uh, because he was an 8 before? 6 is the max, i.e the PS9'rs

1 minute ago, Nyxen said:

The lightsaber combat can be easily explained, even from a real world example. Granted there's a larger time gap but we are just starting to actually figure out what skilled fighting with an arming sword looked like due to the efforts of historians and enthusiasts translating ancient training manuals. Now look at what happened in star wars. The sword fighters all died and their ways were suppressed by the government. Luke got 3 days of basics before he went to fight Vader, who's lost most of the agility that made the sabre an art form pre-fall.

Vader vs Obi-Wan in ANH?

9 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

Vader vs Obi-Wan in ANH?

Vader: see above

Obi-wan: wasn't trying to win and was clearly not in the same physical shape. He was also sacrificing himself to radicalise Luke against his father.

I don't see "Ace of Legend" on Corran, no 6 for you.

3 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

Vader vs Obi-Wan in ANH?

Better fight than anything from the loathesome prequels.

14 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

Also... Hera, while good, when she meets an ACTUAL PS 9 pilot (Vader)... she is scared to the bones, and she is pretty much powerless.

Even if we wanna go with the overblown action of Rebels, we do have a comparison in that show. Vader is clearly shown to be the superior pilot in every way.

Whilst I don't agree with the rest of your thoughts on Hera or Rebels, she does also get schooled by Fenn. I used to think she should be a 6 as well but thinking about that 5 is probably fair. If Luke and Norra are 5's, Hera should be a 5 too.

1 hour ago, HolySorcerer said:

Better fight than anything from the loathesome prequels.

I didn't say it wasn't, I said it is different

6 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

Better fight than anything from the loathesome prequels.

Not even remotely. Even if you want to hate the prequels just cause, the choreography of the prequel fights was a thousand times better.

15 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

Not even remotely. Even if you want to hate the prequels just cause, the choreography of the prequel fights was a thousand times better.

Nick Gilliard is a TALENTLESS HACK not fit to replace the lacing on Bob Anderson's fencing shoes, and I will curse his name until the day I die.

27 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

Not even remotely. Even if you want to hate the prequels just cause, the choreography of the prequel fights was a thousand times better.

I believe there's a particular prequel gif that I should be posting in response to this.

On 5/19/2018 at 6:28 AM, Veldrin said:

Kyp Durron is the worst protagonist in any Star Wars book(s) and not canon. No way a non-canon character will get force powers.

FTFY

On 5/19/2018 at 11:47 AM, Swedge said:

yeah he should have been a 9...

Because he is well known for being better than Wedge and Soontir? ?

21 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

Also... Hera, while good, when she meets an ACTUAL PS 9 pilot (Vader)... she is scared to the bones, and she is pretty much powerless.

Even if we wanna go with the overblown action of Rebels, we do have a comparison in that show. Vader is clearly shown to be the superior pilot in every way.

This. She is definitely an inferior pilot to Vader and Fenn Rau, because she fails to stop the former and gets her backside handed to her by the latter.

She is good - and may have been involved in training Wedge but Wedge was an academy final year graduate before she met him; she may have taught him but didn't teach him everything.

I would happily put her at I5, but not I6.

Vult Skerris, by comparison, is a distinctly worse pilot than Hera (since he loses in a markedly superior fighter) so despite also being someone 'who trained wedge' I would put him even further down the chain at 4. That matches a Saber Squadron Veteran - i.e. an exceptionally competent 'nameless generic'.

On 5/20/2018 at 7:35 AM, Commander Kaine said:

And you people wonder why we didn't like rebels?

Hera isn't the best pilot. She is the best at everything.

Seriously, she matches Rukh in hand to hand combat.

She matches Thrawn in strategical thinking.

And now you say she is supposed to be one of the best pilot in the Galaxy?

You know... I'd take the last one even. Fine. Not in the game, because rebels don't need 4 max initiative pilots, but lorewise.

But the fact that she succeeds at pretty much everything, takes away from her achievements...

This is nothing, but lazy wish fulfilment of the most basic level. Badass Mary Sue character, best at everything.

Are there many like her? Sure. Sabine is even worse. But this shouldn't be the standard.

She constantly loses ships when flying fighters. She gets trashed by Fenn Rau when flying her A-Wing. she gets trashed in a X-Wing, and only in the Ghost she seems to be able to actually dish out ... which might be based more on her Astromech and herself keeping the ship tip-top instead of her amazing flying abilities.

Thrawn's plan outwit her as well.

And Rukh ... well, Rebels Rukh is not what he used to be. ?
Can't say I agree with your perception of reality.

On 5/21/2018 at 4:16 AM, Alpha17 said:

Not even remotely. Even if you want to hate the prequels just cause, the choreography of the prequel fights was a thousand times better.

20 minutes ago, DeathstarII said:

isn't that one of the dumbest sequences ever?

well it's true, you have to be HIGHLY choreographed to swing your sabers around like that while never hitting your opponent nor his weapon

47 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

well it's true, you have to be HIGHLY choreographed to swing your sabers around like that while never hitting your opponent nor his weapon

I'm sure it helps if the props don't have a pesky blade to get in the way, and the blade is drawn in post.

And HIGHLY choreographed doesn't necessarily mean the choreography is GOOD.

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 3:39 AM, Swedge said:

Why is the best pilot in Rogue Squadron only a 5 and why doesn't he have Force powers????

cause, Rebel bias?

27 minutes ago, Ambaryerno said:

I'm sure it helps if the props don't have a pesky blade to get in the way, and the blade is drawn in post.

And HIGHLY choreographed doesn't necessarily mean the choreography is GOOD.

that's ze joke

3 hours ago, Ambaryerno said:

I'm   sure it helps if the props don't have a pesky blade to get in the way, and the blade is drawn in post.

The prop sabers do have blades attached.