7 hours ago, 2P51 said:

I saw it in June of 1977 and remember Vader's ship flying away. That would've been one **** of a distribution turnaround time frame for 1977. Plus I read every scrap of everything that ever came out then and this is the first time I've ever heard this.

I agree the scene where Vader gets control of his TIE fighter was there from the start. I recall talking it over with my brother afterwards in 1977. I also recall the, "Vader Lives" fan-shirts that came out shortly afterwards.

8 minutes ago, Sturn said:

I agree the scene where Vader gets control of his TIE fighter was there from the start. I recall talking it over with my brother afterwards in 1977. I also recall the, "Vader Lives" fan-shirts that came out shortly afterwards.

I am not looking to start any arguments over it, but it just seems to me in the 3 or 4 weeks from premiere to when I saw it that would've been some kind of distribution masterpiece today, and nevermind USA 1977, particularly given the budget, how they played the reel at Comicon because marketing was so 'meh', etc. Also seems like it would be an often mentioned thing or discussion online and like I've said I've never heard of it.

Since we're on the topic, my memory used to recall Luke yelling, "No!" when Biggs died. I had a vivid memory of seeing Luke turn and look out of his X-wing and yell, "No!" or something similar. I no longer have the early theatrical release, only later rehashes where Luke just glances to the side. I recall decades ago arguing that he yelled something in anguish as Biggs died, but it later must have been cut due to cuts of Biggs being Luke's good friend. Without it being obvious that Biggs is such a friend, it no longer made sense that Luke would have such anguish over Biggs going boom.

I was later convinced that such never made it to the screen and it was just my memory playing tricks to me since I also read a graphic novelization or comics (?) after seeing it on the big screen. The novel had all of the references to Biggs, but it never made it to the screen. I just imagined it.

For another example, my teenage self also argued that in theater I had seen Luke looking up into the sky and seeing a glimpse of the battle in orbit, but it was later cut since later releases didn't have the scene. Now, we can see this scene online as one of the many cut scenes of Star Wars. But, again I now believe I had viewed it in the graphic novelization (where the scenes weren't cut) and my memory made me later think I had actually seen them in 1977 in the theater.

Thus, perhaps something similar is happening with people thinking Vader went boom in the original release? Did Vader go boom in one of the early novels? Graphical or otherwise? I have the non-graphic novel and could check, but I can't recall whatever happened to my graphical version. I can't even find references to it online, only the Marvel comic series, which I don't recall buying. Perhaps it was something else or my memories are from one of the many times I picked up and read Star Wars comic books and fan-mags while my mom shopped in a local grocery store in 1977-78?

I think I conflated stuff from the novelisation, which I read prior to seeing the movie, with stuff in the movie.
For example, I would have sworn when I first saw it Luke was "Blue Five", but on later viewings he was obviously "Red Five".

I'm not screaming witch, I'd find interesting if it's true. I just feel like it'd be way common knowledge.

12 hours ago, Daronil said:

I think I conflated stuff from the novelisation, which I read prior to seeing the movie, with stuff in the movie.
For example, I would have sworn when I first saw it Luke was "Blue Five", but on later viewings he was obviously "Red Five".

It was Blue in the original Marvel comics adaptation, too, working from an earlier draft of the script (like the novelization). For the longest time, without access to the movie itself after it left theaters, I was sure it was Blue because of the comic. I want to say that, when I got to see it again upon a rerelease prior to Empire, my 8 or 9 year old brain insisted the movie was wrong. ?

On 6/27/2018 at 9:06 PM, Sturn said:

I was later convinced that such never made it to the screen and it was just my memory playing tricks to me since I also read a graphic novelization or comics (?) after seeing it on the big screen. The novel had all of the references to Biggs, but it never made it to the screen. I just imagined it.

Our childish recollections are often poor or based on misinterpretations. In E1 there is a brief interlude where Maul and Qui Gon have to stop fighting because of the ray shield. Qui Gon kneels to meditate. My son told me that for years he thought Qui Gon was "bowing to the master"...an impression he formed when he was 6 and never questioned until a rewatch in his late teens.

On 6/26/2018 at 6:28 PM, Cifer said:

Lando was hired help and not included in the whole "You've botched things once, you deliver or die" deal of Vos.

... I wonder if Qi'ra paid him in advance.

He likely saw the gang, evaluated his options and decided that this deal, that was getting worse and worse all the time, just was not worth sticking around for. Since they were still refining the stuff, sticking around for pay would have hurt.

Chances are I'm exhuming a horse carcass just to beart on it some more, but Corellia is not very space-Texasy in SWTOR. Granted, thats 4,000 years earlier and entirely set on coronet city, but still...

Personally, I'm considering pouring all of my petty neighbourly bigotry into portraying it as space Småland .

I dont know. Seemed to have a lot of self reliance to me...