Solo movie talk (No spoilers)

By MacchuWA, in X-Wing Off-Topic

16 minutes ago, TheVeteranSergeant said:

I saw it last week. I enjoyed it. It's campy and fun in the way you'd want a summer action movie to be. Definitely way better than the trailers led me to expect.

I'd put it below Rogue One, but it does capture that "Star Wars feel" in its look and tone. The humor seems more organic. Nearly all the jokes in The Last Jedi felt flat and out of place. That isn't a problem in Solo. Donald Glover is great as Lando, but his sidekick is every bit as obnoxious as her name is (fortunately she doesn't have a lot of screen time). Alden Ehrenreich is a decent Han Solo. I think he got a fair amount of the mannerisms right, and the story makes Han Solo feel like Han Solo (though I couldn't help but notice that Ehrenreich is quite a bit shorter than Harrison Ford). Woody Harrelson is good, and I liked his crew. Emilia Clarke's acting is exactly what you expect it to be.

That said, while it is fun, the reviews saying it isn't memorable are spot on. I don't know if there is even one scene in Solo that will stick with anyone. No really memorable characters. No great bits of dialog. No amazing action sequences. No good battles. I mean, it has all those things. Dialog, action, battles, etc. It's just that they're not going to stick with anybody. You'll enjoy Solo. You'll like most of the characters. Unless one of the plot twists in the third act makes you mad, you will probably not care much about the story. Who is Han Solo? Turns out the answer isn't all that interesting.

In the end its just a movie that entertained you. There's too much need for every movie to be world changing anyway. If Solo has brought back a bit of fun to the franchise, then it will have achieved its aim.

Is there a need for it? You can ask the same of any origin story film. The first Cap America movie, Thor etc were not particularly memorable to me and I didn't need them. But they were OK and entertained for a couple of hours though, right?

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50 minutes ago, eMeM said:

Do you have any figures? Number I've seen thrown around the web yesterday were predicting decent sales, comparable to the last two movies.

r/boxoffice will keep you updated with the weekends drama.

1 hour ago, Gallanteer said:

As a SW fan, regardless of your thoughts on Kennedy or TLJ, is it right to constantly talk down the movies and even call it the incorrect name?

If the movie fails there may be no more after ep9. Do you really want that?

Solo is exactly the film we need right now, a light hearted swashbuckling romp in the SW universe which might recapture the original trilogy.

This movie is offensive it's not made for fans it's made to push an agenda that's at its heart discriminatory and racist.

Given the poor quality of Disney movies star wars dying would be a mercy, but it still owes Disney billions so it's going no where.

If it was the movie we need it wouldn't be failing, only plus side is this may finally get Kennedy axed and someone competent in charge.

8 minutes ago, Hobojebus said:

This movie is offensive it's not made for fans it's made to push an agenda that's at its heart discriminatory and racist.

Given the poor quality of Disney movies star wars dying would be a mercy, but it still owes Disney billions so it's going no where.

If it was the movie we need it wouldn't be failing, only plus side is this may finally get Kennedy axed and someone competent in charge.

So you've seen it then, or are you just a negative bandwaggoner?

Offensive? Its just a movie. However, if it offends you, just don't go and see it. Simple.

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19 minutes ago, SOTL said:

r/boxoffice will keep you updated with the weekends drama.

It's sad, this movie doesn't deserve to flop, especially seeing that it's likely to be caused by the bad reception of TLJ.

Just got to the theater 30 min before show time. We were running late and was worried about getting a seat. Nobody here. I was the second person into the theater. The power of the Johnson! Excited though1

5 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

Soylo already a flop in china it's only made 0.12 million on opening night

for comparison the other movies did the following:

TFA 16m

rogue one 3.7m

TLJ 3.5m

estimated total nation wide 10 million before it's taken off rotation next week.

Its 0907am on the 25th of May and Im in Beijing now. The film only releases today. Star Wars doesn't have the same cultural cache that it does back home. Its actually not that surprising at all that its not done huge business right out of the gate.

But... you've t a bee in your bonnet about the state of SW these days, so nothing anyone says will convince you otherwise.

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After Rogue One failed in China despite starring 2 of the biggest Chinese actors in the business I knew Star Wars was never gonna take off there, so SW flopping in China is kind of a given at this point.

Here in South East Asia, on the other hand, we love SW but the marketing push for Solo has been considerably minimal compared to the previous films. A lot of people outside of the fanbase aren't even aware it's coming out. Also being in close proximity to the giant that is Infinity War doesn't help, which is still drawing in most of the movie going crowd.

Having said that I think Solo is a very enjoyable movie. Han, Chewie and Lando were great. The rest of the cast were decent to good. L3 not as annoying as I was expected here to be. Her personal agenda is a bit of an eye-roll but it doesn't become grating. Just like Rogue One, Solo is similarly made for the fans; the biggest plot reveal at the end of the movie only works if you've been keeping up with the tv series and published canon material.

Story overall is pretty simple and straightforward, which I think is a good thing as this acts a good palate cleanser after the heaviness (and divisiveness) of TLJ. Already I have a few friends who hated TLJ say that they like Solo so much more. It just meets all their expectations of a Star Wars movie.

So for those who are on the fence about this, I recommend just going out to watch this. You might end up liking it:)

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I really enjoyed it, and I admit I'm enjoying the Disney material more than the old EU (expanded universe)

Now, this was not a perfect movie. There were a couple plot points concerning Enfys Nest that I wasn't thrilled with.

Loved the aliens.. Lady Proxima, I wonder if she is what were known as priapulan in the EU.

Having the Pyke synducate mentioned, with said pyke overseer makes me happy.

Lando was awesome - especially the clothes. I liked the New TIE Heavy and look forward to that in X-wing 2.0.

Vertical oriented ships are awesome.

All in all, this was a good popcorn flick. Non force using characters can support a story in Star Wars, and that I hope to see more of. My biggest gripe, is the Enfys nest connection, and that this movie wasn't all new characters - a heist movie set in the star wars universe with new characters would be fun. Solo works well at this and I got my money worth.

2 hours ago, drail14me said:

Just got to the theater 30 min before show time. We were running late and was worried about getting a seat. Nobody here. I was the second person into the theater. The power of the Johnson! Excited though1

I’m an OT fan. I hated the Prequils, TFA mostly sucked, Rogue One grew on me but hated it the first night and TLJ was abismal. Tonight, I left the theater for the first time since 1983 happy after a Star Wars movie.

4 hours ago, TheVeteranSergeant said:

I saw it last week. I enjoyed it. It's campy and fun in the way you'd want a summer action movie to be. Definitely way better than the trailers led me to expect.

I'd put it below Rogue One, but it does capture that "Star Wars feel" in its look and tone. The humor seems more organic. Nearly all the jokes in The Last Jedi felt flat and out of place. That isn't a problem in Solo. Donald Glover is great as Lando, but his sidekick is every bit as obnoxious as her name is (fortunately she doesn't have a lot of screen time). Alden Ehrenreich is a decent Han Solo. I think he got a fair amount of the mannerisms right, and the story makes Han Solo feel like Han Solo (though I couldn't help but notice that Ehrenreich is quite a bit shorter than Harrison Ford). Woody Harrelson is good, and I liked his crew. Emilia Clarke's acting is exactly what you expect it to be.

That said, while it is fun, the reviews saying it isn't memorable are spot on. I don't know if there is even one scene in Solo that will stick with anyone. No really memorable characters. No great bits of dialog. No amazing action sequences. No good battles. I mean, it has all those things. Dialog, action, battles, etc. It's just that they're not going to stick with anybody. You'll enjoy Solo. You'll like most of the characters. Unless one of the plot twists in the third act makes you mad, you will probably not care much about the story. Who is Han Solo? Turns out the answer isn't all that interesting.

Is it Thor 1 and Thor 2 levels of forgettable? I have terribly low expectations of the film, but really hoping I'll be wrong and have a good time when I go see it tomorrow evening.

3 hours ago, Gallanteer said:

In the end its just a movie that entertained you. There's too much need for every movie to be world changing anyway. If Solo has brought back a bit of fun to the franchise, then it will have achieved its aim.

Is there a need for it? You can ask the same of any origin story film. The first Cap America movie, Thor etc were not particularly memorable to me and I didn't need them. But they were OK and entertained for a couple of hours though, right?

Eh, I think the first Cap was memorable enough, loved the campy Cap bit, as well as all the stuff leading up to him getting the super serum. Then again, aside from the Cap and Carter bits bits most of it is forgettable. Cap probably has the three strongest individual films, though it could be argued that Civil War is more an Avengers film than a Cap film. Thor on the other hand is yea pretty forgettable aside from the third one.

4 hours ago, TheVeteranSergeant said:

I don't know if there is even one scene in Solo that will stick with anyone.

Right off the bat I have two favorite scenes. I loved the early battle field scene when Han was in the Imperial Navy and the AT-ST’s were being dropped off. Way cool! Also, the scene in the Maw with the Star Destroyer and tie chase. Loved the soundtrack during that scene and the throwback to the Death Star escape.

20 minutes ago, drail14me said:

Right off the bat I have two favorite scenes. I loved the early battle field scene when Han was in the Imperial Navy and the AT-ST’s were being dropped off. Way cool! Also, the scene in the Maw with the Star Destroyer and tie chase. Loved the soundtrack during that scene and the throwback to the Death Star escape.

Same here!

4 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

This movie is offensive it's not made for fans it's made to push an agenda that's at its heart discriminatory and racist.

Given the poor quality of Disney movies star wars dying would be a mercy, but it still owes Disney billions so it's going no where.

If it was the movie we need it wouldn't be failing, only plus side is this may finally get Kennedy axed and someone competent in charge.

Oh wow, I had no idea. That's really interesting and concerning to me. Why did the movies offend you? I have really enjoyed every new Star Wars movie and think Solo will probably be no exception. I really don't want to support discriminatory, racist movies though! Anyway, I apologize that you are upset at the folks at Disney for the recent Star Wars movies. Please tell me more about why you feel this way, I think it might help everyone understand you better.

Ok, that was a darn good movie!

As I said in the other thread, the movie was boring. Not terrible, nowhere near the level of awful that TLJ was, but just "meh." Most of the characters were forgettable, the "plot" poorly paced, and the jokes forced and obvious at times. A little thought into about half the scenes leaves you wondering what the characters were thinking. L3 was an annoying attempt to have a droid be a stereotypical "independent black woman that don't need no man." Han was.... well, he was. Nothing special, but nothing bad. The good scenes were seeing Han try the crazy maneuvers we've always heard about, the droid uprising, and the cameo at the end was the only plot point I want to see continued.

12 hours ago, SOTL said:

r/boxoffice will keep you updated with the weekends drama.

Please don't.

38 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

As I said in the other thread, the movie was boring. Not terrible, nowhere near the level of awful that TLJ was, but just "meh." Most of the characters were forgettable, the "plot" poorly paced, and the jokes forced and obvious at times. A little thought into about half the scenes leaves you wondering what the characters were thinking. L3 was an annoying attempt to have a droid be a stereotypical "independent black woman that don't need no man." Han was.... well, he was. Nothing special, but nothing bad. The good scenes were seeing Han try the crazy maneuvers we've always heard about, the droid uprising, and the cameo at the end was the only plot point I want to see continued.

I mean, not to drag this thread too deep into the political mud, but the droid was played by a very white, very British woman.

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I think you might have been seeing things that weren't neccesarily there from the creators' side.

Audiance rating 57% on rotten tomatoes.

4 minutes ago, Hobojebus said:

Audiance rating 57% on rotten tomatoes.

That site means nothing to me. People rate on there without even seeing the movie.

I really liked this movie a lot.

13 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

This movie is offensive...

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...and how would you know? You haven't watched it.

16 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

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...and how would you know? You haven't watched it.

Well i haven't seen a serbiam film (DONT GOOGLE THIS) either but i'm pretty sure i wouldn't have a good time watching that.

I've never tried canibalism but i'm willing to pass on that experiance too.

I've never hurt an animal to cause it pain.

it is possible to know about something and decide it's not for you.

39 minutes ago, Hobojebus said:

Well i haven't seen a serbiam film (DONT GOOGLE THIS) either but i'm pretty sure i wouldn't have a good time watching that.

I've never tried canibalism but i'm willing to pass on that experiance too.

I've never hurt an animal to cause it pain.

it is possible to know about something and decide it's not for you.

So - just to clarify - none of your rants about the film are based on first hand knowledge or personal experience of watching it then? OK, got it.

25 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

So - just to clarify - none of your rants about the film are based on first hand knowledge or personal experience of watching it then? OK, got it.

So your argument is i do need to hurt an animal to know for sure if i'd like it or not? ok, got it off to the pet store i go.

4 minutes ago, Hobojebus said:

So your argument is i do need to hurt an animal to know for sure if i'd like it or not? ok, got it off to the pet store i go.

No, my argument is that you're throwing a Veruca Salt level entitled strop, each incremental post you make on the subject is supporting that hypothesis.