Question about Finn-Rey combo on YT-1300 - how many blank re-rolls?

By BoardGameNoob, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Mis-read the pilot card; understand the dice roll rule now, too. Thanks. This can be closed.

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Short answer: No, you can't use Rey's re-roll ability twice, on a single die.

Long answer: There are multiple reasons why your scenario wouldn't work... one of which being, Rey's re-rolls only happen if the defender is in your firing arc, so you'd be getting your Finn die anyway. But more importantly, X-Wing handles the concepts of Rolling and Re-Rolling in very explicit ways; one is not equivalent to the other. Most relevant to this discussion is one standard ruling, when it comes to re-rolling dice, no matter the source (Predator, Target Lock, Han Solo pilot, M9-G8, etc)... you may only re-roll any given die once, during any given attack or defense. That's why Han Solo is worded as he is: you must reroll as many of your dice as possible. Say you already used Predator to reroll a blank result, and it stayed blank... you CAN use Han's ability, but you can't reroll the one die AGAIN, that already whiffed twice.

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On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 1:42 AM, BoardGameNoob said:

Here's my specific question: outside of my primary firing arc, Finn's ability doesn't trigger, but Rey's ability still would.

You might want to reread the pilot card. Rey and Finn are both arc-restricted; it's why they're usually paired together.

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Other than that, see @emeraldbeacon - you can't reroll a reroll.

Edited by Magnus Grendel
18 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:

You might want to reread the pilot card. Rey and Finn are both arc-restricted; it's why they're usually paired together.

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Other than that, see @emeraldbeacon - you can't reroll a reroll.

Yep got it. Thanks.

15 hours ago, emeraldbeacon said:

Short answer: No, you can't use Rey's re-roll ability twice, on a single die.

Long answer: There are multiple reasons why your scenario wouldn't work... one of which being, Rey's re-rolls only happen if the defender is in your firing arc, so you'd be getting your Finn die anyway. But more importantly, X-Wing handles the concepts of Rolling and Re-Rolling in very explicit ways; one is not equivalent to the other. Most relevant to this discussion is one standard ruling, when it comes to re-rolling dice, no matter the source (Predator, Target Lock, Han Solo pilot, M9-G8, etc)... you may only re-roll any given die once, during any given attack or defense. That's why Han Solo is worded as he is: you must reroll as many of your dice as possible. Say you already used Predator to reroll a blank result, and it stayed blank... you CAN use Han's ability, but you can't reroll the one die AGAIN, that already whiffed twice.

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Thanks. I mis-read Rey’s pilot card, but either way I understand now that dice can’t be rerolled more than once.