I'd love to see the Dreadnought, with Kitana Fleet/Standard Dreadnought and Wolf/Imperial Support Ship variants. That's probably the one ship I most want to see.
IF you had your choice to pick a new medium imperial ship what would it be?
On 5/16/2018 at 3:21 PM, Crabbok said:Venator for Imperials - all the way. Easy choice there.
Second choice would be the Wolf, (The Legends Dreadnought's from the Kitana Fleet), as seen in the Rebels Finale. Make it dual faction ship, available to both classes.
Third would be a black lion, that when combines with the green, red, blue, and yellow lions, forms Voltron - Defender of the Universe!
Why Wolf?
The Wolf on the top right of the artwork from Starwars.com (1) isn't the Ships Name, the Ships name is underneath it and indeed says Imperial Support Vessel. I don't know what the Wolf stands for but as said below it is also present on the Interdictor artwork and they're both designed By Andre Kirk so it might be some trope of his.
Afterall it is also present on the Interdictor artwork (2) and we dont call those Wolf.
Anyhow: I am all for a dreadnought, though the more rounded Legends version or FractalSponges design, personally I don't really like the Rebels version - to squared/blocky, I think it looks like from an nineties PC game.
Also if this isn't already a thing:
#TeamLargeVenator
Edited by Captain_Nemo3 minutes ago, Captain_Nemo said:Why Wolf?
The Wolf on the top right of the artwork from Starwars.com (1) isn't the Ships Name, the Ships name is underneath it and indeed says Imperial Support Vessel. I don't know what the Wolf stands for but as said below it is also present on the Interdictor artwork and they're both designed By Andre Kirk so it might be some trope of his.
Afterall it is also present on the Interdictor artwork (2) and we dont call those Wolf.
If I recall correctly, all Rebels artwork had the 'code name' or label of Wolf.
3 minutes ago, Captain_Nemo said:#TeamLargeVenator
I'd take any Venator, but a large one seems best to me, too.
Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:If I recall correctly, all Rebels artwork had the 'code name' or label of Wolf.
I'd take any Venator, but a large one seems best to me, too.
Oh, okay thats it then - thanks
I’ll never understand why people are so into such a phallic ship.... give me more triangles!!!
8 minutes ago, MandalorianMoose said:I’ll never understand why people are so into such a phallic ship.... give me more triangles!!!
Yes. You can never have enough triangles. And there are still so many out there that we could get.
1 hour ago, Admiral Calkins said:Yes. You can never have enough triangles. And there are still so many out there that we could get.
Like the Vindicator
#TeamVindicator
17 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:Like the Vindicator
#TeamVindicator
I’ll second that
Edit: But if we ever get Interdictors without grav wells, does that mean that we will eventually get ISDs with them?
Edited by Admiral Calkins9 minutes ago, Admiral Calkins said:I’ll second that
Edit: But if we ever get Interdictors without grav wells, does that mean that we will eventually get ISDs with them?
The Interdictor we have kinda fits the role already.
6 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:The Interdictor we have kinda fits the role already.
Totally agree. Just love the look of these.
13 minutes ago, Admiral Calkins said:Totally agree. Just love the look of these.
I personally think they are ugly.
off topice... but do you think that they would come with a free experimental retrofit? due to their size
The Venator as a large ship is silly when the Victory is a medium. These ships were more or less combined to make the Imperial.
Plus this goal is to make the Venator not an overall defacto better choice than the Imperial.
9 minutes ago, Gottmituns205 said:The Venator as a large ship is silly when the Victory is a medium. These ships were more or less combined to make the Imperial.
Plus this goal is to make the Venator not an overall defacto better choice than the Imperial.
But isn't the Venator about as long as the MC80s? It's longer than the Interdicitor and people have always said that that was on the large border of medium.
Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:But isn't the Venator about as long as the MC80s? It's longer than the Interdicitor and people have always said that that was on the large border of medium.
Longer than Liberty, shorter than Interdictor.
On 5/18/2018 at 10:24 AM, Church14 said:Thank god none of the Clone Wars stuff made it into Armada. Except for the Gozanti, Arquitens, CR90, Pelta, Firespray, YV-666 and Ywings.
That is because they are not ONLY Clone Wars, so I could care less about anything from that time or from that trilogy. We don't need Separatists or Republic ships :D
3 hours ago, Indy_com said:Longer than Liberty, shorter than Interdictor.
I mean tbh...900 for the Victory, 1130 for the Venator, and 1600 for the Imperial.
1200 for the MC80 and 1300 for the Home One type.
The reasoning I think the Venator should be scaled smaller, a tad longer than the Victory but on a medium base...because it's a medium sized warship that is older than the MC80's.
Besides a large base is gonna make the game designers buff it to the point it makes it cheaper/better to use than the ISD...which is something we wanna avoid.
Scalewise it's a large ship, but game play it should be a medium...a true carrier counter to the Victory.
Edited by Gottmituns205I think Dreadnaughts could be used for both factions. Just different cards and specs to make them unique ships for each faction
31 minutes ago, Gottmituns205 said:I mean tbh...900 for the Victory, 1130 for the Venator, and 1600 for the Imperial.
1200 for the MC80 and 1300 for the Home One type.
The reasoning I think the Venator should be scaled smaller, a tad longer than the Victory but on a medium base...because it's a medium sized warship that is older than the MC80's.
Besides a large base is gonna make the game designers buff it to the point it makes it cheaper/better to use than the ISD...which is something we wanna avoid.
Scalewise it's a large ship, but game play it should be a medium...a true carrier counter to the Victory.
It should be similar to the Interdictor where while it's a medium ship, it handles like a large ship.
Personally, I would love to see either the Venator or Acclamator classes come in. I understand the arguments for and against the Venator being a large, and I accept points on both arguments. I will lay out my ideas, as follows:
Venator Large:
I would enjoy to see some variety on the field of the Imperial Large ships. The Venator has a unique enough design profile that from above, it would be easy to tell that someone is fielding one. Thus providing the first check box. Then I would like for it to have 3 variants, one is a dedicated large carrier for the Imperials with some broadside capabilities, the second being a dedicated broadside ship for large imperials. This would work with what we have previously seen in the films, as a carrier with broadside capabilities, IE: Battle For/Over Coruscant in episode 3. The Third variant I would like to see is a rebel controlled version that would work as a large or medium dedicated carrier for Rebels, which we all know they are lacking. This version would lack some of the broadside capabilities and have a slightly weaker hull than the imperial versions to show that it is an older ship that was salvaged from a scrap yard.
I would put it at 10 hull, and 8 shields spread pretty evenly.
Venator Medium:
Again, I would like to see three versions of this, about the same listed above but obviously with less hull and shields. The imperial version would be a dedicated broadside ship, with dedicated carrier and broadside versions being for the rebels. The use behind this would that the Imperial forces still using the Venator would rearm it with more broadside capability now that they are using other dedicated TIE carriers, where the Venator would still work well as a carrier for something like XWINGS.
Acclamator:
I would just love to see the Venator's brother in the game as well, in fact, I would love if the imperials got a Large Venator and medium Acclamator and Rebels got rebel variants or something else. I think they would work well as support ships or as a gunship with maybe it doesn't have ion cannons and has 2 turbolasers but would otherwise be basically, a slightly different VSD, including speed.
With these released, I would love to see a couple other upgrade cards that would come with them. Perhaps some notable CW admiral that would work well for the game on either side. I would also like to see Captain Rex as a rebel boarding trooper or other clones come in as upgrades/squadrons.
I personally love Most of Episode 2, Clone Wars, and most of 3, I think that these movies and the show had great capital ship battles and other important capital ship stuff. I would love to see the parts of this come out, much more than the Resurgant class of the sequels because, well, the Venator and Acclamator still fit within the board without having to up pt limits. I think they could complement either side they are added to in various ways that arn't currently used for their respective sides.
I’m definitely on team Acclamator.
The mk 1 could beef up the boarding/assault mechanic. Vader & boarding troopers! Still a one trick pony but it would be fun.
Mk 2 could be a more generic med/long range support ship.
On 5/20/2018 at 12:02 AM, Formynder4 said:The mighty EU version? That was described as antiquated, under-armed, overly armored (for the time). Only worth anything as the heavily upgraded/networked Katana fleet?
The Katana Fleet only helpd with the huge crew requirement, only a problem for the Rebels and the Remnants/Empire after Endor. Before Endor the Empire had more crew than they needed ... however they also had no real shortage of ships, so they dont really needed to put the old dreadnoughts into service.
Dreadnought cruiser.
As long as we are throwing around hypothetical dreadnoughts, here are 2 versions I made for a Mel Mini I got last November and have actually playtested a few times with a few title cards. They may possibly be overcosted, but I am fairly sure they are not undercosted. The idea was a mc30 type of cost, but focused on being able to absorb damage like a Vic and dish out decent damage if you flew well or upgraded. I made it a small base ship in this instance to avoid super Motti synergy. It was a personal project, so the base size is malleable but the MC30 is almost the exact same size, so it works for me. The idea is the Katana refit ditched the extra crew for automation, hence the version difference. This was a bit long winded, but the topic touched on a pet project of mine, so I figured I would gush for a bit.
Spelling and Clarification
On 5/16/2018 at 2:56 AM, Norsehound said:Lock it at speed 2 as well (no support slot), and introduce cards in the pack to help it with slow-play that can be back-ported to the VSD.
Yeah, that is a terrible idea. The vic would be usable if it could speed 3.