Rey/Poe

By Tbetts94, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Been playing Han a ton, but like to switch it up a little so I don’t get bored, but like to keep same archetype. Especially, cuz of my painted Black One Falcon.

“The Theme Though”

(45) Rey
(3) C-3PO
(5) Finn
(0) Adaptability (+1)
(1) Millennium Falcon OT
(4) Engine Upgrade
Total: 58 points

(33) Poe Dameron PS9
(2) Intensity
(2) BB-8
(1) Primed Thrusters
(1) Black One
(2) Autothrusters
Total: 41 points

List total: 99 points

Edited by Tbetts94

Actually if she’s got 3PO and Evade title so striving for a focus. How about this? PS8’s and no Black One, but Black One’s value goes down in PS level.

The Theme Though

(45) Rey
(3) C-3PO
(5) Finn
(4) Expertise
(1) Millennium Falcon
(4) Engine Upgrade
Total: 62 points

(31) Poe Dameron
(2) Intensity
(2) BB-8
(1) Primed Thrusters
(2) Autothrusters
Total: 38 points

List total: 100 points

I don't think Rey is worth flying without the sloop title and Kanan. Her ability is too hard to proc otherwise.

Poetensity is fun, but I wonder if he isn't just outclasses by Poptics. I think so

On 6/1/2018 at 3:10 PM, Greebwahn said:

I don't think Rey is worth flying without the sloop title and Kanan. Her ability is too hard to proc otherwise.

Poetensity is fun, but I wonder if he isn't just outclasses by Poptics. I think so

Paging @gennataos

The evade title and 3PO works great for Han and Chewie but I always find myself going all-in on Rey’s offensive capabilities with Kanan/Finn. Burnout SLAM or countermeasures is also pretty good as opposed to EU.

Dang now I’m thinking about Rey/Poe before 2.0 comes along and we have to wait for the FO/Resistance Kits.

Edited by jwilliamson12
2 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

How convenient! I just got back from vacation!

I've both tried and seen games with tanky Rey (C-3P0, evade title) and find it like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Sure, it increases her survivability, but at the cost of her damage output, which is kind of what Rey does.

Poetensity is great, but he's plain harder to fly and keep alive than Poptics when faced with anything moving after him, which is most every ace against a Rey/Poetensity list due to points remaining for a bid (re:none).

I've spent a decent amount of time running Rey/Poe in just about every (reasonable) configuration you can mash together, and have found this to be the best. I'd love to have Engine on her, but she needs Expertise more than Engine and Poe needs high PS and the title more than Rey needs Engine. Here are a couple recommendations on how to setup/fly, there are really just basic "duh" suggestions for the two ships:

  • Debris, no rocks
  • Look for opportunities for Poe to make use of the Kanan ability, even when YOLOing over debris
  • Just because you brought BB-8, doesn't mean you have to use him every turn
  • Burnout SLAM is situational, but is great to get Rey IN the fight before your opponent expects it or just slamming into ships to avoid shots
  • Keep Poe on the perimeter, at range 3, as much as you can
  • Don't be afraid to run and reset
  • If Rey is unlikely to receive fire, target lock...don't just automatically take a focus. Ideally you take one on a ship you're NOT planning to fire at which is in arc (to have for later), but it's also fine to take it against your primary target. It feels bad when you don't get to reroll that Finn die
  • Rey is going to get burned down most of the time, it's expected. The hope is you've given Poe a chance to win
  • If Poe goes down first, there's a really good chance you've already lost
  • This doesn't handle a lot of the meta big hitters well...don't expect to win a lot of those

Rey (45)
Expertise (4)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Burnout SLAM (1)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 100

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Had a blast flying this last night. I really missed Engine Upgrade. Is Expertise and/or PS9 that important?

34 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

Had a blast flying this last night. I really missed Engine Upgrade. Is Expertise and/or PS9 that important?

Depends on how much the dice favor you.

I also played the above list this weekend against QuickDraw and two Rhoboats. Maybe it’ll take better flying but I lost Norra in two turns of combat. Poe, however, is a champ. Especially on those gunboats who need TL’s. BB-8/boost actions to shed those TLs effectively turned them into sitting ducks.

If I would have concentrated on QD early, I would have won. But I lost Rey which led Poe to finish the job while outnumbered 3-1. I got QD and one Rhoboat down, but I was down to two hull vs a full health Rhoboat.

The Rhoboats are tough to kill when they can Slam into R3 and focus.

If I can keep Rey around for at least one more round of combat, it’d make all the difference.

Edited by jwilliamson12

Slightly off topic I flew a lot of Chewie and Poe and Rhos never impressed me. Once the Falcon gets behind them, they’re done.

1 hour ago, BlodVargarna said:

Had a blast flying this last night. I really missed Engine Upgrade. Is Expertise and/or PS9 that important?

I think Expertise is necessary to allow Rey to do what she does, which is punch hard. I've run plenty of Rey with and without it...her offense feels like it's really lacking without it. PS11 Poe may not be necessary, PS10 might be fine, but where do you spend those points?

Along these lines, I think I've committed to running Rey/Poe exclusively until 2.0 drops. There's nothing in a 1.0 kit of any type that I care about that much aside from GenCon, and I don't think me getting top 8 for the BB-8 templates is realistic enough with any list to warrant practicing with something else. I'd rather be the best Rey/Poe player I can be by GenCon than another face in the sea of the meta.

I really loved flying Rey through debris to have Kanan remove stress and give her an action. “Surprise MF!”

I’m with you on picking a list and sticking with it. Everything is so dependent on match ups anyway.

2 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

I really loved flying Rey through debris to have Kanan remove stress and give her an action. “Surprise MF!”

Most of my locals are well-versed in me doing this, so I don't get to surprise them anymore. Some still get surprised if I pull the stress off a different ship. And all question it the first time I do it against them.

2 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

I’m with you on picking a list and sticking with it. Everything is so dependent on match ups anyway.

There are definitely some better choices out there...a lot of them. I just figure I can do well enough with it that I'm not ashamed and I have a lot of fun. ;)

Edited by gennataos
42 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Most of my locals are well-versed in me doing this, so I don't get to surprise them anymore. Some still get surprised if I pull the stress off a different ship. And all question it the first time I do it against them.

There are definitely some better choices out there...a lot of them. I just figure I can do well enough with it that I'm not ashamed and I have a lot of fun. ;)

Any advice on Rey not dying so quickly?

1 hour ago, jwilliamson12 said:

Any advice on Rey not dying so quickly?

Hah, well, that requires some context!

With Rey, I generally try to abide by the notion of "if you can't get out, get in". Slooping is almost always the right choice when available, but not always if you're hosed for the next turn or two. I don't want her taking concentrated fire if I can help it, so if a move can make it so that's the case, like a bump, I'll often do that. I also want her engaging with Poe, not solo (pun!), so I'll run away(ish) and reset if I have to for Poe to come back into the fight. Like, I may not sloop immediately even if she has a good shot if that means she's going to get pummeled the next turn with Poe nowhere close. I'll just keep her pointed away and hopefully sloop the next turn. It's all about range control, really.

On 6/2/2018 at 6:18 PM, gennataos said:

How convenient! I just got back from vacation!

I've both tried and seen games with tanky Rey (C-3P0, evade title) and find it like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Sure, it increases her survivability, but at the cost of her damage output, which is kind of what Rey does.

Poetensity is great, but he's plain harder to fly and keep alive than Poptics when faced with anything moving after him, which is most every ace against a Rey/Poetensity list due to points remaining for a bid (re:none).

I've spent a decent amount of time running Rey/Poe in just about every (reasonable) configuration you can mash together, and have found this to be the best. I'd love to have Engine on her, but she needs Expertise more than Engine and Poe needs high PS and the title more than Rey needs Engine. Here are a couple recommendations on how to setup/fly, there are really just basic "duh" suggestions for the two ships:

  • Debris, no rocks
  • Look for opportunities for Poe to make use of the Kanan ability, even when YOLOing over debris
  • Just because you brought BB-8, doesn't mean you have to use him every turn
  • Burnout SLAM is situational, but is great to get Rey IN the fight before your opponent expects it or just slamming into ships to avoid shots
  • Keep Poe on the perimeter, at range 3, as much as you can
  • Don't be afraid to run and reset
  • If Rey is unlikely to receive fire, target lock...don't just automatically take a focus. Ideally you take one on a ship you're NOT planning to fire at which is in arc (to have for later), but it's also fine to take it against your primary target. It feels bad when you don't get to reroll that Finn die
  • Rey is going to get burned down most of the time, it's expected. The hope is you've given Poe a chance to win
  • If Poe goes down first, there's a really good chance you've already lost
  • This doesn't handle a lot of the meta big hitters well...don't expect to win a lot of those

Rey (45)
Expertise (4)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Burnout SLAM (1)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 100

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I haven't had too much of a problem with 3PO Rey to get her ability off, but I'm so use to flying Han, that if I get her off a few times a game, I'm more than happy. I fly it more like a fat turret than a jouster. Poe has seemed to be my weak point, so I may try your PS11 BB8 Poe in that spot.

4 minutes ago, Tbetts94 said:

I haven't had too much of a problem with 3PO Rey to get her ability off, but I'm so use to flying Han, that if I get her off a few times a game, I'm more than happy. I fly it more like a fat turret than a jouster. Poe has seemed to be my weak point, so I may try your PS11 BB8 Poe in that spot.

Just keep him on the peripheral as much as possible. I'd rather plink away at range 3 with him than hammer at range 1 when i know he's getting hammered back. Like scum Fenn, range 2 is usually the saddest place for him.

@gennataos you aren't a penguin anymore!!!

22 minutes ago, Greebwahn said:

@gennataos you aren't a penguin anymore!!!

Hah, yeah. Was messing around with the avatars, which don’t display for some reason. Not sure how to get back to the penguin!