As the Force is becoming a new thing for 2.0 and there are plenty of "Force Sensitive" users out there, will all ships (without crew slots) be getting at least one pilot that can use the force to allow for balance?

I notice that Canor Jax is one looking at the list: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Force-sensitive_individuals_by_species

Maybe Zuckass will be one. Who else might be?

EDIT: I have seen in the Covenant play through that Zach chose Maarek Stele who makes the list but does not have a force icon.

Compiled list from Thread, will update as confirmed etc:

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Known:

Luke Pilot (2) Gunner (+1)

Darth Vader Pilot (3) Crew (+1)

Palpatine Crew (+1)

Grand Inquisitor Pilot (2) Crew (+1)

Ezra Bridger Pilot (1)

Maul Crew (+1)

Assaj Ventress Pilot (2)

Inquisitor Pilot (1)

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Suspected:

Ahsoka

Kanan

Kyle

Kylo

Rey

Snoke

Lol, no, it's absolutely not the case that all ships will get Force pilots.

I'd honestly be surprised if the number of force rated pilots AND crew totals more than 20 once all the conversion kits are out:

Luke (x2, possibly x3 - Pilot, Gunner, Crew)

Vader (x2 - pilot, crew)

Palpatine

Inq (x2)

7th Sister

Generic Inquisitor

Leia (probably only Res Leia)

Kylo (x2, possibly x3 - pilot, pilot, crew, but I'd assume that the Upsilon pilot probably won't be maintained)

Rey (x2 - pilot and crew)

Asajj

Maul

Aaaaand that's about it. We already know Corran doesn't have a Force rating, and nor do Gand Findsmen or Zuckuss crew, and even if Carnor and generic Royal Guard do that's not many more.

Force is *rare* and very, very costly, from everything we know so far, and seems likely to be given only to the very strongest Force users - heck, Palpatine only gets a Force rating of 1 for goodness' sake.

Awww that's a shame

Ahsoka, Ezra and/or Kanan crew and pilots are a possibility, too.

I would like to see Corran, Maarek and Carnor get the force, but that's not garuanteed.

However, don't forget that the new format of "name - subtitle" means the possibility exists for later versions of the same pilot. 'Maarek Stele - Servant of the Empire' (essentially from TIE Fighter mission 1) could later be supplemented with 'Maarek Stele - The Emperor's Hand' (secret mission completed!) with a force token or two.

Yeah, I tend to forget about the Rebels ones. SO yeah, there are 3 or 4 versions of Ezra, 2+ versions of Kanan, and 2+ versions of AHsoka to add to that as well.

Maybe generic Inquisitor crew, too?

Call it 30 total.

I think its a case of, if you are 100% canonically a Force user, you get a Force point. If you were a Force user in the EU and never mentioned ever again, you may not even be in the game and if you are, you may not have a Force charge. Corran being a prime example of that.

The boat is still out on Kyle.

Some argue that Chirrut will be a crew card and will have a Force charge, i don't think he will.

To add to your list:

Snoke
Ezra (Confirmed)
Kanan
Ashoka

3 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

Force is *rare* and very, very costly, from everything we know so far, and seems likely to be given only to the very strongest Force users - heck, Palpatine only gets a Force rating of 1 for goodness' sake.

the way the designers described it during unboxing, force rating is a combination of your ability to influence the force + your ability to influence the ship you're on

so pilots have a higher force rating than the emperor, who's just chilling in the back. Vader's a good example here too, having 3 as a pilot and 1 as a crew.

from what we know of Eu pilots-where apparently everyone, their mother, and their dog is force sensitive- FFG isn't handing out force ratings like candy. Even pilots that survive the great culling, like corran, don't have it

Id be surprised if Snoke isn't introduced at some point for FO, especially since they lost access to Palp.

Snoke crew has the power to project giant heads of himself and strangle his extensive supply of incompetent officers from a whole ship away!

You know, no offense to those in favor of prequel factions, but this makes me hope more than ever that they don’t introduce prequel factions. We really don’t need the Republic faction running around with dozens of force-using pilots and crew.

I don’t think that scum will have any other Force users besides Maul and Asajj.

They won’t give it to Kyle because we know they didn’t give it to Maarek or Corran.

I think it’s going to be limited to canonical examples of force users only, nobody in EU only. And even then, few will have 2 or 3 charges.

Keep in mind that force users (and the E Wing's Experimental Scanners) are basically the only way we currently know about to fully modify an attack. Well, and Darth Vader's ability, but he's already a force user. And it sounds like Ten Numb if you can get him stressed (which shouldn't be too hard) and TL. My point is that it's a super powerful ability, even if they don't have any "special" ability associated with their pilot (such as the generic TIE/v1 Inquisitor)

2 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

You know, no offense to those in favor of prequel factions, but this makes me hope more than ever that they don’t introduce prequel factions. We really don’t need the Republic faction running around with dozens of force-using pilots and crew.

With all offense intended to those who want prequel stuff, the prequels are bad and you should feel bad for liking them. Go play Destiny if you want that trash. ?

2 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

You know, no offense to those in favor of prequel factions, but this makes me hope more than ever that they don’t introduce prequel factions. We really don’t need the Republic faction running around with dozens of force-using pilots and crew.

Would your mind change if it was Obi-Wan in a Jedi Starfighter with a 2/3/2/2 stat line, but priced like a X Wing? 2 force-enhanced dice are still not that great.

But if they ever did add the Jedi Starfighter, itwould be interesting is if there was a force ability-only maneuver. Something like a purple maneuver where you have to spend a focus token in order to do a IG88D maneuver or something.

4 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

I don’t think that scum will have any other Force users besides Maul and Asajj.

They won’t give it to Kyle because we know they didn’t give it to Maarek or Corran.

I think it’s going to be limited to canonical examples of force users only, nobody in EU only. And even then, few will have 2 or 3 charges.

Actually I’m holding out hope that we’ll see Scum (and the empire) get a force-sensitive version or two of Mara Jade.

2 minutes ago, Khyros said:

Would your mind change if it was Obi-Wan in a Jedi Starfighter with a 2/3/2/2 stat line, but priced like a X Wing? 2 force-enhanced dice are still not that great.

It’s not that it wouldn’t be cool to have Obi-Wan as a pilot, because it would be cool, it’s that if they do that then they would have to also introduce Anakin, Mace windu, Yoda, and a half dozen other Jedi as pilots, and then also introduce all of them as crew members, plus a bunch more. I mean, if they did, then obviously the Republic’s faction identity would be using the force, because basically you have a bunch of clones, Padme, and a crap tonne of Jedi.

I admit it might be kind of interesting to see Palpatine using dark-side upgrades alongside the other Jedi in the same faction.

11 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

It’s not that it wouldn’t be cool to have Obi-Wan as a pilot, because it would be cool, it’s that if they do that then they would have to also introduce Anakin, Mace windu, Yoda, and a half dozen other Jedi as pilots, and then also introduce all of them as crew members, plus a bunch more. I mean, if they did, then obviously the Republic’s faction identity would be using the force, because basically you have a bunch of clones, Padme, and a crap tonne of Jedi.

I admit it might be kind of interesting to see Palpatine using dark-side upgrades alongside the other Jedi in the same faction.

True true. I didn't make my point very clear though. Having a force sensitive pilot does three things. One, it gives you a force charge to modify dice. Two, it gives you access to the force upgrade. And three, it gives you a force pilot ability. The force pilot ability really doesn't need to be a "force" ability. Ezra could have been given a charge just like Dengar to make it once per round, or even left as his v1.0 version. So point 3 is moot. And force upgrades are just a subset of EPTs, if they know that they're coming out with prequel stuff beforehand, this is really easy to keep in check. Which leaves the dice mod as the only advantage. And this can be accounted for by giving the prequel ships inferior technology. There would be a ton of force pilots, but they'd be limited to weak chassis, which would be a huge weakness in general. So now the force becomes their only edge.

It would definitely have a different feel than any other faction. You have a ton of weak, but highly accurate and evasive ships. It would be like a combination between rebel (highly accurate due to synergies), and imperial (weak cap). I'd be behind a new prequel faction with its own unique identity. You could have Yoda's ability be to regenerate two force points per turn, and Mace's be you can spend a force to change a blank to a hit. And then you'd have Rex and Cody floating around in ARC-170s. And some Naboo guards in N-1s. And wookies in Auzitucks. It would be far from exclusively clones and jedi, though there would definitely be a heavy hand of both.

If the designers end up wanting to do so, they can re-release maarek in practically any ship as a force user. He flew them all. Also, they can put vader in a defender (100 pts base cost?).

Rebely have a lot of force users.

For scum, they could just invent one in pne of their rpgs. In any case, I think scum will have no force users but rather "droid powers".

But I think the designers dont want that route. The force is an actionless modifier. Thats exactly the thing they wanted to knock down a notch.

It's gonna be rare and expensive. They introduced it because it's "cool". And its coolest on canon characters, which people want to see on the field.

So I dont think we'll get more than

Luke, ezra, kanan, MAYBE obiwan crew, ashoka

Vader, inquisitors, palp, maybe (big maybe) mara jade

Assaj, Maul

Kylo, snoke, maybe generic knight of ren

Rey, maybe luke and maz crews

47 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

You know, no offense to those in favor of prequel factions, but this makes me hope more than ever that they don’t introduce prequel factions. We really don’t need the Republic faction running around with dozens of force-using pilots and crew.

Every generic pilot in the Republic has Boba Fett's ability as standard, in addition to whatever their unique has.

The Separatists all have Calculate and when one takes a calculate action, it mind-links to all other Separatist ships as standard.

Sounds like a great game!

(Maul's Scimitar is a large base ship with native cloak. DAT DECLOAK YO)