Which faction(s) would you collect if the prequels were included?

By mazz0, in X-Wing

45 minutes ago, Freeptop said:

I'm just not sure there's enough content to make balanced factions.

CIS: Vulture, Hyena, Tri-Fighter, Bellbullab-22, Sheathipede... not really anything else. I guess you could toss in Maul's Scimitar and Palpatine's Theta-class Shuttle.

Basically, the issue is that there isn't any new content being generated here, so the faction would be perpetually left with some rather large holes in its lineup, and without a way to easily provide new upgrades to the faction. I guess FFG could go the Imperial Raider route and make up stuff from scratch, but I suspect they'd rather put their energy into the existing factions.

I will admit, though, I wouldn't mind being able to get some of the Republic ships, though... V-19 Torrent, Nu-class Attack Shuttle, and the Nimbus V-Wing are all ships I wouldn't mind adding to my collection.

I wouldn’t mind them being small factions, and I also wouldn’t mind FFG making some ships up (especially if they’re as cool as the Raider).

There’s also Dooku’s shuttle, but I will admit I’m not a fan of the separatist ships at all - it’s all about the Republic for me - Jedi Starfighters, ARC-170s, N1s, Naboo shuttles, loads of ships from Clone Wars.

1 hour ago, Freeptop said:

CIS: Vulture, Hyena, Tri-Fighter, Bellbullab-22, Sheathipede... not really anything else. I guess you could toss in Maul's Scimitar and Palpatine's Theta-class Shuttle.

Geonosian starfighters http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nantex-class_territorial_defense_starfighter

Umbaran starfighters http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Umbaran_starfighter

Ventress' fighter http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ginivex-class_starfighter

P-38 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Porax-38_starfighter

Mankvim 814 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mankvim-814_light_interceptor

Scarab-class droid starfighter http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Scarab-class_droid_starfighter

There's plenty of material out there :)

Jedi! Would that count as a faction?

I'd love to field 3 Jedi Starfighters with say 2 top-notch pilots and one named with low PS and no EPT (still a Force user like the generic Inquisitor).

1 hour ago, Freeptop said:

I'm just not sure there's enough content to make balanced factions.

CIS: Vulture, Hyena, Tri-Fighter, Bellbullab-22, Sheathipede... not really anything else. I guess you could toss in Maul's Scimitar and Palpatine's Theta-class Shuttle.

Basically, the issue is that there isn't any new content being generated here, so the faction would be perpetually left with some rather large holes in its lineup, and without a way to easily provide new upgrades to the faction. I guess FFG could go the Imperial Raider route and make up stuff from scratch, but I suspect they'd rather put their energy into the existing factions.

I will admit, though, I wouldn't mind being able to get some of the Republic ships, though... V-19 Torrent, Nu-class Attack Shuttle, and the Nimbus V-Wing are all ships I wouldn't mind adding to my collection.

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You don't even have all the main CIS ships (like the droid gunship, and probably others I cant think off the top of my head) listed let alone all the other ships from member systems.

There were a bunch of systems in the CIS with ships... Geonosis is a good example, someone else above posted more ships.

There is content everywhere, Star Wars is a big universe.

4 minutes ago, mazz0 said:

Meesa propose this ship and pilot be cross faction with the Scum and Villiany!

Sadly there's little fluff supporting that, AFAIK at least. Assajj never flies one of those again after leaving Dooku's service.

7 hours ago, Arkanta974 said:

All of them !

Ditto!!!

30 minutes ago, LordBlades said:

Sadly there's little fluff supporting that, AFAIK at least. Assajj never flies one of those again after leaving Dooku's service.

Pfffff! FFG can so their own lovely card art to rectify that :)

Besides, weren’t Dooku’s apprentices an unofficial position since Palpy wouldn’t approve? That would make them kinda scum, if you think about it :P

2 hours ago, Freeptop said:

I'm just not sure there's enough content to make balanced factions.

CIS: Vulture, Hyena, Tri-Fighter, Bellbullab-22, Sheathipede... not really anything else. I guess you could toss in Maul's Scimitar and Palpatine's Theta-class Shuttle.

Basically, the issue is that there isn't any new content being generated here, so the faction would be perpetually left with some rather large holes in its lineup, and without a way to easily provide new upgrades to the faction. I guess FFG could go the Imperial Raider route and make up stuff from scratch, but I suspect they'd rather put their energy into the existing factions.

I will admit, though, I wouldn't mind being able to get some of the Republic ships, though... V-19 Torrent, Nu-class Attack Shuttle, and the Nimbus V-Wing are all ships I wouldn't mind adding to my collection.

Exactly. The good guys get a ton of applicably sized ships and a ton of named (jedi too) pilots to go with it. The Seperatists get tiny droid ships with cool missiles and ... ermmm...

GEORGE! Can´ t you do a re edit and add in some more space scenes with cooler, bigger, droid ships, and some cool bad guy ones too, that don´ t just lok like they´ ll sail away! Oh..

And that is why Prequels ship ain´ t on the horizon as far as I can see...

1 hour ago, LordBlades said:

What he said. There is at least as many Separatist ships as there is Rebel ships. And that's just sticking to the movies/shows too! There is really only 8 rebel ships from the movies/shows and the rest are old EU material, we're already at 13 for the Seps with this list.

I think they would be an awesome faction that truly relied on numbers, 10 point vulture droids with 2 hull/atk and 3 agility would be great to run a swarm of. They also have a massive amount of commanders to use for crew cards:

Grievous: a friendly ship at distance 1-3 can suffer one damage to turn a dice into a crit.

Dooku: Force 1, Deal 1 damage to an enemy ship at range 2 and each ship at range 1 of that ship unless they take a stress token.

Sideous, same as Palpatine

Asajj, a quasi-Agent Kallus with ability to modify dice when attacking one chosen enemy.

Savage, when you overlap another ship deal a damage to yourself to deal two damage to another ship.

Mar Tuuk: Once per round when a friendly ship at range 1-3 in your firing arc overlaps an enemy ship you may destroy your ship to deal 2 damage to that enemy.

Republic's theme would obviously be all about force powers and commanding small Clone Wings. There is a ton of material to tap here, even if they just stick to currently "canon" material.

6 minutes ago, Larky Bobble said:

Exactly. The good guys get a ton of applicably sized ships and a ton of named (jedi too) pilots to go with it. The Seperatists get tiny droid ships with cool missiles and ... ermmm...

GEORGE! Can´ t you do a re edit and add in some more space scenes with cooler, bigger, droid ships, and some cool bad guy ones too, that don´ t just lok like they´ ll sail away! Oh..

And that is why Prequels ship ain´ t on the horizon as far as I can see...

Bring on the sweet sweet swarm. And how about buzz droid missiles! And Mar Tukk kamikaze Vulture Droids. Also Grievous, Dooku, Asajj and Darth Maul all have their own personal ships to make decent villains. And tons of named crew members to ride on the sheathipede and Dooku's personal shuttle.

Empire. With Y-wings, V-wings, V-19 Torrents, Z-95s, Arc-170, ETA-2 and maybe the Delta-7b. Throw in the Nu-class and Theta Class as well as the LAAT. All in beautiful Imperial grey.

I'm already this far in at collecting everything, might as well continue.

22 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Empire. With Y-wings, V-wings, V-19 Torrents, Z-95s, Arc-170, ETA-2 and maybe the Delta-7b. Throw in the Nu-class and Theta Class as well as the LAAT. All in beautiful Imperial grey.

EXACTLY.

(but don't forget all the TIE fighters too (I don't mind if you make all the stupid ones, make all of them if you have to - but pleeaasse!?))

4 hours ago, Icelom said:

You don't even have all the main CIS ships (like the droid gunship, and probably others I cant think off the top of my head) listed let alone all the other ships from member systems.

There were a bunch of systems in the CIS with ships... Geonosis is a good example, someone else above posted more ships.

There is content everywhere, Star Wars is a big universe.

I knew if I'd made a list, I was going to miss stuff... fair enough, though! I'll take my lumps on that one!

So what's the CIS equivalent to the Rebel's freighters or the Empire's Decimator? (Genuine question - I don't know, but I figure after the response I got, someone else will!)

I think buzz droids as ordnance would be sweet. Sure the republic get jedi but those buzz droids shredded the best pilot in the galaxies’ ship. You can have your force, those little gremlins eat ships alive and no amount of force power saves you. As this game is based on ship destruction I’d take buzz anyday over hokey religions and ancient weapons.

18 minutes ago, Freeptop said:

I knew if I'd made a list, I was going to miss stuff... fair enough, though! I'll take my lumps on that one!

So what's the CIS equivalent to the Rebel's freighters or the Empire's Decimator? (Genuine question - I don't know, but I figure after the response I got, someone else will!)

Good of you to say!

And Darth Maul's ship is pretty large and could qualify.

Droch-Class Boarding ship is almost long enough and would be an interesting ramming/anti-epic type piece.

Droid Gunship is also at least a Medium.

21 minutes ago, LordFajubi said:

Sure the republic get jedi but those buzz droids shredded the best pilot in the galaxies’ ship. You can have your force, those little gremlins eat ships alive and no amount of force power saves you. As this game is based on ship destruction I’d take buzz anyday over hokey religions and ancient weapons.

That always bugged me in that scene. Why didn’t Anikin and Obi Wan just force throw the little buggers off? There were only, like, a half dozen per ship. Just grab each one with the force and toss it aside. Faster than what Anakin did, and you don’t end up shooting your mentor in the process.

All except First Order and Resistance.

25 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

That always bugged me in that scene. Why didn’t Anikin and Obi Wan just force throw the little buggers off? There were only, like, a half dozen per ship. Just grab each one with the force and toss it aside. Faster than what Anakin did, and you don’t end up shooting your mentor in the process.

You've got to think of it from a practical effects standpoint. If they tried force-throwing them off, they might hit the camera man! ?

1 hour ago, Freeptop said:

So what's the CIS equivalent to the Rebel's freighters or the Empire's Decimator? (Genuine question - I don't know, but I figure after the response I got, someone else will!)

Do they have to have one? It makes thematic sense for rogues and empires to have big, hulking PWT ships, but the CIS was specifically focused on making things as cheap and numerous as possible. They might not have combat craft of that size, but their Mandalorian friends sure do, and the Gauntlet starfighter has a lot of popularity around the place. It might not be a 360 turret, but a 4-die primary is certainly possible, with IG-levels of manoeuvrability.

The Gauntlet is bigger than the ghost. It might be pushing huge ship size. Although they might try to make it single base. From what little I know about it, it functions a lot more like a Decimator/Falcon type of ship than it does a huge ship.

4 hours ago, LordFajubi said:

I think buzz droids as ordnance would be sweet. Sure the republic get jedi but those buzz droids shredded the best pilot in the galaxies’ ship. You can have your force, those little gremlins eat ships alive and no amount of force power saves you. As this game is based on ship destruction I’d take buzz anyday over hokey religions and ancient weapons.

I thought they shredded Obi Wan’s ship, Anakin was alright?

6 minutes ago, mazz0 said:

I thought they shredded Obi Wan’s ship, Anakin was alright?

Anakin wasn't hit. In Sabotage (TCW Season 5) Anakin is almost killed by buzzdroids, Ahsoka saves him.

9 hours ago, GILLIES291 said:

I think they would be an awesome faction that truly relied on numbers, 10 point vulture droids with 2 hull/atk and 3 agility would be great to run a swarm of. They also have a massive amount of commanders to use for crew cards:

Grievous: a friendly ship at distance 1-3 can suffer one damage to turn a dice into a crit.

Dooku: Force 1, Deal 1 damage to an enemy ship at range 2 and each ship at range 1 of that ship unless they take a stress token.

Sideous, same as Palpatine

Asajj, a quasi-Agent Kallus with ability to modify dice when attacking one chosen enemy.

Savage, when you overlap another ship deal a damage to yourself to deal two damage to another ship.

Mar Tuuk: Once per round when a friendly ship at range 1-3 in your firing arc overlaps an enemy ship you may destroy your ship to deal 2 damage to that enemy.

Don't forget Tech and General Kalani

but yes, CIS would be broadly swarm of expendables plus medium-level aces (nasty as they are as commanders, there's no reason to consider Assaj or Grievous especially good pilots) and/or commanders on a sheathipede.

Republic has a lot more generics-in-medium-fighters (the ARC and Y-wing are both pretty beefy, and the Torrent isn't exactly flimsy) with access to force powers on most of their aces.