So, we know that The Resistance and the First Order are both getting their own era-specific factions; thus splitting out T-70s and TIE/FOs and their brethren from their venerable lists. Okay, fair enough.

I understand that Scum and Villainy will, however, retain the Quadjumper.

You think they'll just happily let Scum and Villainy get more new trilogy ships as time goes by, or is the Quadjumper just going to be the one and only quirky exception to the era split, wherein they avoid releasing any new ones? Or will they just release enough over time, then have a Villainy And Scum faction (totally different to Scum and Villainy we swear) and split the Quadjumper out accordingly?

This is a really good question. I think the issue with splitting right now is it'd just be the Quadjumper. We could go along the same train of thought with the E-Wing and K-Wing being Rebel since both are EU New Republic craft. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. With Resistance coming out soon, maybe it’ll get a large enough pool to do this, but right now... doubtful.

No idea, it's certainly interesting.

I think now scum and villainy is a bit of a catch all. I bet they just keep going from all eras. They were running out of stuff for them anyways, getting more and more obscure.

Scum will always be scum?

Doesn’t matter if it’s just after ROTS, or after the battle of Crait, if it’s space worthy I’m pretty sure some pirate will fly it.

We have The Resistance animated TV show coming out soon and Jon Favreau's live action TV show being set after ROTJ coming out soon after that. Both will potentially have some ST era pirate ships to add to the game. However I think they will just continue to be Scum, there is no reason to split Scum by era. I think if they do give us another faction that is scum related, it will be something along the lines of a smugglers and scoundrels faction. That would more accurately diversify the current members of the Scum faction in a meaningful way.

The easiest solution would be to just invert the colors on the faction symbol of the quadjumper pilot cards.

This is essentially what they did with rebel and resistance cards. It means nothing other than "stylistic difference" right now, but if they wanted to split scum sometime down the road, that could be the reference point to do it.

20 minutes ago, BVRCH said:

We have The Resistance animated TV show coming out soon and Jon Favreau's live action TV show being set after ROTJ coming out soon after that. Both will potentially have some ST era pirate ships to add to the game. However I think they will just continue to be Scum, there is no reason to split Scum by era. I think if they do give us another faction that is scum related, it will be something along the lines of a smugglers and scoundrels faction. That would more accurately diversify the current members of the Scum faction in a meaningful way.

I could see Favreau's show giving us more stuff leaning towards the OT era than the ST era. Timewise it takes place closer to Jedi than it does to TFA. And it's long before the resistance actually started. For rebel/resistance it actually puts them in an awkward spot. After the rebellion becomes the New Republic, but before the Resistance starts fighting the FO. Not that the timeline really matters as far as S&V since they don't have a separate faction for ST, though it could affect whether they get tech slots or not.

8 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

I could see Favreau's show giving us more stuff leaning towards the OT era than the ST era. Timewise it takes place closer to Jedi than it does to TFA. And it's long before the resistance actually started. For rebel/resistance it actually puts them in an awkward spot. After the rebellion becomes the New Republic, but before the Resistance starts fighting the FO. Not that the timeline really matters as far as S&V since they don't have a separate faction for ST, though it could affect whether they get tech slots or not.

Whilst yes its closer to the OT chronologically, its 7 years after the battle of Yavin so it'll be new stuff for us as an audience. It will most likely be New Republic stories and I consider the OT to cover the Galactic Civil War. So in terms of any new ships we've not seen before in GCW coming from Favreau's show, they'd be in the same boat as the Quadjumper.

32 minutes ago, BVRCH said:

Whilst yes its closer to the OT chronologically, its 7 years after the battle of Yavin so it'll be new stuff for us as an audience. It will most likely be New Republic stories and I consider the OT to cover the Galactic Civil War. So in terms of any new ships we've not seen before in GCW coming from Favreau's show, they'd be in the same boat as the Quadjumper.

I've seen conflicting reports about the timing. The tweet from Dan Casey says 7 years after the battle of endor, but I see others that say it's actually 7 years after the battle of YAVIN, and 3 years after RotJ.

2 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

I've seen conflicting reports about the timing. The tweet from Dan Casey says 7 years after the battle of endor, but I see others that say it's actually 7 years after the battle of YAVIN, and 3 years after RotJ.

I think we're straying from the original topic.

Either way, its going to be new for us, and can't all be tied in with the GCW. Some of it will, some of it won't.

P.S. I would personally prefer it end up being 7 after Endor, I think that's a juicier piece of the timeline to work with.

In my opinion quadjumper should be moved to resistance or should get its own quadjumper faction. Just for the sake of being consistent.

The thing is that with Walt Disney going forward, the Resistance and First Order ships will just keep increasing in numbers, so it makes sense to split them up as a faction. Scum wise, we had to dig into "legends" for a lot of the ships that we have with many of those ships having never even appeared in movies. With that in mind, I don't think there is enough material do get hyped about in order to split the Scum into 2 factions.

Introducing another faction like the Seperatist droid army or something else is possible, but I doubt that they would split the scum faction into something else.

14 hours ago, Reiver said:

So, we know that The Resistance and the First Order are both getting their own era-specific factions; thus splitting out T-70s and TIE/FOs and their brethren from their venerable lists. Okay, fair enough.

I understand that Scum and Villainy will, however, retain the Quadjumper.

You think they'll just happily let Scum and Villainy get more new trilogy ships as time goes by, or is the Quadjumper just going to be the one and only quirky exception to the era split, wherein they avoid releasing any new ones? Or will they just release enough over time, then have a Villainy And Scum faction (totally different to Scum and Villainy we swear) and split the Quadjumper out accordingly?

Not sure why they'd split Scum era-wise, when Scum is a catch-all faction that isn't really tied to a particular era. Empires and Rebellions come and go; there is always a seedy underside to the galaxy if you know where to look for it.

If you're going to split Scum it shouldn't be by era, it should be by... well, faction, as in an independent military (i.e. Mandalorian) faction, a smuggler's faction, a bounty hunting faction, etc. I'd rather they just left it as is, however, because I think Scum is good where it is without splitting it into a bunch of micro-factions.

The Quadjumper is in a weird place because it is the only Scum ship we see on-screen in the ST, unless we're going to get something weird from TLJ. But I don't think that means much, because we also only ever actually saw one Scum ship in the OT, and there are tons of OT-era Scum ships in X-wing. There's definitely going to be more ST-era Scum ships in the future, the cartoon series makes this an inevitability.

Given time, it it theoretically possible to break scum into different factions - Black Sun, Bounty Hunters, Broken Horn Syndicate, etc.

I am not advocating this mind you, these factions tend to be a lot smaller, and have a limited number of ships shown to us, but it is a possibility. Just not one for the immediate future.

Personally, I rationalize the Quadjumper in saying it is an older design, thus was around during the OT time period, and the one in TFA was just a well maintained relic. Freely admit that I am just handwaving.

For me, the only logical split for anything in the s&v is by affiliation (such as the Hutt Cartels and Black Sun).

But most scum are unaffiliated, so then there's have to be a bunch of crossover for bounty hunters like Fett.

I wouldn't expect a split anytime soon.

I'd hope that if they ever considered splitting S&V into factions, they would instead utilize a new type of card which limits squad-building to affiliations.

So you'd have the Black Sun affiliation card, and this would limit you to Starvipers, Khiraxz, Y-Wing, z95, etc. And since the app can be updated easily, the text of the card will just say, "You're limited to Black Sun ships only" and the app determines what that means, allowing additional ships added later (like the Ixiyen, Rihkxyrk, or the *giggle* Supa Fighter). Then you should get some kind of bonus for using ships that are only allowed in the affiliation.

Affiliation cards would work fairly well in other factions as well, such as for specifying fighter squadrons or maybe something like ISB.

3 hours ago, Ravenhull said:

Personally, I rationalize the Quadjumper in saying it is an older design, thus was around during the OT time period, and the one in TFA was just a well maintained relic. Freely admit that I am just handwaving.

This.

Plus Sarco Plank dates back to the OT time period so the quadjumper being an older design is a comfortable assumption in my mind too.

First appearance is in 34 BBY but the ship certainly feels like the kind of thing that's been in use for quite some time, like the Y-Wing feels in ANH.

And lets face it, we saw it parked on Jakku. Not exactly where you see the newest stuff...

When Resistance and FO conversion kits drop, I demand a tournament that only allows Resistance, FO or Quadjumper lists.

7 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:

When Resistance and FO conversion kits drop, I demand a tournament that only allows Resistance, FO or Quadjumper lists.

Tugboat heroes!

Quadjumper doesn't really fit anywhere if i'm honest and just seems like it was used because there was nothing else they could tie into the Force Awakens wave from a scum perspective. I mean, the Falcon with Unkarr as a pilot has more sense. .

One thing I am highly expecting for the little jumper is that the Space Tug Tractor Array becomes a bolted on ability and perhaps happen as a free action when you arrive within range 1 of someone. This would reduce the cost (from a version 1 perspective) and free up the modification slot (again, from a version 1 perspective).

Not sure this will help it see table time outside of casual and mission play but then again, not everything needs to be tier 1 competitive.

I just hope that in 2nd edition we'll start to see the untapped potential of the Quadjumper that we saw in the film shine through.

19 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

I just hope that in 2nd edition we'll start to see the untapped potential of the Quadjumper that we saw in the film shine through.

Here:

This is not the SAME quadjumper, but a second one (different paint scheme, other parking place, this is BB8 mere seconds before the explosion of the Quadjumper standing freely in the open above).

So there you have your untapped potential, Quadjumper 2.0

Btw, it does not lack much in 1.0 to be really good. Ideas were discussed e.g. here recently