Honor bid (lower & higher)

By Tabris2k, in L5R LCG: Multiplayer Beta Discussion

Just a Rules question:

If a card in multiplayer refers to “if your honor bid is higher/lower” it still refers to the physical value of the dial in the moment the card is played, right?

Situation: In a 4 players game, everybody bid 4 except Lion (Bid 2).

Then a duel happens between 2 of the other players, and the honor dials change as a result (Crane player’s dial goes to 1)

When it’s the Lion’s turn, he tried to play Test of Courage against the Crane player, but Lion’s dial is 2 and Crane is 1. So we thought he can’t use it. But the Lion player insisted that his bid was lower than Crane’s, and he can use the card.

Test of Courage “Action: During a MIL conflict, if your honor bid is lower than your opponent's, choose a character you control – move that character to the conflict. Then, honor it.”

10 minutes ago, Tabris2k said:

Just a Rules question:

If a card in multiplayer refers to “if your honor bid is higher/lower” it still refers to the physical value of the dial in the moment the card is played, right?

Situation: In a 4 players game, everybody bid 4 except Lion (Bid 2).

Then a duel happens between 2 of the other players, and the honor dials change as a result (Crane player’s dial goes to 1)

When it’s the Lion’s turn, he tried to play Test of Courage against the Crane player, but Lion’s dial is 2 and Crane is 1. So we thought he can’t use it. But the Lion player insisted that his bid was lower than Crane’s, and he can use the card.

Test of Courage “Action: During a MIL conflict, if your honor bid is lower than your opponent's, choose a character you control – move that character to the conflict. Then, honor it.”

You are always comparing the current values on the dials not the bid that was made during the draw phase so the Crane bid would have turned off the Lion's Test.

Yeah, totally what I thought, but this friend wanted confirmation elsewhere out of our group ?

Thanks

Yep. The dueling always change the honor dial state.