9 minutes ago, Hobojebus said:

So your argument is i do need to hurt an animal to know for sure if i'd like it or not? ok, got it off to the pet store i go.

That's a false equivalency.

You know what'll happen when you hurt an animal. That's why you don't wanna do it.

On the other hand, you don't know what's in Solo. You are just afraid of what it might be.

Fear is the path to the dark side

1 hour ago, Commander Kaine said:

That's a false equivalency.

You know what'll happen when you hurt an animal. That's why you don't wanna do it.

On the other hand, you don't know what's in Solo. You are just afraid of what it might be.

Fear is the path to the dark side

It's the identical argument you can literally swap hurting animals with watching solo, it's called reductio ad absurdum, you take the argument to ridiculous extremes to prove it false.

I do know I would hate hurting an animal, just as I know I'd hate watching solo but the argument was without trying I could not know, which you yourself have acknowledged is false.

I actually know exactly what's solo I could describe who has freckles under what hood, who doublecrosses who, the exact circumstances of how Han wins the falcon, the fate of landos robot, all without seeing it.

15 hours ago, Animewarsdude said:

Is it Thor 1 and Thor 2 levels of forgettable? I have terribly low expectations of the film, but really hoping I'll be wrong and have a good time when I go see it tomorrow evening.

I've actually never seen the first Thor, but I thought Thor 2 was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. So Solo is much better than Thor 2.

Not sure if that was helpful.

4 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

That's a false equivalency.

You know what'll happen when you hurt an animal. That's why you don't wanna do it.

On the other hand, you don't know what's in Solo. You are just afraid of what it might be.

Fear is the path to the dark side

On top of that, you know you don't like *the thought* of hurting an animal. But, arguably, you don't know if you actually like or dislike hurting one if you've never done it. A philosophical conundrum, wrapped in an enigma, surrounded by a cloudy paradigm of mystery!

7 hours ago, MacchuWA said:

I mean, not to drag this thread too deep into the political mud, but the droid was played by a very white, very British woman.

I think you might have been seeing things that weren't neccesarily there from the creators' side.

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The actress voicing the droid is irrelevant. The L3's personality was very obviously modeled after the stereotypical "strong, independent black woman that don't need no man." The way she talked, walked, and acted were spot on. One of the guys I watched it with is on the opposite end of the political spectrum from me, and he agreed that's what they were going for, so it's not purely a political based observation.

If its an accident, it's like saying the Imperials only accidentally look and act like Nazis.

22 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

The actress voicing the droid is irrelevant. The L3's personality was very obviously modeled after the stereotypical "strong, independent black woman that don't need no man." The way she talked, walked, and acted were spot on.

I did not get that at all from the droid's character.

5 minutes ago, PanchoX1 said:

I did not get that at all from the droid's character.

Hmm. I thought it seemed obvious. Guess others' mileage may vary.

14 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

Hmm. I thought it seemed obvious. Guess others' mileage may vary.

had a SJW attitude toward droid rights, but that was about it. Certainly didn't come across as a black woman. in fact, I thought the character was voiced by Gwendoline Christie at first. The friends I saw it with thought the same thing.

Great fun.. And there is a Bothan! ..

3 hours ago, PanchoX1 said:

had a SJW attitude toward droid rights, but that was about it. Certainly didn't come across as a black woman. in fact, I thought the character was voiced by Gwendoline Christie at first. The friends I saw it with thought the same thing.

And the droid rights thing isn’t new either. IG-88 basically followed the idea, and I think Poe, at least from what I’ve seen movie wise, treats BB-8 more like a friend then property. Just saying, it ain’t new. But I also haven’t watched the Solo yet so I don’t know where they went with it.

11 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

Audiance rating 57% on rotten tomatoes.

And I'm willing to be half the negative reviews are alt accounts of yours.

No one here is taking anything you have to say on this subject seriously mate. You're chucking an immature rant, about a film, where enjoyment is purely subjective. All the while while throwing out logical fallacies to justify your position.

Take it elsewhere.

Ignore function is like your own personal desalination plant for the forums

Can we get a Dr. Pepper spin-off movie?

What about that movie is offensive, racist, or discriminatory?

One droid screaming for droids rights and getting eye rolled by everyone else?

You're joking right?

Box office is full-on crashing now. By contrast to the $32m on Friday ($14m of which was actually Thursday), TFA opened to $119m, TLJ $105m, Rogue One $71m.

Not suprised Solo isn't doing well, the marketing was just bad. Literaly no hype for this movie. Add to that the ridiculous boycott 'movement' (when the head of you 'movement' is some weak Tai Lopez ripoff you should reevaluate your life choices that lead to this point) and yeah, the movies quality is kind of irrelevant at this point, too few people care. I'll go see it soon-ish, but I'm not rushing to do so. I'm curious to see how it turns out, kind of refreshing to go into a movie expecting nothing.

1 hour ago, SOTL said:

Box office is full-on crashing now. By contrast to the $32m on Friday ($14m of which was actually Thursday), TFA opened to $119m, TLJ $105m, Rogue One $71m.

Looks like the sub 100 million prediction will prove true for opening weekend.

I'm reading the audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. The audience score is being weighed down by people who refuse to even see the movie. So it's essentially getting bad reviews from people who haven't even "viewed" it. lol whaaaaat?

1 minute ago, Ambigatos said:

I'm reading the audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. The audience score is being weighed down by people who refuse to even see the movie. So it's essentially getting bad reviews from people who haven't even "viewed" it. That sucks.

That really does suck, because it's fantastic. But fans like...

1 hour ago, Hobojebus said:

Looks like the sub 100 million prediction will prove true for opening weekend.

This guy

Are toxic for the entire franchise.

1 minute ago, Captain Lackwit said:

That really does suck, because it's fantastic.

Good to hear. I will be seeing it Sunday regardless of the naysayers.

1 minute ago, Ambigatos said:

Good to hear. I will be seeing it Sunday regardless of the naysayers.

Equally glad to hear! I went in expecting nothing but an average film that did nothing impressive.

But dammit, I really actually like Alden Erenreich's performance. I especially love Glover's, and there wasn't one character I actually actively disliked!

Perhaps it's not Solo's fault, but the audience is getting burnt out on Star Wars?
There used to be like 3 years between OT movies, the same for the PT movies.
There was a 16 years drought of Star Wars between ROTJ and TPM.
10 Years between ROTS and TFA.
Now we get a Star Wars movie every year. Sometimes even just few months apart like between TLJ and Solo.

If that is not enough, in between we are given cartoon series, shorts, tons of books, and all of that is intertwined in a single continuum narrative, more or less.

I think the fans are getting burnt out, and the general audience is totally oversaturated.
I know there are even more Marvel movies, but, I don't know. Maybe they have more varied characters.

Sometimes too much of a good thing can be bad.

22 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

Audiance rating 57% on rotten tomatoes.

Have you read them? A good portion of them are coming from people who admit they won't even go see it. That's not a review. It's being weighed down by haters with literally no basis to substantiate that it's bad lol.


"First Star Wars movie I am happy to skip."

Not an actual review of the movie

"Will not give Disney my money after the abomination that is TLJ"

Not an actual review of the movie

"not going to support Kathleen Kennedy's trash agenda with my $$"

Not an actual review of the movie


etc.
etc.
etc.

24 minutes ago, Ambigatos said:

Good to hear. I will be seeing it Sunday regardless of the naysayers.

Are there any naysayers? I've not seen anybody say it's bad.

Ah, review-bombing, the mature way to voice your opinion...