Solo Discussion Thread [SPOILERS!]

By Forresto, in Star Wars: Armada

SPOILER THREAD

If you havent seen the film enter at ye own risk!

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Solo premieres tonight in the States.

Please keep the discussion respectful and civil. You can love the film you can hate the film, but don't attack eachother for opinions.

I really enjoyed the movie. Absolutely did not expect to. For context my pre-release excitement level was a 3/10 and if not for my friend scoring free tickets I had no plans to watch it opening weekend.

The story had me grinning from start to finish. There were a handful of things I would’ve done differently - opening seen with Lady Proxima, a few of L3’s jokes, origin of his last name - but that list is close to exhaustive.

Alden’s Harrison Ford impersonation wasn’t convincing but his portrayal of the character still captured the roguish charm and improvisational craziness that accompanies him.

Him meeting Chewie in the pit was great - watching him then speak Wookie was a good touch.

I loved that the train robbery was front loaded. Since it was heavily featured in the movie I assumed it was the finale. I definitely wondered where the film would go after that.

Lando was perfect - I would love a stand-alone movie featuring him with a Han and Chewie cameo. Khaleesi was good. Woody Harrelson was great. Paul Bettany was fantastic as the villain. Near the end the sheer volume of double crosses started to veer towards the absurd but it didn’t go too far. For my money this movie is the best of the Disney era films.

Also Gonk Droid Battlebots was awesome.

13 minutes ago, D.Erasmus said:

Alden’s Harrison Ford impersonation wasn’t convincing but his portrayal of the character still captured the roguish charm and improvisational craziness that accompanies him.

The only thing I'll say about this is that the director specifically said that Alden wasn't supposed to be doing an impersonation of Harrison.

3 hours ago, Indy_com said:

The only thing I'll say about this is that the director specifically said that Alden wasn't supposed to be doing an impersonation of Harrison.

That makes sense, he was portraying the character Han Solo rather than doing an imitation of the actor. I think he did a good job with the part ultimately. Portraying such an iconic character with a hard to please fanbase is an unenviable position to be in (money, fame, and lucrative opportunities aside) but he really made the most of it. Mad props to him.

Maul man! When I first heard rumors that he is in this I thought it was a really out of left field inclusion, but having just recalled what he did in Clone Wars where he successfully set up his own criminal empire, it made much more sense. Now I'm excited at the prospect of further exploring the crime syndicate wars in future SW flicks.

Also this has the obligatory lightsaber scene. Haha.....just when I thought I would actually not ever see a lightsaber ignited in a SW movie, the story throws one at me.

Also, Carida Imperial Academy is canon and Han was sent there. He got kicked out of flight school though.

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I was really looking forward to Solo myself, as I love Heist films and i love Star Wars, so i was a bit let down.

Maybe it's just from the end of the school year being nuts?

The Kessel Run was really poorly handled, i felt the "use the maguffin fuel to go faster!" Was a MAJOR letdown to what could have been an excellent show of Han's piloting talents (ok, not that navigating through the maelstrom was unimpressuve, but the hyperspace jump was supposed to be a big part of that to my impressions)

Liked how they handled yhe characters, was good to see some Imperial Army troopers, and all the nods to past works were great. Teras Kasi might have been my favorite.

Darth maul...wow, I couldn’t believe he made an appearance. The entire audience gasped when he appeared. Pretty good movie, loved the characters and the actors were all good.

I had very low expectations, but really enjoyed the film. Great acting, pacing, and story. I enjoyed watching Alden grow into Han Solo as the story progressed, as he matured from a boy to a man. Donald Glover was superb as Lando. I also really liked the Kessel Run; I like that they preserved, yet altered, the Maw from the Legends EU. And the whole theme of the film was an extension of Han's character development, as he learnt about trust and betrayal. Very well done.

I did have a few minor dislikes, however:

The transition from Mimban (swamp planet) to Vandor-1 (snow planet) was so quick and unmentioned that I thought they were just two regions on the same planet. (Mind you, I saw the midnight screening, so it was possible I was just too tired to pick it up). I thought this was a problem with Ron Howard's direction; he doesn't like to use wide shots or establishing shots between scenes. This was particularly bad in In the Heart of the Sea , which suffered from terrible cinematography.

Also didn't like Maul being there. I think the Clone Wars show resurrecting him was a cheap gimmick and I was dismayed to see this mistake find its way into the actual movies. Movie-going audiences will now be wanting to see him again on the big screen, and they're going to be disappointed to learn his death has already featured in Rebels.

I preferred the story of how Han met Chewie from Legends. Han is kicked out of the Empire because he freed a slave. It demonstrates his good character. In this movie, Han has already been kicked out, and essentially frees Chewie only because he wants to save his own life. Doesn't demonstrate his character in the same way. Having said that, I did enjoy the scene and the comedy of the situation.

Those are minor dislikes, however, and they didn't take away my unexpected joy or stupid smile that I wore for the entire film.

Random question for those of you in the US: were there a lot of people at your midnight screenings? I live in Western Australia and there were only about 80 people at my screening, whereas normally we have hundreds of people for a Star Wars premiere (and the cinema runs it across multiple screens simultaneously).

I live in Perth and the theatre was almost empty.

I don’t love this movie and I don’t hate it. I’ll see it again but I won’t go out of my way to do so.

There were some errors that I couldn’t ignore but on a whole it was OK.

However if I wanted to see this movie I could have just watched the train robbery and Niska episodes of Firefly. Watching the entire season of Firefly would be a better Solo experience.

Perth too. My cinema was about 75% full and I think there were only 2 or 3 screens showing it at Carousel

36 minutes ago, Handler said:

Perth too. My cinema was about 75% full and I think there were only 2 or 3 screens showing it at Carousel

Yeah, I was at Carousel too. 2-3 screens would normally bring in a huge crowd, but it felt empty.

I can't believe people enjoyed this movie. I just got out of it and thought it was garbage. I liked force awakens, and I forgive a lot of the bad in last jedi but jesus, this movie.

We weren't packed in my theater in the SF Bay area. I expected to be pleasantly surprised, and I was!

I think the movie lacked a, for the lack of a better term, "Pow!" moment to make it stand out like other films. In Rogue one it was the Scarif battle. In The Force Awakens, I'd say it was from Han getting stabbed to the lightsaber battle at the end. in TLJ, its the climax that starts with Kylo killing Snoke.

While the finale was good here, enough revelations were spaced out so that it didn't feel like a big moment. The closest we get is ultimately Q'ira taking the ship and flying away.

Still wish we could have had the Arrestor cruiser in there, I just wonder where it was supposed to be...

1 minute ago, Norsehound said:

Still wish we could have had the Arrestor cruiser in there, I just wonder where it was supposed to be...

This blew my mind. I fully support it not being there(aside from that **** poster) but ya, stupid ship got no screen time and that and maul are the only parts I liked.

there were 20ish people in my showing

Lol nm, thought that was something else. Nothing to see here, move along.

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Loved it. The movie is colorful and never seems to drag, it’s funny without trying painfully hard (*ahem*) and it all feels true to flavor. The only real downsides I noticed were 1. that it doesn’t feel like it has a truly gripping climax, and 2. hyperfuel . I am sick of this **** about fuel. It didn’t need to be there, except to justify a TLJ plot point. The best part, though, was all the references. So many beautiful references:

”The man who killed Aurra Sing.”

Teras kasi.

The Pykes.

The suits of Mandalorian armor in the background (and the Crystal Skull, and maybe a Sith holocron? Could that be the large triangular object?)

Mentions of Felucia, Mimban, Carida, Dathomir and of course the best planet, good old Glee Anselm. ?

Oh, and Maul. The audience went wild.

I just saw this morning,

My expectations were very low due to directors change in mid movie.

Yet it was a genuine Star Wars movie, the atmosphere the feel and everything, and it was fun to watch.

I agree with most of the negative things said about the movie but I liked the overall rhythm of the movie.

what were my wishes?

- Han and Chewie, original free the slave story would have been much better than bumping each other in the pits

- Han bumping into Qi'ra was not convincing, how small is the galaxy?

- I wish they did not show ISD in Kessel Run at the trailers, it really ruined the suprise and I wish ISD had more role in the chase apart from sending few Ties.

- Kessel Run was not impressive and I agree with people saying Han could have show more of its piloting skills just as Anakin's lack of use of Force at pod racing.

- Imperials were present but there were no imperial general, admiral , captain that was part of the chase ( it would add more personal tension when the ISD arrived to Kessel Run )

- why train robbery? I asked the same question at Firefly ( which I believe could be a Solo story ) where they were robbing trains. Scifi's mimic reality but it would have been better if they did not use such a direct object (train) from our reality. That goes same for speeders which look more and more like cars.

- i was very happy that the movie was tied to Rebellion at the end but it wouldnt hurt to see a familiar face or ship or transmission or some two droids make a cameo at the end of the movie.

- Han and Lando last game was a bit of rush, they could have waited for the Lando movie to actually swaps the ownership of the ship

Having said all if these I think they still made a good job at this movie, I always feel at home at movies/games/books close to OT and this movie was a good addition.

I liked the ending, how it was tied to the story we all know of. I liked the characters, scenery, vehicles ( especally shiny Falcon with full of capes) I would probably go again and I hope it will have a good box office.

However there is one issue that bothered me since the prequals which is timing. When I was a small kid, Empire was there for a long time but with prequals time frame shortened to 16 years which I felt was not realistic. This movie is supposively 10 years before BBY so it means 6 years after Empire is formed. So in 6 years they have managed to create ISDs, Ties, Storm Troopers new look snd etc, which I dont think is believable. If it was 30-40 years or even more I guess it would be better. So in this movie Han is about 19 years at the beginning of the movie and 22 in the second act. So he was 16 when the Empire was formed, when I first watched the OT I always assumed Han lived in the Empire all of his life long, well at the moment it doesnot change much but i just feel it is wrong.

Unfortunately this movie will not have any benefits for Armada as there were no fleet actions or new Cannon ships ( maybe a Dreadnoughty (EU) looking ship at some point, not sure), for X-Wing, I am sure new MF and Ties would be a good addition.

1 minute ago, LostFleet said:

Unfortunately this movie will not have any benefits for Armada as there were no fleet actions or new Cannon ships ( maybe a Dreadnoughty (EU) looking ship at some point, not sure), for X-Wing, I am sure new MF and Ties would be a good addition.

Arrestor Cruiser.

Didn't make the screen, but still canon.

(+ the weird looking CR-something from the poster.)

32 minutes ago, Indy_com said:

Arrestor Cruiser.

Didn't make the screen, but still canon.

(+ the weird looking CR-something from the poster.)

Yup it does look weird with all the dishes, thanks for the reference,

the one I mentioned, I dont know which part of the movie I saw but it was a bit bulkier, a good reason to see the movie second time :)

Overall, I enjoyed it, and I'm a very critical movie viewer.

I didnt like the train scene. It was everything I hate in modern action scenese: spastic camera views, way too much overly dramatic music, laughly stupid unplausible action and too much unconvincing CGI. I thought the movie was going to suck after this opening but it didn't.

Agree with others, Han acting was just ok, at least he didn't ruin the character. Glover was simply incredible. Spot on portrayal. Not sure why they didn't ant Han actor to mimic First. Glover nailed Billy D 100%.

I really liked L3. Seems like my favorite character in all of the new movies is a Droid. K2SO.

It's probably the weakest Star Wars movie of the Disney era, but it's still ok.

I loved L3 and Lando. They nailed it and were the most fun parts of the story. I'm not thrilled with Alden or Emilia as actors. The chemistry felt insanely forced/fake. I wish they took more time to build the emotions vs just make a heist film. I know where they end up, I just wanted more from it.

I definitely agree that this film had no *WOW* moment unlike RO or TLJ. That probably was the main reason I felt ho hum about it.

5 minutes ago, Stasy said:

I definitely agree that this film had no *WOW* moment unlike RO or TLJ. That probably was the main reason I felt ho hum about it.

When you think about it, every Star Wars movie has a moment like that... even the prequels. I struggle on 2, but that moment is probably either when the Republic drops in or the climactic fight between Anakin and Dooku.

If there's a same amount of tension, they just diffused it across more scenes. The betrayals don't come all at once so it's a longer "moment" with a lower tempo. Besides, not all of it comes as a surprise twist either. We're told not to trust Qi'ra all through the film- so the audience is given that expectation for the flip near the end. Same with Beckett- since he's telling us to trust no one, we're genre-savvy enough to immediately ask if we can trust him . As soon as Vos tells us there's another informant most of us realized it's Beckett that sold them out since Lando (the only other major character still left) isn't made into a villain here.

I didn't know that Maul would be making a cameo, so the surprise for me was that Maul was the true leader of the organization. I thought it was the Emperor at first. But even that impact is diluted because I'm enough of a Star Wars fan to know that Maul still lived after his bout in Episode 1. Post-movie reflection realizes... yeah... this is a ways before whatever happened to put him on Malachor.

All that said though, this isn't a bad film. This is a solid spotlight into the scummy underworld of the Star Wars universe that we've always circled around in the movies and TV shows, but never put to film. I think we might be expecting too much of Star Wars films to always be Big Climactic Shows... leading to greater disappointment when they make missteps and anger fans (Looking at the Prequels, the latest Last Jedi controversy). Sometimes we should be happy with a film that's just satisfying, and Solo is a solid entry into the star wars anthology films. I'd be thrilled to have another show with this same cast on the next adventure.

35 minutes ago, ianediger said:

It really blows my mind news agencies keep spoiling this. most people won't have even thought about getting tickets to this yet. not the only offender, I saw MSN post something similar too