There are definitely distinct icons for single and double arc turrets, and Luke's card has the single-arc icon. Do we know for sure he works on the YTs?

Apologies if this has already come up, I didn't see anything on the first couple of pages.

Would certainly shut people up moaning if that is the case.

Haha, that was more or less what I thought. I think I'm wrong, though, 'cause the double-arc icon seems to only appear on the pilot cards themselves. It's never referenced by upgrades. Still, I figured it was worth pointing out.

1 minute ago, fhdz said:

There are definitely distinct icons for single and double arc turrets, and Luke's card has the single-arc icon. Do we know for sure he works on the YTs?

Apologies if this has already come up, I didn't see anything on the first couple of pages.

I'm thinking it is more like the difference between "arc" and "primary arc".

The symbol on Luke could be just to signify any mobile arc where the pointer is currently located.

The dual symbol could be more specific.

But I could be wrong.

No, Luke works on anything with a turret and a gunner slot.

39 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

I'm thinking it is more like the difference between "arc" and "primary arc".

The symbol on Luke could be just to signify any mobile arc where the pointer is currently located.

The dual symbol could be more specific.

But I could be wrong.

That is what I thought at first, but all the gunners have the same Icon, so I assume it means any mobile arc.

I know gameplay >>> fluff always, but come on.

The art features Luke in the Falcon (from a memorable scene in episode IV).

The single Mobile Arc Indicator on cards is just to encompass both kinds of mobile arc (single and double). Cards like Han solo even say you cannot attack out of a Mobile Arc Indicator that you have already attacked from.

The actual uncertainty is whether or not you could use Han or a Turret Gunner (or Ezra) to fire your forward-facing Mobile Arc and also fire your Primary Arc during the same round (for ships that have both arcs: Y, HWK, VCX etc + yts with missiles if they can still take them).

You may be onto something, this of course would mean Luke gunner could not be put on the Alluminium Falcon

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

I know gameplay >>> fluff always, but come on.

The art features Luke in the Falcon (from a memorable scene in episode IV).

The single Mobile Arc Indicator on cards is just to encompass both kinds of mobile arc (single and double). Cards like Han solo even say you cannot attack out of a Mobile Arc Indicator that you have already attacked from.

The actual uncertainty is whether or not you could use Han or a Turret Gunner (or Ezra) to fire your forward-facing Mobile Arc and also fire your Primary Arc during the same round (for ships that have both arcs: Y, HWK, VCX etc + yts with missiles if they can still take them).

The wording on Assajj leads me to believe that no, these cards will not work with a fixed arc into a mobile arc.

Pretty sure all the gunners can theoretically allow you to use turret upgrades and a normal fixed arc primary - they are seperate weapon values. If the HWK also has a gunner slot they'd work with Moldy Crow.

VTG and Ezra both say "after a primary" (so no missiles/torps), and require you to use a ⥀ weapon you haven't used yet. If you fire a ◴ primary, that is not a ⥀. We still need to know if both ends of the bowtie count as different ⥀ arcs though. Han's basically the reverse, you do a ⥀ shot first and then can't use it again, so that leaves secondary weapons open. The easiest one to interpret is Bossk over in Scum, since he just says "a primary", but also he only procs if you miss and forces a stress on you.

No, Luke works on both. There was a demo game involving Luke on Leebo today at the UK Games Expo. Ships with the double arc icon count as having two single arcs. We also found out Han crew does let you shoot twice.

I am confident that the mobile arc symbol seen on the Gunner cards refers to the turret weapon used to make the attack. It does not matter which arc is used to make the attack, only which weapon. For example, I am pretty sure that the Veteran Turret Gunner upgrade (if Y-Wings indeed have a Gunner slot) will allow a shot in the front arc from an equipped turret upgrade (if the mobile indicator is in the front arc, of course) after a shot from the primary weapon in the same front arc, simulating the double-attack effect of the 1st edition BTLA-4 title.

4 hours ago, apoapsis said:

No, Luke works on both. There was a demo game involving Luke on Leebo today at the UK Games Expo. Ships with the double arc icon count as having two single arcs. We also found out Han crew does let you shoot twice.

Out of the same arc? (Y, VCX, HWK etc.)

Han says out of a different arc.

different Mobile Arc Indicator, not arc necessarily

HWKs, Ys, VCXs etc. have their primary weapons split between a primary arc and a mobile arc with distinct dice values

YTs don't have a filled in primary arc, so no double tapping with Han there.

Based on what @apoapsis said, I think it works like this:

If you do an attack "with a ⥀" it means a turret weapon (which includes both singles and doubles). When something refers to somebody being "in a ⥀" or otherwise the ⥀ as a location, then it's referring to the arc quadrant the pointer in on. So Han says "pick a [turret weapon], shoot first, you can't shoot from that same [turreted arc area] again" which would theoretically leave the other arc open, or some missiles or something. Assuming that is actually how the rules are supposed to go. We know the symbols can mean both a weapon and an area based on abilities with the front arc symbol.

12 hours ago, UnitOmega said:

Based on what @apoapsis said, I think it works like this:

If you do an attack "with a ⥀" it means a turret weapon (which includes both singles and doubles). When something refers to somebody being "in a ⥀" or otherwise the ⥀ as a location, then it's referring to the arc quadrant the pointer in on. So Han says "pick a [turret weapon], shoot first, you can't shoot from that same [turreted arc area] again" which would theoretically leave the other arc open, or some missiles or something. Assuming that is actually how the rules are supposed to go. We know the symbols can mean both a weapon and an area based on abilities with the front arc symbol.

I played against Alex Davy in one of the demo games on saturday and he confirmed that is how it will work.

Some of these new gunner abilities are going to be very powerful but also difficult to set up on a consistent basis