Thoughts on this Reb Fleet?

By Talon77, in Star Wars: Armada Fleet Builds

Raddus MC30
Author: ClosetEvolution

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 396/400

Commander: Admiral Raddus

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Jamming Barrier
Navigation Objective: Minefields

[ flagship ] MC75 Ordnance Cruiser (100 points)
- Admiral Raddus ( 26 points)
- Profundity ( 7 points)
- Strategic Adviser ( 4 points)
- Caitken and Shollan ( 6 points)
- Early Warning System ( 7 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
- Rapid Reload ( 8 points)
= 163 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Adar Tallon ( 10 points)
- Rapid Launch Bays ( 6 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 42 total ship cost

MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)
- Raymus Antilles ( 7 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Advanced Projectors ( 6 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
- Expanded Launchers ( 13 points)
= 99 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Leia Organa ( 3 points)
- Repair Crews ( 4 points)
= 25 total ship cost

1 Keyan Farlander ( 20 points)
1 B-Wing Squadron ( 14 points)
1 Shara Bey ( 17 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
= 67 total squadron cost

Mc75 might be better with Ordnance Experts as Caitken is an exhaust. ECM rather than EWS - personal preference.

with only a 4 point bid the RLB flotilla is a risk. It could get swatted from the sky or surrounded by fighters to pin the BWings if they deploy to shoot a ship. I know you have the Awing twins to disrupt but against decent fighter opposition of 80+ points this won't work too well. Even efficiency wise with 4 fighters your upgrades like BCC and Tallon may only be used once per game so I would just plump for saving points on these and buying more regular squadrons.

MC30 I would switch APs to Admonition and go APT for the double arcing.

I prefer comms net to repair crews. Giving your 2 combat ships a repair token to replace a shield is almost as good as a hull but you can do it in advance of being shot and from further out and do different commands and 2 points cheaper.

Edited by Mad Cat

What ship are you planning on bringing in with Raddus? With Profundity? I ask because it looks as though you want to Raddus in the MC75 and then Profundity the MC30. If so, I think Raddus has to be on a ship that is already on the board prior to use special ability. Also, Profundity only allows a small ship with a command value of 1 to come in, so that doesn’t work for the MC30 as it has a command value of 2.

I think his plan is to profundity in the rlb flotilla and then raddus in the 30 from that.

That being said, I’d cut some of the superfluous upgrades (rapid reload, raymous, advanced projectors, C&S expanded launchers, xi7 (these are competing with bombers anyway), and repair crew)

Replace with ECM/OE/Exrax on 75

Put Lando/IO on 30, add admonition and apt instead of EL

put comms net on second flotilla

put bright hope on BCC flotilla

get some intel so your bombers can bomb

4 minutes ago, MandalorianMoose said:

I think his plan is to profundity in the rlb flotilla and then raddus in the 30 from that.

Thanks. I’ve never seen anyone Raddus in a non-large ship. Usually see it with an MC75 or a Liberty.

37 minutes ago, Mad Cat said:

ECM rather than EWS - personal preference.

No, you’re just right.? The 75 wants to double arc, and EWS does less there. Also, the dual contain suite makes it much more practical to lock down both the brace and the redirect, and you’ll usually really, really want at least one.

3 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

No, you’re just right.? The 75 wants to double arc, and EWS does less there. Also, the dual contain suite makes it much more practical to lock down both the brace and the redirect, and you’ll usually really, really want at least one.

The only exception to this is aspiration with Lando that you’ve raddused in so that you get the double arc while still only exposing one arc to fire- it gives ABT fits

15 minutes ago, MandalorianMoose said:

The only exception to this is aspiration with Lando that you’ve raddused in so that you get the double arc while still only exposing one arc to fire- it gives ABT fits

Even then, I’m almost always happier having something that’s good against things that aren’t ABT, since 6 shields, 9 hull and Lando won’t often care about one more red die in that case.

48 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Even then, I’m almost always happier having something that’s good against things that aren’t ABT, since 6 shields, 9 hull and Lando won’t often care about one more red die in that case.

One less chance at a double!

Thanks for all the input!

@MandalorianMoose was correct about the Raddu/profundity plan.

Thoughts with BCC and Tallon was that MC75, MC30 and bombers all hitting in one round should be able to take down most any ship, or close to it, which is often enough to swing the tide in my favor if I can do so soon enough. And the mid-game deployment should help with positioning to secure a kill.

My thinking with AWS is that most builds seem to be bombers or a lot of smaller ships with one heavy hitter and the AWS may reduce total damage better, especially with my initial, head-first run to drop my bombers and MC30.

I really like the coms net advice!

As for a bid, I kinda figure I need to build heavy for a bid or ignore it... I decided to ignore it. If I g first, I am more likely to have activation advantage and if I go second, I have some decent objectives to help me out.

I’ll need to look closer at the other suggestions and get back to you all.

20 minutes ago, Talon77 said:

@MandalorianMoose was correct about the Raddu/profundity plan. 

Have never seen it used this way. Please follow-up with the results on how this works. Good hunting!

30 minutes ago, Admiral Calkins said:

Have never seen it used this way. Please follow-up with the results on how this works. Good hunting!

You can use it to stretch waaaaayyyy out there- I have a buddy in cc that has 2 75’s, with raddus on the profundity and Garels inside it. Popping out a small base distance one from profundity and THEN a large base distance one from that covers a HUGE amount of area

I plan ongiving a variation of this list a shot next weekend and will follow up.

Here is the updated version let me know what you think

Little Raddus
Author: ClosetEvolution

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 396/400

Commander: Admiral Raddus

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Jamming Barrier
Navigation Objective: Minefields

[ flagship ] MC75 Ordnance Cruiser (100 points)
- Admiral Raddus ( 26 points)
- Profundity ( 7 points)
- Strategic Adviser ( 4 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Early Warning System ( 7 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
- Ordnance Pods ( 3 points)
= 156 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Leia Organa ( 3 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 23 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Bright Hope ( 2 points)
- Toryn Farr ( 7 points)
- Rapid Launch Bays ( 6 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 41 total ship cost

MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)
- Admonition ( 8 points)
- Lando Calrissian ( 4 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 90 total ship cost

1 Shara Bey ( 17 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
1 Nym ( 21 points)
1 Keyan Farlander ( 20 points)
1 HWK-290 ( 12 points)
= 86 total squadron cost

On 5/19/2018 at 8:25 PM, Admiral Calkins said:

Profundity the MC30.

Just as a side note, Profundity has to bring in a small ship with a command value of one. Thus the MC30c with a command value of two can’t be dropped in by Profundity

1 hour ago, Mostly_Harmless_Species said:

Just as a side note, Profundity has to bring in a small ship with a command value of one. Thus the MC30c with a command value of two can’t be dropped in by Profundity

Thanks, but please read my whole post. I thought this was what he was trying to do and mentioned this as an issue. I obviously was way off on his drop order and my post just made me look like a Raddus newbie.

Yeah, sorry about that. Guess I did t read it right first time around. Never good to be assuming.

Np. I learned my lesson too!