as otherwise the Rebels would have just bought a ton of Khiraxz off the black market (and would **** the continuity).

Edited by It’s One Of Ours
On 6/16/2018 at 11:07 AM, Scum4Life said:

Unknown but probably only one.

None of the prebuilt ships cards have had duplicates of the same mod, some have had shield and Hull upgrade when double hull is cheaper and double shield is stronger.

That might have more to do with what cards are in the expansion pack. It seems like they wouldn't have more of a card for one ship than what's in the pack + core set.

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