So I'm guessing (rather hoping) that Jawas, sand people, and Wompas are never part of some non-sensical scum faction for legion.

Legion is war. no sane person takes Jawas to a storm trooper fight.

But these cool characters should be a part of the game and I think they they would work perfectly as neutral battlefield conditions or objectives packs.

Wondering monsters are a mechanic in lots of miniatures games. just like how these characters are road blocks or obstacles in the galactic civil war they should be the same in legion.

What does sanity have to do with war? I love me some Jawa bombs.

What you currently can do is use the imperial assault Jawas and other figures are part of the terrain, which can be used as objectives as well. Maybe one objective is secure the Jawa droid trading post. These things can be created now and played that way. As FFG releases more objective packs, they can be further customized.

I am not sure about NPC hostiles though. We don't have rules for them and most people would rather not complicate the game. With that said, some Imperial Assault skirmish maps do have some of those elements, so it has been done before.

I would love to see a Ranchor or Wampa that roams through the battlefield and can disrupt engagement and cause general chaos.

I've suggested this before. A pack like the priority targets with a creature like the nexu that wanders around an objective attacking whatever gets close.

Yes please.

The rules for neutral units don’t have to be that complicated.

In set up the unit is placed on the board and each round it’s given a stand by token. Either player may trigger the use of the standby token.

@TylerTT In regards to your title:

"Everyone asks what is space monster, but no-one asks why is space monster?"

On 5/11/2018 at 10:45 PM, Chucknuckle said:

Yes please.

A Rancor would be next level. Even if it was a neutral hostile and wiped out half my dudes, I wouldn't be mad because there'd be a freaking Rancor on the field. Same with things like Nexus and Acklays.

Honestly FFG could use "centerpiece" models for this game, like what GW does for 40k, and the creatures of Star Wars would be a great fit. Especially if they really want to appeal to the hobbyists who enjoy star wars AND painting.

I can see the rancor releasing if/when the scum faction comes out. That could be the counter part to the ATST and T-47. A man can dream :)

Unfortunately I think FFG are blinkered by competitive play, so they'd be struggling with a way to implement something like a rancor. I personally love the idea of a wild rancor just attacking whatever unit happens to be closest, or playing scenarios where the rancor is released from its pen during the battle, or whatever, but I think FFG would see that as unbalanced and not something they'd bother creating a model for.

There is no reason why a neutral model would be un balanced. Place it in the center of the board and if you don’t want to mess with it then just avoid it. But it should offer a risk and a reward.

Post ROTJ there are frenge forces like the pirate queen that steals an SSD so it’s not impossible for a third faction to enter the game while still in the civil war era but I still really doubt sand people and Jawas make any sense in that situation.

2 minutes ago, TylerTT said:

There is no reason why a neutral model would be un balanced. Place it in the center of the board and if you don’t want to mess with it then just avoid it. But it should offer a risk and a reward.

Post ROTJ there are frenge forces like the pirate queen that steals an SSD so it’s not impossible for a third faction to enter the game while still in the civil war era but I still really doubt sand people and Jawas make any sense in that situation.

It's more like, who is going to buy the model? Player A or player B? Why would either player waste dollars on a model that will hurt them as much as help them?

I mean I get it, because it's cool and thematic and Star Wars. But FFG are very focused on tournament style games, almost to the exclusion of all else. So faced with the cost of developing, producing and shipping a big model like a rancor, that has very little tournament application, I think they'd balk.

But I think AMT did one many years ago which might be the right scale, so we could always homebrew something

They already green lit a box for moisture vaporators.

i think a rancor mission pack would do well

2 hours ago, Chucknuckle said:

It's more like, who is going to buy the model? Player A or player B? Why would either player waste dollars on a model that will hurt them as much as help them?

I mean I get it, because it's cool and thematic and Star Wars. But FFG are very focused on tournament style games, almost to the exclusion of all else. So faced with the cost of developing, producing and shipping a big model like a rancor, that has very little tournament application, I think they'd balk.

But I think AMT did one many years ago which might be the right scale, so we could always homebrew something

Not trying to argue with you as I agree with what you're saying- but using the same logic, if you're playing the objective cards with the moisture vaporators - who buys that model pack? With only 3 cards with some vaporators and boxes for $25, its not terribly exciting. Sure it adds some variation and nice pieces to put on the table but if neither player has it, then you just dont play it. Same would go for a rancor pack where it tries to kill both factions' units. It could be a tournament thing if they wanted.

I think the additional creatures that wouldn't fit any faction would fit well as models in objectives packs- things like "protect the Jawas" or "escort the Ewoks" stuff like that. Plus the new cards added could be related to the kit, like if its a "Tatooine" objective box, conditions could be a dust storm thats a different variation of "limited visibility" or if from Hoth there's a snow/ice storm where all vehicles get one less action until round 3 or whatever.

3 hours ago, TylerTT said:

There is no reason why a neutral model would be un balanced. Place it in the center of the board and if you don’t want to mess with it then just avoid it. But it should offer a risk and a reward.

Post ROTJ there are frenge forces like the pirate queen that steals an SSD so it’s not impossible for a third faction to enter the game while still in the civil war era but I still really doubt sand people and Jawas make any sense in that situation.

Yes but that was in the Aftermath Series. They were trash. I still do want a rancor though

Ewoks I think could work really well as part of the rebel army.

They just need a rule that prevents them from getting orders assigned to them in the command card phase. given they are allies of the rebels but not part of their command structure.

Totally true, and I had forgotten about the Vaporators box.