Do you think they'll let us fly 5 Zealous Recruits?

By Clutterbuck, in X-Wing

In 1.0, the Zealous Recruit was 20 points. We can run 5 of them now. Do you think they'll let us in 2.0? After all, the ship adds the Concordia Faceoff ability, as well as the linked reposition into Force actions. It seems unlikely, but I want to believe. What do you think?

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Probably not. Zealous Recruits likely cost 42 points. X-wings will likely be 43 points. BUT, if FFG be crazy and makes X-wings 40 points, then sure, Zealous Recruits should also be 40 points to match a 40 point X-wing's efficiency. The Kihraxz got an extra hull so it should be costed at 42 points now. A scyk with mangler should be 40 points as it doesn't have concord protector & linked actions like the fang.

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16 minutes ago, Dengar5 said:

Probably not. Zealous Recruits likely cost 42 points. X-wings will likely be 43 points. BUT, if FFG be crazy and makes X-wings 40 points, then sure, Zealous Recruits should also be 40 points to match a 40 point X-wing's efficiency. The Kihraxz got an extra hull so it should be costed at 42 points now. A scyk with mangler should be 40 points as it doesn't have concord protector & linked actions like the fang.

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Am I blind or is the Fang Fighter not on that list?

I honestly hope not. In the next game where token stacking, evades, and reinforce all get reined in, I think 3 red dice times 5 sounds a little much.

They were 20pts but naked in 1.0. Now in 2.0 they are title-equipped and with semi-PTL build in. So in my opinion: nope. It'll be over 40pts.

I'm not holding out hope for flying 5 3-dice ships anymore

call it a hunch, but I Don't think 2.0 will support that many red dice hitting the table at the same time (tie swarm excepted)

14 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I'm not holding out hope for flying 5 3-dice ships anymore

call it a hunch, but I Don't think 2.0 will support that many red dice hitting the table at the same time (tie swarm excepted)

What about 5 Scyks with Mangler cannons?

I really hope we aren't limited to 2/3/4 ship builds. I had a fun 7 ship list using two Quadjumpers, four Z95's with tracers and Light Sunny Bounder.

Better play it a lot before September.

I think with 3-dice generics you need to have either only 4 of any of them or 5 of all of them fitting in a 200-point game. Otherwise you’re in a really weird spot to fix it with just a point change.

16 minutes ago, Scum4Life said:

What about 5 Scyks with Mangler cannons?

I really hope we aren't limited to 2/3/4 ship builds. I had a fun 7 ship list using two Quadjumpers, four Z95's with tracers and Light Sunny Bounder.

Better play it a lot before September.

yeah scyks would make sense

strikers too

4 health seems reasonable, for a 20 health total

6 health X/khriax for 30 health total...not so jazzed about that

37 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I'm not holding out hope for flying 5 3-dice ships anymore

call it a hunch, but I Don't think 2.0 will support that many red dice hitting the table at the same time (tie swarm excepted)

You really think a naked Interceptor is going to be more than 40 points?

11 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

You really think a naked Interceptor is going to be more than 40 points?

Yeah I amended that line of thinking in the post above

You know I barely register Interceptors, the Schrodinger's ship of Xwing

Edit: forgot about the Advance

TL restriction is VERY stifling (outside Vader). Would not at all be surprised to see five Tempest squadron pilots on the table

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17 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Yeah I amended that line of thinking in the post above

You know I barely register Interceptors, the Schrodinger's ship of Xwing

Edit: forgot about the Advance

TL restriction is VERY stifling (outside Vader). Would not at all be surprised to see five Tempest squadron pilots on the table

I know that you forget the Interceptors even exist a lot of the time, but some of us like the little things.

6 hours ago, VanderLegion said:

Am I blind or is the Fang Fighter not on that list?

It's not. But Fang at 42-43 would match everything else. Linked actions on generics is a brand new concept essentially. PTL on Soontir was worth >6 2.0 points. Limited PTL on a generic is probably only worth 1-3 2.0 points.

TIE Striker & TIE Interceptor could both be 33 points letting you fly 6x in a list. The significant limiting factors they both have :: no shields, no target lock, I1. If either or both costs 34 points, limiting to 5x in a list, they should have discounts on their upgrades. TIE Interceptor has 2 mod slots, perhaps Targeting Computer for T.L.'s would be 0 points. TIE Striker has device slot, perhaps they'll get a significant discount on bombs. I would like to see them at 33 points. X-wing 2.0 better raise the average ship count of lists. The perpetual 2-3 ship meta is narrow and corrupt, a tragedy of what this game could be.

Maybe they could give us a zealous recruit but make it limited. That way you could squeeze an extra generic x-wing into your list but could ever get 5. It would work for tie fighters too, like you can have no more than 2 academy pilots in a squad but they are 20 points each in the new cost system.

Edited by Ayleron
Adding more thought