3 hours ago, bleachorange said:

Yeah, that is a terrible idea. The vic would be usable if it could speed 3.

Vic is plenty usable already

48 minutes ago, MandalorianMoose said:

Vic is plenty usable already

Yea only the Vic 2 I think. Vic1s are kinda ehhhh.

6 hours ago, TallGiraffe said:

Yea only the Vic 2 I think. Vic1s are kinda ehhhh.

Great for area denial. 7th fleet (depending on list), exrax and qbt under Vader=legit

14 hours ago, MandalorianMoose said:

Vic is plenty usable already

You CAN use a vic. But you have to work very very hard to do so. The ships have zero flexibility and thus you have to design your entire fleet around the platform. So, to me they are a failure of a ship. I havent used one in ages because of their lack of turning and their slow speed, they cannot react to anything the opponent does that you havent planned for. And if I have to run a certain admiral to make a certain ship work, that ship is a failure.

I love the Vic, almost as much as I love Demo. I am seriously thinking of running with one or two at the Euros.

a bigger glad

3 hours ago, Phil B said:

I love the Vic, almost as much as I love Demo. I am seriously thinking of running with one or two at the Euros.

Why not have both?

Skreed Triple D Full Frontal Shootity II
Author: Cynanbloodbane

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 400/400

Commander: Admiral Screed

Assault Objective: Advanced Gunnery
Defense Objective: Contested Outpost
Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory

[ flagship ] Imperial Star Destroyer Kuat Refit (112 points)
- Admiral Screed ( 26 points)
- Devastator ( 10 points)
- Strategic Adviser ( 4 points)
- Fire-Control Team ( 2 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- Heavy Ion Emplacements ( 9 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 177 total ship cost

Victory I-Class Star Destroyer (73 points)
- Dominator ( 12 points)
- Minister Tua ( 2 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- XX-9 Turbolasers ( 5 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 109 total ship cost

Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Demolisher ( 10 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 77 total ship cost

3 TIE Fighter Squadrons ( 24 points)
1 Valen Rudor ( 13 points)
= 37 total squadron cost

A little something I've been trying out.

@cynanbloodbane Don’t need to see the list; just the name alone is a winner.

There is also a glorious pucker factor from your opponent as you gather dice pools! The sheer violence of this fleet is not to be underestimated.

I recently ran 2 Vic IIs & a Vic 1 under Thrawn. Lost the game by a single dice roll ?.

They are very unforgiving of movement errors but they do hit fairly hard.

4 hours ago, ISD Avenger said:

I recently ran 2 Vic IIs & a Vic 1 under Thrawn. Lost the game by a single dice roll ?.

They are very unforgiving of movement errors but they do hit fairly hard.

Yeah, that is the weakness of the VSD!

On the up side, fly nothing but Vics for a while, and then switch to ISDs, and they practically dance for you!

Strike Cruiser that utilizes its modular design to provide multiple ship configurations:

- Assault Cruiser

- Skirmisher

- Carrier

- Command Cruiser

- Whatever else you could come up with

each different version would give you a different ship base configuration & upgrade slots fitting the modular theme

Skreed Brutality Mix XXX
Author: Chemosh667

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 398/400

Commander: Admiral Screed

Assault Objective: Advanced Gunnery
Defense Objective: Contested Outpost
Navigation Objective: Minefields

[ flagship ] Imperial Star Destroyer Kuat Refit (112 points)
- Admiral Screed ( 26 points)
- Avenger ( 5 points)
- Strategic Adviser ( 4 points)
- Hardened Bulkheads ( 5 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- Leading Shots ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 170 total ship cost

Victory I-Class Star Destroyer (73 points)
- Minister Tua ( 2 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- XI7 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
= 99 total ship cost

Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Demolisher ( 10 points)

- Intel Officer (7 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 82 total ship cost

Boba Fett ( 26 points)
IG-88 ( 21 points)
= 47 total squadron cost

On 5/29/2018 at 11:34 PM, MandalorianMoose said:

Vic is plenty usable already

On 5/30/2018 at 2:55 PM, Phil B said:

I love the Vic, almost as much as I love Demo. I am seriously thinking of running with one or two at the Euros.

Personally I dislike my 70+ point VSD being eaten alive by an XI7-equipped ISD-II even less, so I wouldn't put faith in the VSD.

I want to... but as long as large ships with huge batteries are vogue and XI7s exist, I keep foreseeing a situation when a VSD can do nothing to protect itself and has to eat damage.

On 5/31/2018 at 6:07 AM, cynanbloodbane said:

Yeah, that is the weakness of the VSD!

On the up side, fly nothing but Vics for a while, and then switch to ISDs, and they practically dance for you!

So ISDs are better than VSDs in maneuver? That's probably why people take them all the time over VSDs!

2 hours ago, Chemosh667 said:

Victory I-Class Star Destroyer (73 points)
- Minister Tua ( 2 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- XI7 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
= 99 total ship cost

The only way to fly a VSD is limiting yourself to 1 so you can take Tua. Without some effective defensive options to make them tank better, VSDs aren't worth it. It's a shame because in most respects, like attack power, they work just fine. But Defense and speed kill them.

2 minutes ago, Norsehound said:

Personally I dislike my 70+ point VSD being eaten alive by an XI7-equipped ISD-II even less, so I wouldn't put faith in the VSD.

I want to... but as long as large ships with huge batteries are vogue and XI7s exist, I keep foreseeing a situation when a VSD can do nothing to protect itself and has to eat damage.

So ISDs are better than VSDs in maneuver? That's probably why people take them all the time over VSDs!

The only way to fly a VSD is limiting yourself to 1 so you can take Tua. Without some effective defensive options to make them tank better, VSDs aren't worth it. It's a shame because in most respects, like attack power, they work just fine. But Defense and speed kill them.

Yes. It can be argued effectively Glads can be flown in pairs or threes (Insidious is a vicious title too. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE how brutal blue range black dice double arcs can be from it...), but VICs seem best either as one lone area denial or slow-boat brawler, or as a carrier with teeth (Vic-II w/ Gunnery Teams). At this point I see little justification for Raiders; I have been shifting to Decimators, bizarrely, as I am finding them to be a real menace to ships and fighters both, and for their points they tend to be far more effective than a single raider. I flew a list a few months ago that was Bossk, 4 Decimators, and IG-88, 3 glads w/ OE, ET, and ACM, with Jerjerr, against a Kuat Avenger+Demo+Tie Swarm list... Was bizarrely very effective. My usual combo is just an ISD (build and admiral varies) and Demo plus this mess of heavies nowadays.

...of course I also am known to fly 3 ISD's for fun and wreck stuff that way.

As to new Medium ship; Dreadnought. Slow, incredibly tough for size, middling cost. Should be comparable to VIC in maneuver maybe, but cheap, with medium broadside, mediocre front and piffle rear arc weapons, and low (maybe 1-2) squadron, decent Eng (3?). Maybe Brace, Brace, Redirect. Two defense retrofits? Be cool to see that on something other than the MC80 Assault Pickle...

On 5/31/2018 at 3:36 PM, strikenowhere said:

Strike Cruiser that utilizes its modular design to provide multiple ship configurations:

- Assault Cruiser

- Skirmisher

- Carrier

- Command Cruiser

- Whatever else you could come up with

each different version would give you a different ship base configuration & upgrade slots fitting the modular theme

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/275986-if-you-had-your-choice-to-pick-a-new-medium-imperial-ship-what-would-it-be/?do=findComment&comment=3336895

4 hours ago, DScipio said:

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/275986-if-you-had-your-choice-to-pick-a-new-medium-imperial-ship-what-would-it-be/?do=findComment&comment=3336895

Hah - I completely missed that post!