26 minutes ago, StriderZessei said:Anyone else bothered by the E-Wing's anti- synergy with their ability and their linked actions? You can TL after you boost, but you can't get it if you're too close.
Seems weird to me.
I see it more as an early-positioning tool. Boost and TL in the first round, outside of range 3, then when you are closer (after clearing stress), you can get a focus to boost damage potential.
1 hour ago, Hobojebus said:yeah because the disney version is doing so well....
10 years from now no one will remember what the mouse did but the EU will still be alive and well.
They tried to strike it down, it's stronger now than they could ever imagine.
I'll take Disney's fanfic over Lightwhips, the Borg, and 70 year old Boba Fett (who fell in the same hole 3 times mind you) being the galaxy's only hope to save us from evil Dr Who.
2 hours ago, StriderZessei said:Anyone else bothered by the E-Wing's anti- synergy with their ability and their linked actions? You can TL after you boost, but you can't get it if you're too close.
Seems weird to me.
It'll be the way to stop Corran becoming too strong he wants to ensure your in that bullseye arc at step 0 but doing so may cost you that chance at a modification.
2 hours ago, StriderZessei said:Anyone else bothered by the E-Wing's anti- synergy with their ability and their linked actions? You can TL after you boost, but you can't get it if you're too close.
Seems weird to me.
My read is it's for when you're fleeing an engagement.
1 hour ago, dtenchi said:My read is it's for when you're fleeing an engagement.
^This
Also range 2+ only lock isn't a big deal. Should still easily be able to boost/roll into lock and shots
4 hours ago, StriderZessei said:Anyone else bothered by the E-Wing's anti- synergy with their ability and their linked actions? You can TL after you boost, but you can't get it if you're too close.
Seems weird to me.
Nope, you’re the only one. I do, however, find it odd that the Ewing gets an ability like this while the Punisher gets nothing.
Be glad he even exists.
Pray they don't alter the deal any further.
4 hours ago, StriderZessei said:Anyone else bothered by the E-Wing's anti- synergy with their ability and their linked actions? You can TL after you boost, but you can't get it if you're too close.
Seems weird to me.
It bothered me at first, but I like that you can boost or barrel roll on turn 1 to set up for the next engagement and still get to have your turn 1 target lock.
It does really suck for Corran though, means he can't arc-dodge someone by boosting out of their arc into range 1 and still get to mod his dice, but he will basically have FCS stapled onto him anyway like he did in 1.0.
5 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:Everybody and his dog was a force user in the old EU, we don't need that nonsense in X-Wing.
People spout this a lot, but by the time of the NJO, there were only around a hundred or so Jedi. Besides the Solo/Skywalker family, we have Corran and Kyle Katan as protagonists that were Force-sensitive, and a few non-Jedi supporting characters. Who else was so damningly Force-sensitive?
1 hour ago, Alpha17 said:People spout this a lot, but by the time of the NJO, there were only around a hundred or so Jedi.
What is this NJO of which you speak?
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Corran Horn is one of the EU characters who is better without the Jedi-wannabe wish-fulfillment that so many EU characters seem to fall victim to. What's wrong with merely having competence as your superpower?
3 hours ago, skotothalamos said:Be glad he even exists.
Pray they don't alter the deal any further.
I see what you did there, well played, well played.
The mouse sees: 1) the movies as absolute concrete cannot reduce abilities cannon; 2) their cartoons as just almost like the movies and must follow cannon, and sees 3) the books, comics, games, campfire stories as take it if it makes $$ or leave it, no biggie at all.
Corran is squarely in the 3rd. He’s no Jedi in their eyes.
Maarek Stele was also force sensitive.
15 hours ago, Hawkstrike said:What is this NJO of which you speak?
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Corran Horn is one of the EU characters who is better without the Jedi-wannabe wish-fulfillment that so many EU characters seem to fall victim to. What's wrong with merely having competence as your superpower?
On the off-hand chance you're being serious, The New Jedi Order series. They repeatedly say that Luke's Jedi Order amounts to about 100 members by the 25 ABY mark.
Again, how many characters are Jedi-wannabe wish fulfillment? There are a few scattered, but it's hardly a large number. For every Corran, Kyle Katarn or Maarak Steele, there's a Wedge, Fel, Han, Lando, Karrde, Fett, etc.
14 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:On the off-hand chance you're being serious, The New Jedi Order series. They repeatedly say that Luke's Jedi Order amounts to about 100 members by the 25 ABY mark.
Never happened. I hear it's a myth.
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Oh, sure, there are lots of secondary characters who are not Jedi-wannabes. But it seems like a disproportionate number of main characters in the EU are, especially those that are part of an ongoing series. We have this infinite,complex universe, and every third person we bump into is a Force-user of some sort.
3 minutes ago, Hawkstrike said:Never happened. I hear it's a myth.
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Oh, sure, there are lots of secondary characters who are not Jedi-wannabes. But it seems like a disproportionate number of main characters in the EU are, especially those that are part of an ongoing series. We have this infinite,complex universe, and every third person we bump into is a Force-user of some sort.
A Legend you might say? Well, in every Legend there is an element of fact....
A decent percentage were, sure. But that's how it should be, especially going off of how vague the Jedi were defined in the OT, and how most stories were about them. Since the Jedi/Force users were the driving force (hehe, puns) behind the OT, it makes sense that the EU would follow suit in some ways. It's not like Disney has done much better, other than choosing to leave out the extra Force users in favor of giving Rey and Kylo stupid amounts of importance.
14 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:It's not like Disney has done much better, other than choosing to leave out the extra Force users in favor of giving Rey and Kylo stupid amounts of importance.
Quoted for truth. Note to Disney: fewer, more powerful Mary Sues is *not* the way to develop the franchise.
Heck, I love the idea of Rey as a character, and am fine with her as a Force sensitive, but going from the equivalent of nobody to a Jedi Master in a movie and a half was just too much. We could make the same argument about Luke, but I think in the end his character arc proves he's not really very competent, which makes sense given that his Jedi training was a couple of minutes swinging a lightsaber in the Falcon plus a bunch of running through a swamp with a muppet on his back.
I'm surprised they resisted the urge to make Jyn Erso Force-sensitive, but maybe the figured they could get away with it since they were killing her off. Had there been a sequel, I'm sure she would have been a closet Jedi.
2 hours ago, Alpha17 said:On the off-hand chance you're being serious, The New Jedi Order series. They repeatedly say that Luke's Jedi Order amounts to about 100 members by the 25 ABY mark.
Again, how many characters are Jedi-wannabe wish fulfillment? There are a few scattered, but it's hardly a large number. For every Corran, Kyle Katarn or Maarak Steele, there's a Wedge, Fel, Han, Lando, Karrde, Fett, etc.
Iirc, Han and Wedge were Force sensitive but never trained in the eu.
On 5/24/2018 at 7:22 PM, emmjay said:Correct me if I'm wrong but Corran Horn was force sensitive, and even became a Jedi. Why doesn't he have any force powers in 2E?
It's pretty much a miracle he exists in 2.0 at all. Characters like he and Dash were added into X-Wing before Disney had taken over and introduced the whole "LEGENDS" notion.
Jedi Corran Horn does not exist anymore.
3 hours ago, Alpha17 said:Again, how many characters are Jedi-wannabe wish fulfillment? There are a few scattered, but it's hardly a large number. For every Corran, Kyle Katarn or Maarak Steele, there's a Wedge, Fel, Han, Lando, Karrde, Fett, etc.
I'd say that, almost ironically, it's worse now in the Nu-Canon than it was in Legends. Disney's been at the helm for a brief while, and already in a show like
Rebels
we've got no fewer than about 25% of the "heroes" being bona-fide Jedi or Jedi-comparable Force Users (Ezra, Kanan, Ahsoka, Maul), with the villains ranks being flushed out with Inquisitors, all while Force-Attuned creatures fill in the backdrops (Purrgil, Lothal Wolves, that Bandu thing).
People liked to complain about how "Force saturated" the EU Legends were, but really per capita Disney's
Rebels
felt far more saturated.
3 minutes ago, ScottieATF said:Jedi Corran Horn does not exist anymore.
Oh, is pre-training Corran Horn confirmed in canon? What source? I must confess I do not keep up with the Nu-Canon EU at all.
15 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:Oh, is pre-training Corran Horn confirmed in canon? What source? I must confess I do not keep up with the Nu-Canon EU at all.
He doesn't exist at all as far as the new canon is concerned. His existence in X-wing 2.0 is his only non-Legends reference that I'm aware of. So we're looking at the source
3 hours ago, Nyxen said:Iirc, Han and Wedge were Force sensitive but never trained in the eu.
Not in any source I'm aware of. In fact, Wedge's lack of response to a "Force testing" device (and a mind probe) is used as evidence for them being useful in telling "those with potential " from those without.
19 minutes ago, Panzeh said:The old EU is trash and the people who champion it are similar.
You're wrong. It had its flaws but there is a reason it was so beloved.
3 minutes ago, Zura said:You're wrong. It had its flaws but there is a reason it was so beloved.
If we are being fair, it had some excellent settings, characters, and stories just as it also had some awful settings, characters, and stories. The beauty of it was that it was so wide and expansive that people could easily cherry-pick the stuff they did enjoy about the EU and focus on that while ignoring the stuff they didn't like.