Extreme Action preview - Saw's Renegades in 2nd Edition

By Jarval, in X-Wing

6 hours ago, bernh said:

I doubt ARC-170 in 2.0 has a crew slot. Just gunner slot probably.

Why not? It has a 3 person crew.

6 hours ago, UnitOmega said:

ARC is a perfect excuse to have both (and an astro) and give it a unique combo.

Yep. Pilot, gunner, co-pilot crew, and astro make sense and would make for an interesting ship.

1 hour ago, pkreynolds said:

I think some longtime X-Wing players are in for a shock with 2.0s upgrade distribution plan. They are following the same method that they're using in Legion - common upgrades available in every expansion that can use them in a wave. This will mean that you'll get every viable upgrade without needing to buy ships from other factions (a good thing) but probably fewer different upgrades per wave (because those common ones will be filling space across several expansions). If you're buying all expansions this means you'll end up with a LOT of copies of upgrades.

I'm ok with this, I think that having brand new upgrades for every ship released is one of the things that helped facilitate the power creep in 1.0.

I want to play a game that relies more on skill than what upgrades you have.

Pilots were WAY more often the problem than upgrades.

Asajj, Nym, Fenn, Fenn, Dengar, Manaroo, Miranda, Lowhhrick, Dash, to name but a few. Not to mention fricking Biggles.

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44 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Pilots were WAY more often the problem than upgrades.

Asajj, Nym, Fenn, Fenn, Dengar, Manaroo, Miranda, Lowhhrick, Dash, to name but a few. Not to mention fricking Biggles.

Without upgrades, the only problems were...Biggles and Lowhrick

Everyone else needed upgrade synergy to be a thing (or even use their ability in the case of Nym)

6 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Without upgrades, the only problems were...Biggles and Lowhrick

Everyone else needed upgrade synergy to be a thing (or even use their ability in the case of Nym)

Both, then.

The pilots were not problematic without the upgrades, but mostly, the upgrades were also not problematic without the pilots.

2 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

Why not? It has a 3 person crew.

Yep. Pilot, gunner, co-pilot crew, and astro make sense and would make for an interesting ship.

I must say, if it doesn't it will be a pointless and largely useless ship

We already know the Y gets an astro + gunner + identical action bar + nearly identical dial. Some blue banks and a slightly largely dial do not merit making a whole other ship

Besides, you NEED crew to get Saw on Shara and have her not be useless

13 hours ago, gamblertuba said:

Although the price point on the cardboard only packs is going to be tricky.

The Imperial Raider card-only pack was like $100. I bet this is cheaper than the old way.

2 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

The Imperial Raider card-only pack was like $100. I bet this is cheaper than the old way.

That wasn't a card-only pack; it came with a TIE Advanced.

4 hours ago, skotothalamos said:

maybe the biggest news and/or mistake of the article:

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There are only six ship expansions announced so far.

Scum Falcon. Has to be, right?

4 minutes ago, digitalbusker said:

That wasn't a card-only pack; it came with a TIE Advanced.

Call it $85 for the cards, then :)

59 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I must say, if it doesn't it will be a pointless and largely useless ship

We already know the Y gets an astro + gunner + identical action bar + nearly identical dial. Some blue banks and a slightly largely dial do not merit making a whole other ship

Besides, you NEED crew to get Saw on Shara and have her not be useless

No ship is useless when points are infinitely negotiable.

16 hours ago, PanchoX1 said:

I noticed the pre order button on the upcoming list was gone for wave 14.

Nevermind. it's back today.

13 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

No ship is useless when points are infinitely negotiable.

Useless design-wise

If I want a super efficient 3 die primary, I'd rather take the X or B.

The ARC is a unique not-so-little ship and it's be a real missed opportunity if it just turns into another jouster when it could instead have an interesting array of upgrade combos across 3 useful slots.

Of that's assuming we get something other than vet tail gunner. Seems all the rebel Gunners are turret exclusive, making a crew slot all the more essential

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It says "Look for the Saw's Renegades Expansion Pack (SWX74) in stores late in the second quarter of 2018."

That's in like, two weeks. I'm ok with this.

Hello, what's the deal with x-wing generics now does anyone know? Are we going to be able to run 5 Blue Escorts in 2.0 so there's no need for thh cheap Generics to be in renegades for 2.0 or what? Does renegades come with the Reb /Blue generic x-wing pilots to? I am thinking it doesn't?

1 minute ago, Talonbane Cobra said:

Hello, what's the deal with x-wing generics now does anyone know? Are we going to be able to run 5 Blue Escorts in 2.0 so there's no need for thh cheap Generics to be in renegades for 2.0 or what? Does renegades come with the Reb /Blue generic x-wing pilots to? I am thinking it doesn't?

We don't know until 21 June.

But at a wild guess, Saw's will include CAZs for 1e and one or both of the normal generics for 2e.

Ah well this preview does have a CAZ card in it so they will be a thing in 2.0. with 3 named pilots i guess 1 CAZ on the back of each so 3 CAZ in 1 Renegade box. So need to decide if getting 2 sets is a good idea or not with little information.

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Fortunately, it seems Biggs/Selflessness cancels damage during Neutralize Results, so you can't take 0 damage on the VCX and still count it as a hit (going by the wording, you'd cancel the result before damage is totaled). Still, evil

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edit: (Kanan) Is a ship in its own firing arc? ?

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On 6/6/2018 at 5:52 AM, pkreynolds said:

Kind of makes you wonder if there's a secret, unnannounced expansion included in wave 1. Maybe a Solo tie-in Scum version of the Millennium Falcon?

So are you a time traveler or peeking at FFG's notes? :lol: You called it just about 24 hours before it was announced.

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The article says that Saw's Renegades should have the Illicit slot, which is why they have their own U-Wing and X-Wing generic, it seems.

1 hour ago, Nspace said:

So are you a time traveler or peaking at FFG's notes? :lol: You called it just about 24 hours before it was announced.

Stay indoors on June 18th... ;)

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