3 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

The turret gunner wouldn’t do anything on an sf anyway

Not in this case... But that icon could be there for any upgrade slot. It's a nice way of restricting certain things before they become problematic.

For example: You want a strong ordnance carrier, but you don't want ships with turrets to equip it? Slap a front arc icon on it. Done

It does make me wonder if the TIE phantom will get a gunner slot as well.

2 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

It does make me wonder if the TIE phantom will get a gunner slot as well.

With the removal of the 4th attack dice, it could be warranted.

And it would be okay if there was a gunner for front arc ships. The B-Wing would like that as well, if it has the slot for it

57 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

It does make me wonder if the TIE phantom will get a gunner slot as well.

Hopefully it gets something. The loss of the 4th attack die combined with the loss of FCS is going to hurt its offense a lot compared to its 1.0 version.

Don't forget that the "upgrade bar" is no longer on the cards. The upgrade slots will be provided by the app - which means they can be adjusted as well. It's possible there will be ways to do things like pay one cost to get one set of upgrade slots, and a different cost to get a different set - this would be a way to handle the Xg-1 vs Os-1 versions of the Gunboat, for example.

At the very least, they've already mentioned that they'll be able to change the upgrade bar on ships over time via the app, so whatever upgrade bars the ships get at launch of 2.0 aren't set in stone.

2 hours ago, Freeptop said:

Don't forget that the "upgrade bar" is no longer on the cards. The upgrade slots will be provided by the app - which means they can be adjusted as well. It's possible there will be ways to do things like pay one cost to get one set of upgrade slots, and a different cost to get a different set - this would be a way to handle the Xg-1 vs Os-1 versions of the Gunboat, for example.

At the very least, they've already mentioned that they'll be able to change the upgrade bar on ships over time via the app, so whatever upgrade bars the ships get at launch of 2.0 aren't set in stone.

The gunboat is going to use either titles or configurations, as there is rules text associated with each of the options.

I doubt they're going to do anything interesting with the upgrade bars, they just wanted a tool so that they have a way to easily tinker with ships post release.

2 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

The gunboat is going to use either titles or configurations, as there is rules text associated with each of the options.

I doubt they're going to do anything interesting with the upgrade bars, they just wanted a tool so that they have a way to easily tinker with ships post release.

Are there titles in 2.0? I assumed not cause most of them where fixes and now all the old titles abilities I have seen were baked into the ship card.

3 minutes ago, Andreu said:

Are there titles in 2.0? I assumed not cause most of them where fixes and now all the old titles abilities I have seen were baked into the ship card.

The Firespray has a new title, so it looks like UNIQUE titles will survive but any ‘fix’ generic titles will be rolled into the pilot cards.

We have both Titles which seem to be back for mostly unique ships and the new "Configuration", which includes stuff like Pivot Wing, Servomotor S-foils, etc, any ship which has common configurations but multiples of them - I suspect if they carry over, elements like TIE/x7 vs TIE/D or the two StarWing configurations would be covered here. TIE Shuttle could also be seen as a configuration - it's got a pretty good mechanical outline which just adds utility, not necessarily is a "fix". Cost reducing stuff like Chaardan, SV MK II and Renegade will probably be lost.

8 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

The Firespray has a new title, so it looks like UNIQUE titles will survive but any ‘fix’ generic titles will be rolled into the pilot cards.

The titles are also just that, names of ships. Millennium Falcon, Slave I, Marauder, etc.

2 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

The titles are also just that, names of ships. Millennium Falcon, Slave I, Marauder, etc.

Is Black One the name of the ship, or the call sign of Poe?

2 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:

Is Black One the name of the ship, or the call sign of Poe?

Yes.

43 minutes ago, Squark said:

Yes.

Then I want Red Leader and Red Five for xwings

Gunner/crew upgrades are a good way of separating offensive/defensive upgrades so you can't stack em for maximum benefit on the same ship

39 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Gunner/crew upgrades are a good way of separating offensive/defensive upgrades so you can't stack em for maximum benefit on the same ship

It also helps differentiating support and combat vessels. Support ships won't get gunners.

1 hour ago, Commander Kaine said:

It also helps differentiating support and combat vessels. Support ships won't get gunners.

The Firespray doesn't have a gunner slot.

1 minute ago, HolySorcerer said:

The Firespray doesn't have a gunner slot.

Unless ep 2 boba yelling "get him, dad! Fire!"constitutes a gunner

4 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

The Firespray doesn't have a gunner slot. 

It does if you add the Marauder title, I think.

1 minute ago, UnitOmega said:

It does if you add the Marauder title, I think.

Yup, which is extremely strong evidence that the base chassis and other titles don't have one.

I wonder. If BTL-a4 isn’t a title anymore, will we have a Y-Wing specific mod to lock the turret either forward or backward?

7 minutes ago, sf1raptor said:

I wonder. If BTL-a4 isn’t a title anymore, will we have a Y-Wing specific mod to lock the turret either forward or backward?

Why would you want to when you can run Vet Turret Gunner?

20 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

Why would you want to when you can run Vet Turret Gunner?

Just for another way to fly Y-Wings. Basically make the forward lock like the current BTL-a4 title, and make rear lock like an auxiliary arc. Also have it cost you the gunners seat.

3 minutes ago, sf1raptor said:

Just for another way to fly Y-Wings. Basically make the forward lock like the current BTL-a4 title, and make rear lock like an auxiliary arc. Also have it cost you the gunners seat.

Can't you just buy a turret and leave it pointed rear? You're basically asking for a worse Y-Wing, presumably at a discount. FFG has been moving away from selling slots for discounts, so I wouldn't count on this.

1 minute ago, HolySorcerer said:

Can't you just buy a turret and leave it pointed rear? You're basically asking for a worse Y-Wing, presumably at a discount. FFG has been moving away from selling slots for discounts, so I wouldn't count on this.

I see your point. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

4 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:

Is Black One the name of the ship, or the call sign of Poe?

No, Poe is Black Leader. The ship is Black one.

16 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

The gunboat is going to use either titles or configurations, as there is rules text associated with each of the options.

I doubt they're going to do anything interesting with the upgrade bars, they just wanted a tool so that they have a way to easily tinker with ships post release.

GUNBOAT Will almost certainly use configurations for the old titles, they are literally different configurations of weapons on the ship.