5 minutes ago, RunnerAZ said:

While I agree that there will be both types of tournaments, FFG will make the ones that count (a’la regionals) Wave 1 and maybe Wave 2. They don’t want new players to be kept out of the major tournaments, and they tend to cater to the casual/new players.

I think thats the first time i have heard that on the forums here...

All i hear on these forums is how FFG ignores the casual players to focus only on the hard core competitive players....

News to me.

But there will be a mix of tournaments, and i have a feeling in wave 1 scum is going to be extremely strong. both there wave one ships looks amazing. If you do not think Fett is going to do well against what is sure to be tie swarms (as imp only has 3 ships in wave 1) then i am not sure what to say. Not to mention the extreme damage output of Fen, scum should be extremely powerful for wave one.

Also i don't think fetts ability is outclassed by Luke and Vader, it always works is not reliant on having a bank of force tokens, you can use it multiple times every turn and never risk depleting it.

10 minutes ago, Icelom said:

I think thats the first time i have heard that on the forums here...

All i hear on these forums is how FFG ignores the casual players to focus only on the hard core competitive players....

News to me.

But there will be a mix of tournaments, and i have a feeling in wave 1 scum is going to be extremely strong. both there wave one ships looks amazing. If you do not think Fett is going to do well against what is sure to be tie swarms (as imp only has 3 ships in wave 1) then i am not sure what to say. Not to mention the extreme damage output of Fen, scum should be extremely powerful for wave one.

Also i don't think fetts ability is outclassed by Luke and Vader, it always works is not reliant on having a bank of force tokens, you can use it multiple times every turn and never risk depleting it.

To be fair, Luke can use his ability multiple times per turn (on defense) without risk of depleting it as well.

1 hour ago, ClassicalMoser said:

Actually, as far as we know, Fenn Rau is the only ship that can throw 5 dice. Full stop. In a world with fewer defenses, that's an insane amount of power. Don't worry about him; he'll be fine. Still definitely has his niche and had better be pretty pricey or he'll be pretty OP.

When Fenn focuses and boosts into range 1 of you:

BoShek could be a force user as well.

Fenn Rau was pure powercreep of Talonbane in 1.0 (That's why I refused to buy the Protectorate). Having Fenn in 2.0, I 'd guess we do not get Talonbane at all, or with a radically different pilot ability. They are too similar.

I hope they keep Victor Hel, he is really fun to fly.

For the Scyk I would really like if FFG keeps Sunny Bounder and Genesis Red.

19 minutes ago, Managarmr said:

BoShek could be a force user as well.

Fenn Rau was pure powercreep of Talonbane in 1.0 (That's why I refused to buy the Protectorate). Having Fenn in 2.0, I 'd guess we do not get Talonbane at all, or with a radically different pilot ability. They are too similar.

I hope they keep Victor Hel, he is really fun to fly.

For the Scyk I would really like if FFG keeps Sunny Bounder and Genesis Red .

As has been said about a million times on these forums, it's not power creep to make a new ship (or pilot) that's better than an old one that wasn't good in the first place. If talonbane had been a top tier competitive pilot and fenn rau came out and was massively better, THAT would be power creep. Fenn is just what talonbane SHOULD have been.

Agreed on Sunny though.

Just now, VanderLegion said:

As has been said about a million times on these forums, it's not power creep to make a new ship (or pilot) that's better than an old one that wasn't good in the first place. If talonbane had been a top tier competitive pilot and fenn rau came out and was massively better, THAT would be power creep. Fenn is just what talonbane SHOULD have been.

Agreed on Sunny though.

I will not make excuse for Talonbane Cobra, I will simple state

Talonbane Cobra doesn't do what Talonbane Cobra does for Talonbane Cobra. Talonbane Cobra does what Talonbane Cobra does because Talonbane Cobra is ...Talonbane Cobra

26 minutes ago, Wolfmanhays said:

I will not make excuse for Talonbane Cobra, I will simple state

Talonbane Cobra doesn't do what Talonbane Cobra does for Talonbane Cobra. Talonbane Cobra does what Talonbane Cobra does because Talonbane Cobra is ...Talonbane Cobra

1 hour ago, wurms said:

When Fenn focuses and boosts into range 1 of you:

with predator*

yeah, Fenn's going to be mighty strong

and while scum probably doesn't have support capabilities (manny?) due to faction identity, any sort of further buffs tossed onto Fenn will make him an absolute monster

Fenn, Dalan M12, Talonbane, Guri, Jostero, Torani M12, Sycks, etc. We dont know whats good until we know more about the small base aces.

30 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

with predator*

yeah, Fenn's going to be mighty strong

and while scum probably doesn't have support capabilities (manny?) due to faction identity, any sort of further buffs tossed onto Fenn will make him an absolute monster

If you're aiming for the range 1 shots, you may well be better off with fearless. Changing a die to a hit is better than rerolling a die. Doesn't do anything for you at longer range of course.

fearlessness is a bit worse, though

has to be primary arc of both ships and it changes a result instead of adding

4 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

fearlessness is a bit worse, though

has to be primary arc of both ships and it changes a result instead of adding

I do expect primary arcs to probably be more common in 2e, though there'll still be plenty of mobile turrets around I'm sure.

32 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

fearless is a bit worse, though

has to be primary arc of both ships and it changes a result instead of adding

FIFY

3 hours ago, VanderLegion said:

I do expect primary arcs to probably be more common in 2e, though there'll still be plenty of mobile turrets around I'm sure.

This is as it should be, I think. Turreted ships shouldn't be made completely useless (who doesn't like the Millennium Falcon, after all?), but neither should they absolutely dominate non-turreted ships. I don't want to see any ship weakened to the point of uselessness; just brought into line so that other play styles can be just as viable.

9 hours ago, Wolfmanhays said:

They don't need one, but they are gonna feel pretty bad, because they don't have one.

Hey, we don't know what Zuckuss's dial is gonna be yet! He might count!

... with 1 agility. Ahem.

6 hours ago, Wolfmanhays said:

So Rebels get U-wing, X-wing, Y-wing

imperials get Tie Advanced and Tie Fighters

Scum gets Firespray and Protectorate. For a tournament.

Hmm. There will be a substantial amount of variance in the builds. It actually sounds like a really boring tournament. Hopefully wave 2 is announced and released soon.

If the rebels get the u wing, imps get the reaper.

It doesn't make sense otherwise.

10 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

If the rebels get the u wing, imps get the reaper.

It doesn't make sense otherwise.

True. But... Scum left a ship short again. ?

29 minutes ago, Wolfmanhays said:

True. But... Scum left a ship short again. ?

s'all good, the new Fangs and Spray seem really strong

quality > quantity, etc.

EDIT: hold the **** up

Y-wings are scum, too

guess they're not technically wave 1?

29 minutes ago, Wolfmanhays said:

True. But... Scum left a ship short again. ?

Largest faction after conversion....

15 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

s'all good, the new Fangs and Spray seem really strong

quality > quantity, etc.

EDIT: hold the **** up

Y-wings are scum, too

guess they're not technically wave 1?

I doubt we get a separate scum ywing reprint, so maybe it’ll be scum legal for wave 1 for scum too?

probably not if it's limited to wave 1 products (+ core) only

which it probably is since it's more new player friendly and pushes more sales of new stock

on the other hand, the Y would have to be pretty good to compete with what the fang and spray seem capable of

7 hours ago, Managarmr said:

For the Scyk I would really like if FFG keeps Sunny Bounder and Genesis Red.   

Sunny is way too much fun. If they get rid of her I will be a very sad panda..

36 minutes ago, Aaron Foss said:

Sunny is way too much fun. If they get rid of her I will be a very sad panda..

It's unlikely that they will be switched. There isn't many canon pilots in those things.

Zuckuss!!!! 4-Lom!!! Manaroo!!! Yay!!! ?

14 hours ago, AngryAlbatross said:

Boba Fett will be an unstoppable monster with Boost, Reinforce and a Medium Base (oh and he kept his pilot ability)

Don't forget about the dial! It's way better!