Just now, Animewarsdude said:You know I'll see you one better, I feel a whole bunch of films made nowdays could have an hour or so cut out without much harm. What happened to having 90 minute films be the norm? I know it is still used for animated ones but generally it seems most live action flicks have to at minimum be 2 hours if not longer.
Every new live action movie is trying to reinvent the wheel and considers themselves extremely important.
3 minutes ago, Hobojebus said:For the record I'm centre left or classical liberal, I think alt left and alt right are both terrible.
Alt-left isn’t a thing, it’s just a term the alt-right use to imply a false equivalence. It’s a give-away term, like political correctness; people who you’d accuse of believing in it don’t actually use it, only their detractors do, on the hole.
7 hours ago, Schu81 said:But the way some people are "discussing" here seems more like they would rather not want to hear anything about that.
First, you are not discussing when you present your opinion as the truth.
Second, yes, we don't want to hear anything about TLJ. At least not in this thread.
3 hours ago, VanderLegion said:This is my biggest issue with the ST. Ive enjoyed both movies as movies, despite flaws, but from what I’ve seen/read, there’s NO overall plan for the trilogy. How do you spend billions of dollars on a franchise, decide to make a new trilogy, and NOT plan out the main points of the story and just let each director do whatever?
I find this disturbing too.
52 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:You know I'll see you one better, I feel a whole bunch of films made nowdays could have an hour or so cut out without much harm. What happened to having 90 minute films be the norm? I know it is still used for animated ones but generally it seems most live action flicks have to at minimum be 2 hours if not longer.
Totally agree on that point. Avengers Infinity War seemed to last an infinity.
34 minutes ago, Odanan said:I find this disturbing too.
Perhaps it’ll all make sense in the end and we’ll realise that everything that has transpired has done so according to Kennedy’s design.
Edited by mazz04 hours ago, Frimmel said:Has he "leaked" that treatment or whatever exists of that yet? Has anyone tried to piece it together from various interviews and such?
No, we only know that he handed them over and that was the last of it. We get occasional bits of info one way or the other about how certain things were in his drafts in the concept art books.
48 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:Totally agree on that point. Avengers Infinity War seemed to last an infinity.
Eh, personal opinion but I felt that it was a fun ride. That said it does have tone issues like most MCU films.
35 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:Some fanbois see Kathleen Kennedy as a “SJW” (social justice warrior) and resent that there are speaking parts for women in the sequels let alone the lead role.
I do have issues with Kathleen Kennedy, but I'm not going there, don't want to get into any kind of political matters preferably.
I don't have an issue with women in lead roles, I just wish they were written better. Phasma, despite having a real cool actress behind her, gets completely shafted in the films despite based off her book being pretty interesting. Holdo is made a complete and utter point of contention for many due to plot contrivance to create the drama between her and Poe. Rey, I love her introduction scene in TFA but she does seem to master the force effortlessly and can do stuff (Pilot the falcon, 360 no scope 3 ties first time firing the guns) without any real explanation (in the films) and is just sort of bland. At least in my opinion. Jyn and the majority of Rogue One's cast is sort of meh aside from K2, Baze, and Chirrut. I loved Mara Jade in the old canon and would like to see WELL WRITTEN characters men, and women in the films.
Basically, give me good movies with characters I can cheer for who go through strife, grow and are enjoyable and I'll fork my cash over gladly.
Edited by AnimewarsdudeNO! We stop here.
No politics.
This a thread about the movie Solo!
I contributed to the derailment with TLJ talk but no more...
Okay one more then I'm really done.
16 minutes ago, mazz0 said:Perhaps it’ll all make sense in the end and we’ll realise that everything that has transpired has done so according to Kennedy’s design.
I don't blame Kathleen Kennedy, I blame JJ.
He created a lot of loose ends that he never intended to resolve.
It was his job to frame the trilogy and he didnt. That's hardly on Kennedy.
Edited by ForrestoSo, back to Solo.
i hope that the guys playing Han, Lando and Chewie aren’t just doing impressions but are actually acting and bringing these characters to life in ways we haven’t seen. I haven’t heard anything about bad or disappointing acting or out of character moments so far, just that the movie is slow to start but ramps up after the first half hour or so and is a fun little romp. So I’m not expecting award winning stuff but it sounds consistent with your average summer popcorn movie.
Still, I hope to be surprised in a good way when ever I go to see a new SW movie. At least there is probably not that much standing and talking, sitting and talking, walking and talking, etc.
also giant space tentacle monster.
1 hour ago, Forresto said:NO! We stop here.
No politics.
This a thread about the movie Solo!
I contributed to the derailment with TLJ talk but no more...
Okay one more then I'm really done.
I don't blame Kathleen Kennedy, I blame JJ.
He created a lot of loose ends that he never intended to resolve.
It was his job to frame the trilogy and he didnt. That's hardly on Kennedy.
Man, this thread went places while I was away.
1 hour ago, Nyxen said:Man, this thread went places while I was away.
1 hour ago, Nyxen said:Man, this thread went places while I was away.
2 hours ago, Nyxen said:Man, this thread went places while I was away.
8 minutes ago, Commander Kaine said:But what about mah peace freedom justice and security?
The Empire is glad to provide those, as America hasn't been invented yet.
On 5/12/2018 at 6:51 PM, Commander Kaine said:Eh... Thats a weird point to draw a line at. Star wars is and always was a mythic story. It's a fairy tale in space. It doesn't matter, because space is not there to evoke the feeling of realism. It is the unknown... You don't know how it works, because you are not supposed to. It's the story that matters.
it was a mythic story that had a distinct rule set, much like lord of the rings or hary potter. the story was good, but the world building made the story great.
TLJ was garbage because the story was bad and the directing did it no favors. incoherent character motivation, bizarre pacing and tone, contradictory world building which lacked internal consistancy, horrendous editing, nonsense events/scenarios. instead of magic and flights of fancy we got a dozen self referential short films written by commitee and edited into some sort of fan fiction super reel.
On 5/12/2018 at 4:59 AM, markcsoul said:So I've been avoiding major Solo spoilers for the most part, but this one that just came out about a certain character cameo in the movie is soooo awesome.
The character is:
Maul! - Played by Ray Park and voiced by Sam Witmer
Seriously? Where did that come up?
54 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:it was a mythic story that had a distinct rule set, much like lord of the rings or hary potter. the story was good, but the world building made the story great.
TLJ was garbage-
This is a SOLO topic, dammit!
Edited by Captain Lackwit1 hour ago, Vontoothskie said:we got a dozen self referential short films written by com mitee and edited into some sort of fan fiction super r e e l.
This....is unfortunately what Studio Films become when novice or intimidated directors allow it. It’s not just SW that I’ve seen this trend.
however I still think there’s quite a bit to be salvaged from TLJ. But I’m afraid Solo will succumb to the Commitee as well, here’s hoping Opie was a strong enough director to defy the focus groups and actually deliver something to watch.
The fact he reshot 90% of the movie but never does more than two takes implies to me they just wanted the film finished so they could try to recoup something from the opening weekend rather than make a good film.
And the fact all the "reviews" use the same wording like calling it a blast says to me they were given marching orders instead of allowed to post real thoughts.
9 hours ago, Odanan said:Second, yes, we don't want to hear anything about TLJ.
At least not in this thread. EVER AGAIN.
FTFY.
46 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:FTFY.
Then don't talk about Star Wars online.
And stop trying to divert this to TLJ! ****, guys!
6 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:Then don't talk about Star Wars online.
And stop trying to divert this to TLJ! ****, guys!
don't worry captain, I've got a plan
HEY GUYS I heard they COMPLETELY reshot EVERY SINGLE SCENE of TLJ! They fixed the storyline so that now it's a heist movie featuring a young Han Solo and Lando Calrissian, and a (somewhat younger) Chewie is there too! THEY EVEN CHANGED THE NAME. We should talk exhaustively about this fancy new reshoot and not bring up anything else for the remainder of this thread!!!
there. that oughta do it
14 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:Then don't talk about Star Wars online.
And stop trying to divert this to TLJ! ****, guys!
We can't help it - like a cat hawking out a furball, you keep bringing it up!
5 hours ago, Commander Kaine said:Refusing to listen to a bunch of people because of one word they use doesn't seem very enlightened.
And while we are at it, I've heard the term "alt right" describe anything from literal Nazis, to internet trolls and basically anyone who doesn't agree with leftist identity politics.
Seems like broad strokes to me.
Also, I could definitely see people who are falsely identitied as alt right see it as a give away word, like you see political correctness.
Do you mean all those people by that word? I don't know. But there are people who do, and I think if you honestly examine that claim, you will find it disingenuous.
The radical left doesn't exist as the radical right does. But it does not mean that there aren't serious problems with leftist ideology, or that anyone with concerns about it is alt right.
Who’s refusing to listen to someone?
Unlike alt-left, alt-right is a term people apply to themselves. That’s up to them.
3 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:
This is a SOLO topic, dammit!
We haven’t seen Solo yet! What’s to talk about?