We at the Hopeless Gamer recently had an amazing opportunity to visit with Rob Kouba, designer of Battles of Westeros, and sit down for a game while he taught us. We'll be posting several articles this week, and our first one is what it's like to play as the Lannisters (evil rich guys!) in the first scenario. Check it out here: http://thehopelessgamer.blogspot.com/2010/03/battles-of-westeros-lannisters-tale.html

Thanks for posting! Looking forward to the rest of the articles

I enjoyed reading this and I'm now even more looking forward to the release of Battles of Westeros.

Thank yoo for your review, after reading the article, I can say the two games are different.

It's now for me more likely want to play Battles of Westeros =) Looking forward for the arrival of my friends copy =)

Thanks for the post and article. . . I am now more excited than ever that FFG is still supporting Battle Lore! I can't wait for the Horrific Horde expansion. Battle of Westeros seems interesting, but I will be passing. I have too much money into Battle Lore already and apparently the two games are not compatible (even though on BoW is says it is a Battle Lore game). . . still not sure why they call it that.

Good review. Thanks for the sneak peak. I'm looking forward to more yet.

Thanks for the heads up but does this really need to be posted in both forums? It really has no specific info regarding Vanilla Battlelore.

spacemonkeymafia said:

Thank you for reading my thoughts and expressing them in such a polite manner.

Thank you all for the nice replies and comments. In regarding to being posted in both forums - we actually put out a call for questions to ask Rob Kouba about the new game. The vast majority of the questions we received were in regard to how it compares to classic BL. With that in mind, I think it's fairly relevant to post in the classic BL general discussion.

Thank you for the post. It was interesting. I'll be passing Battles of Westeros.

I find it a lame attempt to draw people in a new system complete with lots and lots of expansions. There was no need to put "BattleLore" on the box.

The game is very different from BattleLore and the latter merely inspired the creation of the former. Many games have done that but they don't write it on the box.

I'll continue supporting the real BattleLore.

heh

Like they cost so much that one cant buy all

Cant say that this Battle loresh westeros is better than Battlelore, but a must buy still. From those figures I can get free heroes and more different units to battlelore

Fragmaster: I disagree that it's just a tacked on game. While I admittedly don't know a whole lot about the intricacies of BattleLore, I think it definitely builds off the framework of the Classic version of the game and creates what could be considered a sequel.

Either way, the second part of our series on playing Battles of Westeros with Rob Kouba is now up on The Hopeless Gamer. Check out my post on playing House Stark in Winter is Coming here: http://thehopelessgamer.blogspot.com/2010/03/battles-of-westeros-winter-is-coming.html

This looks cool. Thankies.

Are we sure they are the same scale as True BattleLore?

pwvogt said:

I agree on the first sentence and disagree on the second. It certainly uses as BattleLore as a foundation but goes completely different from then on. A lot of the intuitive and elegant mechanics are thrown out of the window for the usual wargaming style rules that everyone feels comfortable with. But this makes it just a game, no different than any other wargame.

I wouldn't call this a sequel. It's a lateral step not a step forward.

Thank you very much for your previews.

FragMaster said:

Don't you think they put 'A Battlelore Game' on the box because BoW is based on that gamesystem? I call this paying credit to a great game. But that is just my point of view.

Pedro777 said:

Few people will support both games. Most will choose one or the other. So for me that I really don't care about a non-BattleLore product that antagonizes BattleLore, Battles of Westeros is the "enemy".

I certainly don't see it as "paying credit" to BattleLore. I see it as "trying to steal fans and support" from BattleLore. This is my own point of view. I will not push money in BoW direction because I feel that I'm helping bring BattleLore down.

I perfectly understand that as a new game a lot of people will be excited to see it, buy it and play it. I would probably do the same if I didn't think that this game is BattleLore's antagonist. This is a special case and I will not support it even if the game is actually good.

I understand your point of view. I would buy BoW anyway, with or without the Battlelore connection. I will keep on supporting Battlelore. Too bad so few people in Belgium are interested in the game.