Anyone else feeling stuck by this change?

By DarkSpade, in X-Wing

So they went with only 2 of most small ships in the conversion kits. Great, I bought at least 3 of each. I'm looking at spending at least $300 to get all the conversion kits I need. That's 2 per faction and we don't even know about the epic ships yet. Sucks extra since I wasn't able to get the last few waves so I'll be paying to convert ships I don't even have yet too. I feel like the game just got way too expensive for as often as I get to play it and yet my collection has little no resale value now so bailing on it completely isn't really a good option either. I guess I got some nice display pieces at least? I suppose just sticking with v1 is an option too, but I'm liking what I'm seeing of v2.

I can't fault FFG for this. the game needs an update and it is nice that they didn't just make everyone go out and buy all new minis to play it. Maybe if they had split the large and small ships into two separate conversion kits? An option to buy single ship kits would have been nice too. Even if it was online only and a little more expensive vs buying it one lump sum.

Just curious if anyone else is in the same boat and what their plans are. I know I have far from the largest collection here.

Edited by DarkSpade

Buy one conversion kit and then resort to barter and the secondary market.

You are not alone brother, word for word how I feel pretty much. I ended up reasoning that spending $300 to play with my $2000 collection that I rarely ever use was worth it though to get some value out of 2 years collecting. 2.0 looks like a game I’d much rather play. I am decorating my car with extras on the dashboard ala Yondu.

3 minutes ago, Stefan said:

Buy one conversion kit and then resort to barter and the secondary market.

The time and shipping investment makes this an option but not a good one. It’s a tax on an already taxed investment. Good luck to those doing this but it’s not for me and I expect many others. As for trading, I have nothing but 1.0 junk to trade I can literally use everything in the conversions I am buying and would need more besides.

It's going to be an entirely new meta. Why worry about not being able to field a squad of 5 A-Wings or whatever when you don't even know if it will be possible in the first place.

I have a pretty **** large collection, and despite my penchant for FIVE. CARTEL. MARAUDERS. I'll only be picking up one Scum conversion kit. Why? Because one kit will still give you hundreds of combinations to try out, and if I decide I want to field more, then I can pick them up at a later date.

You're under no obligation to update every single one of your ships, and certainly under no obligation to do it all at once.

Edited by FTS Gecko
Just now, FTS Gecko said:

Because one kit will still give you hundreds of combination to try out, and I do decide I want to field more, then I can pick them up at a later date.

This is a fair point and my total mentality to 2.0. I am going to spend NOWHERE near as much this time. Restraint is a valuable ally in game hobbies.

Wait and see what the future wave upgrade kits will look like. You'll feel pretty silly buying multiple conversion kits for your A-wings if the wave 2 upgrade kit includes generics and dials for the A-wing at a good price. I'd also be shocked if the epic conversion stuff didn't include at least some stuff for converting regular ships. Nobody needs to be able to field their entire collection on day one, have some patience and see how things work out.

(Strange how this keeps coming up. It's almost as if most forumers don't read other people's posts...)

Ok, there are some legitimate concerns (eg there are 4 Z95 dials in the rebel conversion kit but only 3 Bandit and Tala pilot cards) which could have been planned for better, but no-one should really be trying to convert every ship of a large collection immediately. I'm waiting to see what gets done for epic (which is where massed generic conversions should be) before wailing and gnashing my teeth.

Additionally, I think I'm the only player in my group with too many Z95s, so I can just borrow/buy their excess bits. Kihraxzs are slightly harder (I have 6, almost everyone I know has 2, and one other player has 5), X-Wings are fine to start off with since it looks unlikely that we'll be able to field 5 in standard and there are 2 dials per kit, along with 1 in the core set and one in Saw's Renegades. The rest of my X-Wings can proxy away in casual/epic games for a year or two if necessary until FFG get round to doing the epicness that is EPIC!

REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Embrace the squad-building challenge of bringing a variety of ships.

I've been buying one large, two small. Whatever am I to do with all of these extra large ship dials and bases?

Buy what you need to begin playing with. If you only play a couple times a month, why convert your entire collection right this instant? You arent going to fly 8 Tie Swarm, and 5 awings, and BBBBZ, and FIVE. CARTEL. MARAUDERS right out the gate. Just slow down and breathe. WOOSAH

44 minutes ago, Hawkstrike said:

I've been buying one large, two small. Whatever am I to do with all of these extra large ship dials and bases?

For a small fee I can get you in contact with a buddy of mine named @ DarkSpade who needs extras.

I suppose I really am too much of a completest. I guess it comes from generally being the buyer/supplier of my game group. I'll still need to pick up one of each though, I get board of a faction quick. Makes all minis games rather expensive. ?

As the old saying goes, I've got OCD and ADD so everything has to be perfect, but not for very long.

1 hour ago, tortugatron said:

REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

While your point may be valid, your supporting arguments are weak. We'll have to agreeeeeeeee to disagreeeeeee.

2 hours ago, Gilarius said:

(Strange how this keeps coming up. It's almost as if most forumers don't read other people's posts...)

Sorry, I don't hit this forum very often anymore so I haven't seen similar threads to add too. Admittedly, I only checked the first page as in my experience in other places, that's the only one worth checking.

27 minutes ago, ObiWonka said:

For a small fee I can get you in contact with a buddy of mine named @ DarkSpade who needs extras.

Do you accept Imperial or New Republic credits?

3 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

It's going to be an entirely new meta. Why worry about not being able to field a squad of 5 A-Wings or whatever when you don't even know if it will be possible in the first place.

Man, this x1000. I have a large collection to but why would I even consider buying multiple conversion kits until I've played all the ships in one and decided which ones I even like in 2.0 and might want to run more than the kit provides. Not only will the meta be different but the ships themselves are so different how do I even know which ones I'll like in 2.0?

That way I see it is I get a pretty sweet deal for effectively getting a ton of new ships to try, and that'll keep me busy for quite some time! If down the road I want to run a 3rd or 4th of a ship, there's various ways but no point in even thinking about that until I find out if I even want that and with which ships.

tl/dr - blinding assuming you'll have to convert all your ships seems naive. Conversely for folks who never bought certain ships this is a huge benefit: you can totally "try them out" with all of the functional components that you need in the conversion kit box and go buy the plastic if you find you like one.

I’m buying a starter and one of each conversion kit. I have at least 3 of each small ship (and as many as 8-9 of some), but i’m Not buying multiple CKs. I’ll fill in later with ships I like to run multiples of in 2e.

Yep.. I only ever bought one of any one sku, so a single conversion kit will be just fine.

im staying with one faction. Scum. so one conversion kit and one starter set. there is a pretty small community here in NZ so i dont think there will be much of a resale market. im excited for many of the 2.0 scum ships. i feel your pain regarding converting my 1.0 collection.

I've bought multiples of a couple ships, but I don't have enough to not be okay with one CK - I've never gone for full on swarms of anything.

Can I point out that we have no idea the point cost or if they will limit the amount of ships to what’s in 1 conversion kit.

For me to have everything it’s going to be 4 conversion kits for imps however I will start with one for now seeing we also have no idea what epic is going to look like.

Edited by Cubanboy

i think most players who have been playing since wave1 have way more imperial ships than they were actually playing. the way the game evolved from fat turrets to TLT's dominating the meta those small swarmy lists just didnt see much play anymore. i have 8x 1.0 tie-fighters and 3 copies of very small imperial ship except the punisher. thats alot of hardware sitting collecting dust and im loathe to convert any of them. i have 3x lambda shuttles (loved this when it hit) and 3 firesprays (used to fly 3x generics in the same list). Similiar story for my rebel collection.have 2-3 of everything (5x 1.0 X-wings). Dash 2.0 looks pretty interesting, so does the new falcon for scum (i think ill end up busying that expansion just because its scum)

Im going to buy sparingly for 2.0 and aim to field lists that dont rely on too many ships or dials.

Edited by Da_Brown_Bomber

I won’t go into details out my collection only to say I have 12 X-Wings and 24 TIEs so yeah I have a large collection. I am so glad that FFG is putting out the conversion kits makes it so much easier to update.

A lot of good suggestions in here about not having update everything at the same time, all of it just won’t all be used at the same time.

Personally I’m going with a core set and 1 of each conversion kit. I’ll see about converting the rest at a later time and how to best go about that then.

Edited by miridor
7 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

Wait and see what the future wave upgrade kits will look like. You'll feel pretty silly buying multiple conversion kits for your A-wings if the wave 2 upgrade kit includes generics and dials for the A-wing at a good price. I'd also be shocked if the epic conversion stuff didn't include at least some stuff for converting regular ships. Nobody needs to be able to field their entire collection on day one, have some patience and see how things work out.

What’s a wave 2 upgrade kit?

Edited by mazz0

The idea of just playing around with a single conversion kit is fine for some, but doesn't float my boat. I don't want to leave 60% of my collection locked on my shelf. I bought 8 X Wings because I already had 7, and I wanted to fly 8. Same for my 4 B Wings, 4 A Wings, 4 Y Wings, ten TIE's, 4 Interceptors, 3 Bombers, 3 Defenders, etc etc. I also don't want to buy duplicates of ships I already own zero of, like K Wings, Ghosts, E Wings, etc. The notion that you can only field a certain number of ships is fine for some, but not applicable to everyone. I can play at any points limit I want, and I like larger games. I like themed games, narrative games, and Epic games, so being told I can only use two of any ship unless I pay $65 more per faction is a pretty rough slap in the nuts.

7 hours ago, Stefan said:

Buy one conversion kit and then resort to barter and the secondary market.

Unfortunately much more easily said than done. I've yet to meet anyone who will take two Ghost kits off my hands in return for two X Wing kits, as an example. There will be a glut of large based ships because people rarely bought more than one, and there will be a dearth of small based ships because a lot of people bought several of each one.