Scum Aces

By Wolfmanhays, in X-Wing

Rebels get improved Luke and Wedge.

Imperials get improved Vader.

Scum gets worse Fenn, (no PTL)

hopefully, they fix some of the other scum aces. I personally hope that Talonbane Cobra is usable. I.e. Fix the dial, increase his mobility. Also, I would like to see Boshek as an actual pilot on a ship.

What other scum Aces do you want to see improved and on the tables in 2.0

Boba Fett

Uhhh, Fenn got PTL baked into him. Now he can equip a different EPT without shame.

Fenn will be better, not worse. He has built in PTL, a built in better title, and an open talent slot.

1 minute ago, piznit said:

Boba Fett

Came here to say this. Boba got way better.

Talonbane! Fenn! Any other initiative 6 scum beside Dengar!?

Edit: Actually yeah, Fenn, Bane, Boba! Dammit, I had myself half convinced that I didn't need a scum conversion on day 1. Oh well.

Edited by gamblertuba

Boba Fett will be an unstoppable monster with Boost, Reinforce and a Medium Base (oh and he kept his pilot ability)

And I think that Fenn is getting as "nerfed" as Sontir and the rest of the top-tier aces.

3 minutes ago, AngryAlbatross said:

Boba Fett will be an unstoppable monster with Boost, Reinforce and a Medium Base (oh and he kept his pilot ability)

Just don’t forget that Reinforce has been changed, its not as powerful anymore.

Maybe Xizor can take Guri's mantle as best Starviper pilot? I imagine that they're going to clean up his ability text at the very least to make it usable.

13 minutes ago, Wolfmanhays said:

Rebels get improved Luke and Wedge.

Imperials get improved Vader.

Scum gets worse Fenn, (no PTL)

hopefully, they fix some of the other scum aces. I personally hope that Talonbane Cobra is usable. I.e. Fix the dial, increase his mobility. Also, I would like to see Boshek as an actual pilot on a ship.

What other scum Aces do you want to see improved and on the tables in 2.0

As stated fen gets Ptl backed in via linked actions.

Fenn’s title got buffed too.

Ok, yes there are linked interactions, but they are limited and must be done in a sequence. PTL gave you the freedom to choose. If an asteroid blocks the first part of the linked interaction, then you don't get the second. It is not as good. Plus from what I can tell, no improvement to the dial. I.e no 1 straight or bank. Meanwhile everyone else gets a better dial. I just don't see him as improved.

14 minutes ago, __underscore__ said:

Maybe Xizor can take Guri's mantle as best Starviper pilot? I imagine that they're going to clean up his ability text at the very least to make it usable.

Guri’s my jam. They better not make her worse! With TLT or harpoons not around, they could copy/paste Xizor and his ability into 2e and he should be alright.

1 minute ago, tortugatron said:

Fenn’s title got buffed too.

Fair.

The fact that Fett gained Boost innately and still has his reroll X for X number of enemy ships in range 1 in a game where innate die mods are going to be much rarer, hes going to be a problem assuming he isnt priced like a whale is fat for some stupid reason.

28 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:

Talonbane! Fenn! Any other initiative 6 scum beside Dengar!?

Edit: Actually yeah, Fenn, Bane, Boba! Dammit, I had myself half convinced that I didn't need a scum conversion on day 1. Oh well.

Crossing my fingers that's new point costs will allow for that exact list with at least some decent upgrades.

Boba flanked by Talon and Fenn sounds great

12 minutes ago, Wolfmanhays said:

Ok, yes there are linked interactions, but they are limited and must be done in a sequence. PTL gave you the freedom to choose. If an asteroid blocks the first part of the linked interaction, then you don't get the second. It is not as good. Plus from what I can tell, no improvement to the dial. I.e no 1 straight or bank. Meanwhile everyone else gets a better dial. I just don't see him as improved.

Because his dial did not need it. He allready has a modern dial with the modern manouvers.

In a world without Ptl ships with linked actions especially multiple linked actions are very strong because other ships don't have that option.

Better title and a backed in Ptl seems to point to fen getting better in 2.0 especially when you look at it in a 2.0 environment.

20 minutes ago, Wolfmanhays said:

Meanwhile everyone else gets a better dial.

Not necessarily everyone - the Falcon is losing those 1-hards after all and who knows what's going to happen to Jumpmasters. It's just that the ones we've seen so far are from the first waves and so were well behind the current curve.

1 minute ago, __underscore__ said:

Not necessarily everyone - the Falcon is losing those 1-hards after all and who knows what's going to happen to Jumpmasters. It's just that the ones we've seen so far are from the first waves and so were well behind the current curve.

That is why I am hopeful for Talonbane.

6 minutes ago, Icelom said:

Because his dial did not need it. He allready has a modern dial with the modern manouvers.

In a world without Ptl ships with linked actions especially multiple linked actions are very strong because other ships don't have that option.

Better title and a backed in Ptl seems to point to fen getting better in 2.0 especially when you look at it in a 2.0 environment.

I hope you are right.

Many early releases are getting better dials. (Notably not the TIE fighter or Lambda.) Protectorate already has a 2.0 dial. Green turns and T-rolls, what more do you want?

I don't think we fully understand what it means to move last and have access to boost or barrel roll in a world without 360 degree turrets.

already covered, but fenn's actually better

built in mini-ptl frees up EPT and Concordia is far easier to pull off

also Khirax got the X-wing treatment (+1 health and b-roll)

scum will be fine, bigger problem is Force being really good and scum not having a Luke/Vader equivalent yet

Edited by ficklegreendice
Just now, Wolfmanhays said:

That is why I am hopeful for Talonbane.

Of all the Scum ships I think the Sycks' dial makes me the most sad. They're called bloody Interceptors and can't go fast or boost!

19 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

The fact that Fett gained Boost innately and still has his reroll X for X number of enemy ships in range 1 in a game where innate die mods are going to be much rarer, hes going to be a problem assuming he isnt priced like a whale is fat for some stupid reason.

Designers have said that all high initiative pilots will pay a premium for it and since Boba is the highest, you can bet he will cost a lot too.

Fenn is quite high as well I've heard so you may still be able to fly a version of the Phil Classic, albeit with drastically different load-outs.