Will 2.0 have any ‘canon’ upgrades...

By That Blasted Samophlange, in X-Wing

What I am referencing is not to be confused with a cannon - a large gun, but ships that line up with onscreen or other published media.

Currently, we have a number of ships that don't exactly follow canon sources.

Some examples are:

The TIE Striker having bombs.

The TIE Bomber has another crew station.

TIE Silencer had missiles

Apparently the TIE/sf really moves..

U-wing lower cockpit window (by pilots feet) non-existant

These are the ones off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are others. Some issues are visual (or mechanical) such as the fangs wings which the developers didn't know about when designing it.

I bring these up because 2.0 has the ability to fix all these. A TIE bomber could get a gunner slot, as well as the TIE/sf. It also has the ability to fix these issues on the fly. With the TIE Striker, the bombs weren't revealed till after FFG had built it. With the App and removal of icons from the cards, we may very well get canon upgrades to several ships.

If FFG also gets something wrong, they may even be able to fix it easily. This will make for a more immersive game. While many will say that gameplay > fluff, why not have a game that is gameplay = fluff? I think 2.0 is a step towards that.

What are your thoughts on this issue? Any other examples, from the current canon, not legends, you can think of where a ship is flawed or doesn't line up with the fiction?

16 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

What I am referencing is not to be confused with a cannon - a large gun, but ships that line up with onscreen or other published media.

Currently, we have a number of ships that don't exactly follow canon sources.

Some examples are:

The TIE Striker having bombs.

The TIE Bomber has another crew station.

TIE Silencer had missiles

Apparently the TIE/sf really moves..

U-wing lower cockpit window (by pilots feet) non-existant

These are the ones off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are others. Some issues are visual (or mechanical) such as the fangs wings which the developers didn't know about when designing it.

I bring these up because 2.0 has the ability to fix all these. A TIE bomber could get a gunner slot, as well as the TIE/sf. It also has the ability to fix these issues on the fly. With the TIE Striker, the bombs weren't revealed till after FFG had built it. With the App and removal of icons from the cards, we may very well get canon upgrades to several ships.

If FFG also gets something wrong, they may even be able to fix it easily. This will make for a more immersive game. While many will say that gameplay > fluff, why not have a game that is gameplay = fluff? I think 2.0 is a step towards that.

What are your thoughts on this issue? Any other examples, from the current canon, not legends, you can think of where a ship is flawed or doesn't line up with the fiction?

I hope this will be the case.

Empire can use more crew carriers, and the FO ships are no longer limited by imperial upgrades like Palpatine.

Also, the SF was shown to be needing LWF badly.

I wonder if the Tie shuttle will survive to 2.0?

The only hint I've seen so far is the term 'Special Attack' from Krassis' card.

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We don't really know, but the beauty part is if they don't, they could later. At least, when it comes to stuff like slots.

9 minutes ago, __underscore__ said:

The only hint I've seen so far is the term 'Special Attack' from Krassis' card.

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I'm fairly sure special attacks mean secondary weapons and attacks granted by epts

4 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

I'm fairly sure special attacks mean secondary weapons and attacks granted by epts

Sure, but we haven't seen the wording anywhere else though, right? Unless this just refers to ordnance for the time being.

Just now, __underscore__ said:

Sure, but we haven't seen the wording anywhere else though, right? Unless this just refers to ordnance for the time being.

To be fair... We saw less than 5% of the content so far. So anything goes really.

45 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Some examples are:

The TIE Striker having bombs.

I don't remember this. When in RO did they bomb something?

7 minutes ago, __underscore__ said:

Sure, but we haven't seen the wording anywhere else though, right? Unless this just refers to ordnance for the time being.

It's there on the new totally-not-Deadeye, so yeah, seems that "special attack" is the new wording for attacking with secondary weapons.

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1 minute ago, Kharnete said:

It's there on the new totally-not-Deadeye, so yeah, seems that "special attack" is the new wording for attacking with secondary weapons.

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Ah, so probably anything with the Attack: header then.

1 minute ago, __underscore__ said:

Ah, so probably anything with the Attack: header then.

Yep.

8 minutes ago, papy72 said:

I don't remember this. When in RO did they bomb something?

We haven't seen B-wings fire torpedoes either.

12 minutes ago, papy72 said:

I don't remember this. When in RO did they bomb something?

They didn't, but in some of the related media (Cross sections book, I believe) it talks about them being two-person craft with bombs.

13 minutes ago, papy72 said:

I don't remember this. When in RO did they bomb something?

It was actually revealed in the Rogue One Crossections book.

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1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

The TIE Bomber has another crew station.

Is this in one of the NuMarvel comics? We never saw how many crew members flew Bombers, but we also never saw Bombers do anything other than dropping bombs: no torps or missiles.

14 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

They didn't, but in some of the related media (Cross sections book, I believe) it talks about them being two-person craft with bombs.

Well that would explain my lack of memory ?

The real question is which canon?

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Thrawn made it, despite the mouses love of nancy antagonists.

25 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

It was actually revealed in the Rogue One Crossections book.

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Darn it beat me to it ! These books provide a lot. Love them in conjunction with xwing even if the contradict from time to time. A lot I hope will be “fixed”

39 minutes ago, Cr0aker said:

The real question is which canon?

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Ha, I actually wrote one that made everything from NJO forward a nightmare once.

45 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Is this in one of the NuMarvel comics? We never saw how many crew members flew Bombers, but we also never saw Bombers do anything other than dropping bombs: no torps or missiles.

Season 3 of Rebels, episode 4 - The Antilles Extraction.

Sabine, Wedge, and Hobbie escape in a TIE Bomber from Skystrike Academy. Wedge pilots in the traditional spot while Hobbie goes to another station situated in the other pod. The hexagonal port on the ordnance pod is apparently a viewport.

http://imperiya.by/video/VTeHfdCsU9K/-Sabine-Wedge-Antilles-Escape-Imperial-Skystrike-Academy-_Star-Wars-Rebels-Season-3-Episode-3.html

18 minutes ago, Ambaryerno said:

Ha, I actually wrote one that made everything from NJO forward a nightmare once.

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Nightmares about your future/past?

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6 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Season 3 of Rebels, episode 4 - The Antilles Extraction.

Sabine, Wedge, and Hobbie escape in a TIE Bomber from Skystrike Academy. Wedge pilots in the traditional spot while Hobbie goes to another station situated in the other pod. The hexagonal port on the ordnance pod is apparently a viewport.

http://imperiya.by/video/VTeHfdCsU9K/-Sabine-Wedge-Antilles-Escape-Imperial-Skystrike-Academy-_Star-Wars-Rebels-Season-3-Episode-3.html

Are we sure that wasn't a TIE Shuttle and not a bomber?

2 minutes ago, Ambaryerno said:

Are we sure that wasn't a TIE Shuttle and not a bomber?

Does the punisher have 4 extra view ports? What is it a space safari truck?