33 minutes ago, Firespray-32 said:

"Winning side"? Winning side of what?

Of ruining the fandom?

13 minutes ago, eMeM said:

Nobody cares about RT scores, otherwise Rian would be long gone.

On the other hand what does matter is voting with your wallet. I didn't expect this to actually work, but it seems like I underestimated people's hate towards TLJ.

Boyoctting is just not seeing the movie, people are absolutely entitled to do that.

I will never forget the pure vitriol focused on a child. Jake Lloyd deserved none of the hate spewed at him.

I remember growing up being so enthusiastic for the prequels only to be crapped on by adult fans as a tween.

Honestly I enjoyed Star Wars more when I wasn't involved in the fandom.

It's alright to dislike something, it's alright to not go to a movie. But there is no boycott. Solo has nothing to do with TLJ. No one's civil rights are being infringed.

People like Hobo are going above and beyond to try and destroy something others might enjoy. That is a tantrum.

I have friends who are big fans who wouldn't go to Solo because of the low scores on RT and IMDB. Not until I told them its pretty good did they go.

1 minute ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Of ruining the fandom?

I truly don't understand what you're getting at here.

3 minutes ago, Firespray-32 said:

I truly don't understand what you're getting at here.

The above post from @Forresto explains somewhat. I've found, as of late, that many of the “fans” are exhibiting some very bad qualities, being verbally and literally abusive to those that disagree with them, being extremely sexist, racist and quite contemptable. There seems a large number, at least they make it seem so, don't actually like anything.

Of course, that in and of itself is fine, but comments that declare being in the winning side is arrogance.

Really, we should all be on the winning side - we are getting more Star Wars. With all the media coming out there will be things you like and things you don't. Personally, I think Knights of the Old Republic is one of the worst games ever made, even moreso than the current EA fare, but if they make another game lots of people will be happy. There will be hits or misses in the fiction. I am perfectly happy to Trade the old Thrawn books with their Luuke warm story, for the likes of Lost Stars.

I get not enjoying the new movies; many of us grew up reading the old stories. The new movies have stumbled in some areas, but I found as I've gotten older, the old books don't resonate with me, while the new books do. The new movies do as well. There is one thing that makes The Force Awakens the best Star Wars movie ever. It was the first movie I took my son to. He sat there enthralled, loving it all, squee’ing in delight. That is what the new films mean to me.

My childhood memories of Star Wars can't be ruined by the new movies, any more than the prequels ruined it (they didn't) but the pure hate and vitriol directed at fans of the new could ruin my sons enjoyment, and that makes me sad. I see Star Wars now as not only being MINE based on my old memories, but being OURS as I watch my son, and my friends’ DAUGHTERS, make their memories.

24 minutes ago, Forresto said:

I will never forget the pure vitriol focused on a child. Jake Lloyd deserved none of the hate spewed at him.

I remember growing up being so enthusiastic for the prequels only to be crapped on by adult fans as a tween.

Honestly I enjoyed Star Wars more when I wasn't involved in the fandom.

It's alright to dislike something, it's alright to not go to a movie. But there is no boycott. Solo has nothing to do with TLJ. No one's civil rights are being infringed. 

Rian is not an innocent kid, people can criticise movies if they don't like them.

Solo has everything to do with TLJ because money is the only way to get Disney's attention.

To be clear I don't support this boycott, because there is a risk of reading the message wrong and axing anthologies if Disney is stupid, but I respect the determination.

Of course I don't support nor respect review bombing by people who didn't see the movie, and people like Hobo going on forums and spreading toxicitiy.

Yea Hobo once compared me to Hitler because I love the prequels.

Meanwhile, Solo´s IMDb score reached 7.1... (was below 5 before the movie release)

1 hour ago, Kieransi said:

I totally inderstand not liking individual movies. I absolutely don't understand writing off the entire series but still claiming to be a Star Wars fan and going on a Star Wars miniatures forum to ruin the joy for others. The FFG mods probably need to be less timid about banning people.

Nah i hope nobody reports people for attacking me, i just wish the replies were based on facts and figures instead of feelings.

Domestic total for today is 35 million, 3 days in.

2 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

Soooo... how is the coaxium normally refined if it;s impossible to get it to the nearest refinery without flying through the maelstrom and nearly dying o_O

1 hour ago, ScottieATF said:

The addressed it in citing it's the only refinery not within Imperial jurisdiction that could be reached in time.

I assume commercial/imperial fuel transports have a way of keeping the raw coaxium under stable conditions. It's just the underfloor smuggling compartments on the Falcon aren't exactly designed for temperature or movement sensitive cargo. Heck, an ISD is more than large enough to fit a small refinery on board.

Solo is a great "solo" movie, f--k the people the tickets were never been a good value for a movie, think about essai movies: usually pieces of art, unintelligible for a lot of people.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it".

So who cares about values? They said that TLJ was a great movie, so... who cares if not yourself?

2 hours ago, Forresto said:

I will never forget the pure vitriol focused on a child. Jake Lloyd deserved none of the hate spewed at him.

I remember growing up being so enthusiastic for the prequels only to be crapped on by adult fans as a tween.

Honestly I enjoyed Star Wars more when I wasn't involved in the fandom.

It's alright to dislike something, it's alright to not go to a movie. But there is no boycott. Solo has nothing to do with TLJ. No one's civil rights are being infringed.

People like Hobo are going above and beyond to try and destroy something others might enjoy. That is a tantrum.

I have friends who are big fans who wouldn't go to Solo because of the low scores on RT and IMDB. Not until I told them its pretty good did they go.

This. Exactly. God, I really hate Star Wars fans as a group. At least, these vocal ones who say everything ever is terrible.

Jake Lloyd's life was destroyed by that fallout. Everybody needs to remember that.

1 hour ago, markcsoul said:

Yea Hobo once compared me to Hitler because I love the prequels.

He does that. He doesn't actually know how to argue.

3 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

Why would I have any anger when I'm on the winning side? Once we do the same with episode 9 there's no way Kennedy keeps her job or that rian gets his trilogy, our plucky rebellion just blew up the first death star.

And rotten tomatoes does not use scores under 1.5 stars i.e. The protest scores so they are not skewing anything, i f they did include those tlj would of been 24 % the excuse for trolls destroying the score did not hold water then and it does not now.

you are arguing emotions and feelings, I'm stating facts with sources others have confirmed.

I take no online polls seriously. Positively or negatively. Because once someone can vote more than once, the results are irrevelent.

As for Kennedy losing her job, you may want to look her up again. Frankly, she is more likely to replace Iger than she is to be fired.

Anyway, enjoy not enjoying Star Wars. I am personally hyped for Mangold making a bounty hunter movie.

And for an extra trigger, I like TPM more than ANH.

Did anyone else notice a recycled shot at the beginning of the movie? I'll have to verify with another viewing, but I swear the ships flying over and away from the space port on Corellia were at the same points in the sky in two different shots.

3 hours ago, Firespray-32 said:

"Winning side"? Winning side of what?

I think that was an autocorrect error. It should have said "whining".

19 minutes ago, Sithborg said:

I take no online polls seriously. Positively or negatively. Because once someone can vote more than once, the results are irrevelent.

As for Kennedy losing her job, you may want to look her up again. Frankly, she is more likely to replace Iger than she is to be fired.

Anyway, enjoy not enjoying Star Wars. I am personally hyped for Mangold making a bounty hunter movie.

And for an extra trigger, I like TPM more than ANH.

I'd buy you like six beers. Say you're in Illinois right?

Make that, "I will buy you like six beers, sometime".

3 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

I think that was an autocorrect error. It should have said "whining".

Hahahaha.

2 minutes ago, jmswood said:

Did anyone else notice a recycled shot at the beginning of the movie? I'll have to verify with another viewing, but I swear the ships flying over and away from the space port on Corellia were at the same points in the sky in two different shots.

The Gozanti/C-ROC landing? Yeah, I noticed that too. Not sure if it was recycled/continuity error or a continuation of the previous scene, I'd have to watch again to check.

And I do plan on watching again!

16 minutes ago, jmswood said:

Did anyone else notice a recycled shot at the beginning of the movie? I'll have to verify with another viewing, but I swear the ships flying over and away from the space port on Corellia were at the same points in the sky in two different shots.

Not the first time. Look back at ANH. R5D4 blows his motivator. A later shot is back at R2 and R5D4 is there and its the same shot from a couple of minutes ago.

On 5/25/2018 at 8:57 AM, Sasajak said:

This film has changed what the Star Wars universe means to me. It is a much darker and depressing galaxy than I ever imagined - poverty, slavery, oppression in abundance. What gets me is these things seem deeply grained and haven’t happened since the rise of the Empire. So what were the Jedi or Republic doing for 1,000 years? Quite why the Rebellion formed with the aim of restoring the Republic is now beyond me. It appears it was just a less bad Empire for the masses - is the Alliance based on proganda and lies? This film had no “hope” in it and left me feeling depressed. Maybe that was the point? Or maybe I’m too idealistic?

It's the same galaxy shown in the prequels, the same shown during the WEG developing days of legends. It's very star wars and indeed a rather depressing galaxy, especially in contest that energy is avaible in abundance, but is controlled by the rich, while the populations of million of planets don't even have enough food.

Wonder of what this reminds me? ?

On 5/25/2018 at 8:12 PM, eMeM said:

bull. If the planet's government doesn't want to join the Republic, the Republic doesn't have any way of enforcing its laws there. Unlike the Empire, the Republic didn't go around conquering planets.

Unless those planets are former members of the republic. right? ?

I liked it.

I liked that most throwbacks were not shoehorned in like R1.

I liked they didn't just ignore all previous canon like TLJ.

I like that it easn't just a rehash like TFA.

I liked that it easn't an awful film like AotC.

I liked that Han and Lando were like how we have always known them.

Delighted that terrible actress Emilia Clarke was actually good, and Woody and Paul did great jobs as well.

I liked the Back to the Future reference.

The humour was funny and it was only used when humour fitted the scene.

My only gripes were unecessary lightsaber, the beginning was a bit meh, and L3-37 didn't work as a character in most scenes.

7/10

4 hours ago, markcsoul said:

Yea Hobo once compared me to Hitler because I love the prequels.

Yeah... But aren't you? Hitler loved the prequels.

2 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

He does that. He doesn't actually know how to argue.

Ehm. Well this is awkward.

Solo.. was great.

Qira is bae. Landonis ❤️ is bae. Maul was delicious. Could use a bit more empire.

Loved the card game. Loved the references... I feel like they were done right in SW movie... For the first time ever.

I'd say a good 9.62/14 potatoes.

I'd like to counterpoint claims this movie was uneccesary.

Ben Solo is now the future of the Skywalker clan.

We know Leia's side.

We don't know Han's.

We needed this movie to help strengthen the inner turmoil of Ben being that he's the supreme villain now.

3 hours ago, jmswood said:

Did anyone else notice a recycled shot at the beginning of the movie? I'll have to verify with another viewing, but I swear the ships flying over and away from the space port on Corellia were at the same points in the sky in two different shots.

My theory is something to do with the post production this thing went through, so they may not have had enough content in editing. I obviously however, am no expert.

6 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

It was the first movie I took my son to. He sat there enthralled, loving it all, squee’ing in delight.

This - This right here - is why I will defend TFA to the end. Yes, it was similar to ANH. Yes, it was in many ways, a very "safe" movie. Yes, it isn't perfect. HOWEVER, it provides a great introduction to Star Wars and the Hype of a new movie coming out, instead of just viewing them at home and being told they are "really god movies". Something about a theater atmosphere makes it special to view a movie on release. For the record, I agree with most of your other points (other than KotOR being one of the worst games ever made, because the original X-wing games obviously fit there [please don't kill me]), I would gladly support 4-5 more movies I find okay, or mediocore for one more excellent movie, and the same goes for games. I would support 4-5 more stupid X-wing games for one more KotOR, because more Star Wars is good for every fan.

Just realized the Boba Fett movie needs to involve a job where IG-88, Bossk, Dengar, Zuckuss and 4-LOM are all hired separately to hit the same mark. Similar to how they were all hired by Vader to hunt down Han.

Maybe develop some rivalry between him and the other famous Bounty Hunters.

Plus we might get some on screen action from ships like The Hound's Tooth and the IG-2000.