4 hours ago, Cr0aker said:

Thrawn made it, despite the mouses love of nancy antagonists.

HK47 when?!

4 hours ago, Cr0aker said:

The real question is which canon?

I love this cartoon. I've joked with a buddy that this is how Episode IX will end, and Mara will just laugh at the absurdity of everything in Mouse canon.

4 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

HK47 when?!

I watched Rogue One last week, and I thought how cool it would have been if K-2SO had just been a reprogramed HK-47. The Rebels found him on Yavin, recharged/reprogrammed him, and put him to work. Wouldn't have really changed anything besides providing a bit of fan service. Maybe have him have a programming error/flashback when he gets shot, and start calling people meatbags and talking to Revan. Alas, things that never will be.

Just now, Alpha17 said:

I watched Rogue One last week, and I thought how cool it would have been if K-2SO had just been a reprogramed HK-47. The Rebels found him on Yavin, recharged/reprogrammed him, and put him to work. Wouldn't have really changed anything besides providing a bit of fan service. Maybe have him have a programming error/flashback when he gets shot, and start calling people meatbags and talking to Revan. Alas, things that never will be.

We need someone to mod KOTOR and change HK-47 to Alan Tudyk's K2S0 voice.

5 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

I watched Rogue One last week, and I thought how cool it would have been if K-2SO had just been a reprogramed HK-47. The Rebels found him on Yavin, recharged/reprogrammed him, and put him to work. Wouldn't have really changed anything besides providing a bit of fan service. Maybe have him have a programming error/flashback when he gets shot, and start calling people meatbags and talking to Revan. Alas, things that never will be.

OMG... why? Why must everything be so interconnected in this gigantic universe? Why can't just K2SO be awesome on his own right? Why must he be related to another character, so that 2% of the audience will have an erection?

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

They did in Rebels.. prototype had a powerful convergence beam and proton torpedoes were mentioned.

Except I've poured over every inch of the B-wing, and there is physically NOWHERE that torpedoes can fit.

46 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

That was always the assumption. But I can't imagine them only giving us a 2 die primary on the SF in 2e, unless it has a built in ship ability similar to the title. In which csae, we still probably woulnd't get the gunner upgrade slot...

Built in ship ability is exactly what I was thinking of. I expect the /SF will get something in that space that gives an extra red die in the front if you give up bonus attacks, with bonus attacks (or possibly other abilities) being provided by the Gunner slot.

23 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

OMG... why? Why must everything be so interconnected in this gigantic universe? Why can't just K2SO be awesome on his own right? Why must he be related to another character, so that 2% of the audience will have an erection?

Because I thought it would have been a nice nod to continuity, allow a good send off to a fan favorite character, and it would have been cool. If you don't like it, fine, I could care less. Don't act like the very idea pisses in your Cheerios though.

26 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

I watched Rogue One last week, and I thought how cool it would have been if K-2SO had just been a reprogramed HK-47. The Rebels found him on Yavin, recharged/reprogrammed him, and put him to work. Wouldn't have really changed anything besides providing a bit of fan service. Maybe have him have a programming error/flashback when he gets shot, and start calling people meatbags and talking to Revan. Alas, things that never will be.

And every scene where K2SO pretends to be an Imperial droid...

I really don't think HK-47 could have walked through the whole Scariff base without somebody stopping them.

25 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

OMG... why? Why must everything be so interconnected in this gigantic universe? Why can't just K2SO be awesome on his own right? Why must he be related to another character, so that 2% of the audience will have an erection?

I like K2SO as a new independent character as well.

2 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

I could care less.

Oh, now you're just pissing in everyone's Cheerios!

5 minutes ago, __underscore__ said:

Oh, now you're just pissing in everyone's Cheerios!

38 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

I watched Rogue One last week, and I thought how cool it would have been if K-2SO had just been a reprogramed HK-47. The Rebels found him on Yavin, recharged/reprogrammed him, and put him to work. Wouldn't have really changed anything besides providing a bit of fan service. Maybe have him have a programming error/flashback when he gets shot, and start calling people meatbags and talking to Revan. Alas, things that never will be. 

I see why you'd want that- HK47 was cool! But he was dead 1,000 years before Rogue One. It would have been strange for him to pop up.

I mean. The Hammer Head cruisers were merely (in canon) "inspired by" those 1,000 year old ships, not the same ones.

2 minutes ago, nitrobenz said:

And every scene where K2SO pretends to be an Imperial droid...

I really don't think HK-47 could have walked through the whole Scariff base without somebody stopping them.

All, what, two times he does that? Once on Jedha and the 5 minutes, it lasts on Jedha? If C-3PO and R2 can pull off the trick on the Death Star, I feel like HK-47 could have done it.

And the reason it even came up is that like most of what we've seen in the new movies, K-2SO is just a poor man's adaption of what's come before. His personality is a watered down version of HK-47. (cranky, semi-homicidal droid that actually has a strong loyalty streak, frequently argues with characters he acts to save later) If they're going to do that, why not just bring in the real thing? I feel the same way about Jacen/Kylo, and Rey/Jaina.

If you liked the new take on the characters, fine. Good for you. I think adapting what has come before, and acknowledging that, is better.

3 minutes ago, Punning Pundit said:

I see why you'd want that- HK47 was cool! But he was dead 1,000 years before Rogue One. It would have been strange for him to pop up.

I mean. The Hammer Head cruisers were merely (in canon) "inspired by" those 1,000 year old ships, not the same ones.

According to The Old Republic game, didn't a version of HK-47 end up on Yavin though? That's where the idea stemmed from.

2 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

All, what, two times he does that? Once on Jedha and the 5 minutes, it lasts on Jedha? If C-3PO and R2 can pull off the trick on the Death Star, I feel like HK-47 could have done it.

And the reason it even came up is that like most of what we've seen in the new movies, K-2SO is just a poor man's adaption of what's come before. His personality is a watered down version of HK-47. (cranky, semi-homicidal droid that actually has a strong loyalty streak, frequently argues with characters he acts to save later) If they're going to do that, why not just bring in the real thing? I feel the same way about Jacen/Kylo, and Rey/Jaina.

If you liked the new take on the characters, fine. Good for you. I think adapting what has come before, and acknowledging that, is better.

According to The Old Republic game, didn't a version of HK-47 end up on Yavin though? That's where the idea stemmed from.

I didn't play the MMO, but didn't that take place 1,000 years before the movies? He'd long be dust by then, even if he was made of metal and ended up there.

The last thing Rogue One needed was more fan service.

Just now, Punning Pundit said:

I didn't play the MMO, but didn't that take place 1,000 years before the movies? He'd long be dust by then, even if he was made of metal and ended up there.

Entirely probable. This is SW, though, and a simple "found the droid stored away" line would have been enough to explain it away. Wouldn't be the first time we've had characters make the jump through eras like that.

26 minutes ago, Ambaryerno said:

Except I've poured over every inch of the B-wing, and there is physically NOWHERE that torpedoes can fit.

Every inch, eh? Sounds kinky.

actually I’ve wondered about the b-wing torp slots for decades and I’ve figured the launcher is probably in the large ‘tail wing’ or the gun pod opposite the cockpit. Those locations have holes and tubes that could possibly launch warheads

51 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

All, what, two times he does that? Once on Jedha and the 5 minutes, it lasts on Jedha? If C-3PO and R2 can pull off the trick on the Death Star, I feel like HK-47 could have done it.

And the reason it even came up is that like most of what we've seen in the new movies, K-2SO is just a poor man's adaption of what's come before. His personality is a watered down version of HK-47. (cranky, semi-homicidal droid that actually has a strong loyalty streak, frequently argues with characters he acts to save later) If they're going to do that, why not just bring in the real thing? I feel the same way about Jacen/Kylo, and Rey/Jaina.

If you liked the new take on the characters, fine. Good for you. I think adapting what has come before, and acknowledging that, is better.

According to The Old Republic game, didn't a version of HK-47 end up on Yavin though? That's where the idea stemmed from.

While HK-47 does show up in TOR, as well as a number of subsequent models based on him, I think you're thinking of his role as a boss on Mustafar in Galaxies, actually, where the spacers reactivate his memory core and build him a body.

this is the mechanical menace I’m hoping to see in canon some day.

49 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Every inch, eh? Sounds kinky.

actually I’ve wondered about the b-wing torp slots for decades and I’ve figured the launcher is probably in the large ‘tail wing’ or the gun pod opposite the cockpit. Those locations have holes and tubes that could possibly launch warheads

Except there's not actually any holes or tubes (other than the cannon in the gun pod). Lots of blank walls, and even then, no room inside for the launcher, much less the magazine.

7 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

I'm fairly sure special attacks mean secondary weapons and attacks granted by epts

Snap Shot Krassis shooting out the rear! Major jokes incoming!

21 minutes ago, Ambaryerno said:

Except there's not actually any holes or tubes (other than the cannon in the gun pod). Lots of blank walls, and even then, no room inside for the launcher, much less the magazine.

dont know how officially canon it is but here is one interpretation with torps in the gun pod and in the main fuselage near the ‘neck’. Eh close enough for me.

2 hours ago, Ambaryerno said:

Except I've poured over every inch of the B-wing, and there is physically NOWHERE that torpedoes can fit.

This page http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/B-Wing and the picture on it shows at least 2 areas.

All those places are impossible. As I already noted, the actual structure on the forward facings would prohibit it. It's especially evident here:

Note the curved rear wall above the engine module, and the blank structure in the gun pod.

Believe me, I've studied every photo I can of both the original effects model and studio scale reproductions. This is a pure gunship, and those secondary sources (read: everything NOT the film. But ESPECIALLY the EGVV which is poorly-researched trash) are full of it.

If it were me, I'd eliminate the primary weapon and torpedo launchers, give the B-wing three cannon slots, and allow it to equip autoblasters, ion cannon, and heavy laser cannon for free.