With the Optimized Prototype condition, does spending a die to remove a shield count as a hit? Would removing that shield remove Stealth Device? Would it still allow Gunner to trigger? I'm leaning toward it does not count as a hit, since there is no "deal damage" type of wording.

6 minutes ago, enigmahfc said:

With the Optimized Prototype condition, does spending a die to remove a shield count as a hit? Would removing that shield remove Stealth Device? Would it still allow Gunner to trigger? I'm leaning toward it does not count as a hit, since there is no "deal damage" type of wording.

It isn’t called a hit, so its not a hit.

This is what I leaning toward, but I also know someone will try to argue the point, so I was just trying to back up my thoughts.

Hits can only come from the Compare Results step of the combat timing chart. There are lots of other ways to deal damage that don't count as hits... Bombs and Obstacles, for example, or certain upgrades like Black Market Slicer Tools. On the flip side, there are also ways to "hit" someone with an attack, yet deal no damage (such as a "missed" attack by Lt. Blount, or a Tractor Beam).

Categorically not a hit. The attack you use it on can still hit though.

While using Krennic isn't in itself causing an attack to hit, it's worth noting that an attack where you use Krennic might still be a hit, if in the "compare results" step you have more hit/crit results than your opponent has evade results.

I'll also note that removing a shield by Krennic would trigger an opponent's Quickdraw's ability, since the trigger there is removing a shield token, rather than being hit by an attack.

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

I'll also note that removing a shield by Krennic would trigger an opponent's Quickdraw's ability, since the trigger there is removing a shield token, rather than being hit by an attack.

Which is interesting in a different aspect... since you cancel one of your own dice results to use the shield-eating ability of Optimized Prototype, you may even negate their use of Lightweight Frame, if the situation warrants...

Which raises an interesting question of whether you can cancel a die to remove a shield that they don't have...

5 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

Which raises an interesting question of whether you can cancel a die to remove a shield that they don't have...

Personally, I'd say no, for the same reason you can't use something like Chopper or Pulsed Ray Shield to restore a shield you aren't missing.

I'm so glad 2e is coming.

5 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

I'm so glad 2e is coming.

Hopefully they corrected all the bad verbiage on the cards.

Doubt they got all of it but it's definitely light years better.