hi all,

me again with another bit of list building, last night I ran my Triple G1's (see the other thread) and a double Starviper + Fenn lost vs my friends Kylo+Quickdraw+Omega leader list. Now the triple mist hunters got beaten (it was close though) but my other list worked quite well. However, I feel that there is room for a little tweaking.

so here is the starting list;

Guri with; Mk2 title, Virago title, advanced sensors, Veteran Instincts, Stealth Device, Scav Crane

Dalan Oberos with; Adaptability, Mk2, Stealth Device

Fenn with; Concord Dawn, Fearlessness, autothrusters

99pts

Guri and Fenn really pulled their weight, but Dalan was pretty underwhelming. So with that in mind I'm going to keep Guri and Fenn and find them a new wingmate

at this point I've got 4 possible options in mind;

option 1 - Serissu with; Heavy title, mangler cannon, VI, Stealth device

option 2 - Old Teroch with; Concord Dawn, Fearlessness, autothrusters

option 3 - Torani Kulda with; Enforcer title, Unhinged astromech, VI

option 4 (requires Guri to drop to autothrusters and glitterstimm) - Viktor Hel with; Vaksai, VI, Engine Upgrade, Autothrusters, Stealth Device, Scav Crane, Thread-tracers

so what do people think? If your wondering, I play pretty aggressively for the most part (as in I was almost in my opponents deployment zone in turn 2 last night) and my normal tournament list is mangler-Dash with two Anti-pursuit laser U-wings

all suggestions welcomed

Alpha strike N'dru:

N'dru Suhlak (17): Veteran Instinct (1), Harpoon Missles (4), Glitterstim (2), Guidance Chips (0) = 24 points

4 minutes ago, Sasebo75 said:

Alpha strike N'dru:

N'dru Suhlak (17): Veteran Instinct (1), Harpoon Missles (4), Glitterstim (2), Guidance Chips (0) = 24 points

i do love that build, but any suggestions what to do with the 8pts that would leave me with?

Torpedos on Guri and Fenn? Seismic, Plasma or Protons, pick your fancy...

If you have 32 points open, then you can go:

Kavil (24): VI (1), TLT (6), Unhinged Astro (1) = 32 points

I've had a **** of a good with this Guri: Push the Limit, Fire Control Systems, Autothrusters, Scavenger Crane, Adv. Proton Torpedos, and both titles. 43 points of pure ridiculousness.

However, I keep meaning to put an Advanced Sensors Guri on the board.

• Fenn Rau (Fearlessness, CDP, Autothrusters) 32
• Guri (Push the Limit, Advanced Sensors, Autothrusters, both titles) 36 : I just love Push The Limit so much on Guri with that crazy Barrel Roll. Meanwhile, I kinda think boring old Autothrusters are probably better than Stealth Device + Crane, even though that is kinda fun and different.
• Dalan Oberos [Kimo] (Deadeye, Overclocked R4, Concussion Missiles, Contraband Cybernetics, Guidance Chips) 32 : Too much Range 1 action in the list to take Harpoons, IMHO, and I like having a point to spend for Contraband Cybernetics. If Dalan could afford Extra Munitions, it'd be even better. Pile up stress, pop CC and pull a K-Turn or 1-Hard or such into another Focus and fire again. Concussion are also wicked solid with focus and GC. Guaranteed blank conversion, guaranteed CG crit, and you'll be guaranteed to have a focus token to spend, so a roll would need 3 or more blanks to not be a 4-hit attack.

I am a big fan of Guri with Bodyguard and Vikto Hel. Guri's ability allows her to get a focus and the EPT Bodyguard add 1 agility to Viktor, thus helping him hand out stress when attacked.

Viktor Hel - Vaksai, Predator, Vectored Thrusters, Stealth Device, Auto Thrusters

Guri - Bodyguard Both titles Auto Thrusters, Sensor Jammer

Sensor Jammer is expensive but great defense, helping keep her alive a little longer.

1 hour ago, Sasebo75 said:

Torpedos on Guri and Fenn? Seismic, Plasma or Protons, pick your fancy...

Advanced Protons on Fenn could be funny

1 hour ago, Sasebo75 said:

If you have 32 points open, then you can go:

Kavil (24): VI (1), TLT (6), Unhinged Astro (1) = 32 points

another of my favourite pilots, possibly a little to slow and un-maneuverable for this list though

57 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

I've had a **** of a good with this Guri: Push the Limit, Fire Control Systems, Autothrusters, Scavenger Crane, Adv. Proton Torpedos, and both titles. 43 points of pure ridiculousness.

However, I keep meaning to put an Advanced Sensors Guri on the board.

• Fenn Rau (Fearlessness, CDP, Autothrusters) 32
• Guri (Push the Limit, Advanced Sensors, Autothrusters, both titles) 36 : I just love Push The Limit so much on Guri with that crazy Barrel Roll. Meanwhile, I kinda think boring old Autothrusters are probably better than Stealth Device + Crane, even though that is kinda fun and different.
• Dalan Oberos [Kimo] (Deadeye, Overclocked R4, Concussion Missiles, Contraband Cybernetics, Guidance Chips) 32 : Too much Range 1 action in the list to take Harpoons, IMHO, and I like having a point to spend for Contraband Cybernetics. If Dalan could afford Extra Munitions, it'd be even better. Pile up stress, pop CC and pull a K-Turn or 1-Hard or such into another Focus and fire again. Concussion are also wicked solid with focus and GC. Guaranteed blank conversion, guaranteed CG crit, and you'll be guaranteed to have a focus token to spend, so a roll would need 3 or more blanks to not be a 4-hit attack.

some good fun stuff going on there - never liked PTL on my vipers as I think it restricts their movement too much. Moggy have to look at that kimo build though, maybe with cluster missiles to join in the range 1 fun

24 minutes ago, SithTimmy said:

Viktor  Hel - Vaksai, Predator, Vectored Thrusters, Stealth Device, Auto Thrusters

Guri - Bodyguard  Both titles Auto Thrusters, Sensor Jamm  er 

for some reason I never even thought about using bodyguard to trigger Viktors ability, nice idea! As for sensor jammer, yes I'm a fan as well.

Bumpmaster

1 hour ago, flooze said:

Bumpmaster

I often fly Fenn + Thweek with a bumpmaster, and they are great together in my experience.

On ‎5‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 6:51 PM, flooze said:

Bumpmaster

Interesting idea, how about this;

contracted scout with; fearlessness, EMP device, anti-pursuit lasers, and courier droid

this leaves the list at 99pts

I have had a ton of fun with Kavil and either synced, dorsal or even autoblaster turret lately, and he is in that exact price range.

Also you might consider taking Attani Mindlink on him and Guri. Because VI brings him to 7, which is an odd number anyway. You won’t win most initiative duels against enemy aces and will win it against most generics without VI. And you have Advanced Sensors so you get an action anyway, and moght be able to block others.

And Kavil has quite some sauce if he can TL someone with Synced and get a Focus from Guris ability. That’s 4 dice on range 1-2 out of arc with TL and Focus.

Guri (30)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Stealth Device (3)
StarViper Mk. II (-3)
Virago (1)

Fenn Rau (28)
Fearlessness (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Concord Dawn Protector (1)

Kavil (24)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Synced Turret (4)
Unhinged Astromech (1)

Total: 99

3 hours ago, ForceM said:

I have had a ton of fun with Kavil and either synced, dorsal or even autoblaster turret lately, and he is in that exact price range.

Also you might consider taking Attani Mindlink on him and Guri. Because VI brings him to 7, which is an odd number anyway. You won’t win most initiative duels against enemy aces and will win it against most generics without VI. And you have Advanced Sensors so you get an action anyway, and moght be able to block others.

And Kavil has quite some sauce if he can TL someone with Synced and get a Focus from Guris ability. That’s 4 dice on range 1-2 out of arc with TL and Focus.

Guri (30)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Stealth Device (3)
StarViper Mk. II (-3)
Virago (1)

Fenn Rau (28)
Fearlessness (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Concord Dawn Protector (1)

Kavil (24)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Synced Turret (4)
Unhinged Astromech (1)

Total: 99

not a bad list, but I've had some issues with mindlink and my hyper agro playstyle, so I'll probably give this one a miss

4 hours ago, Surak said:

not a bad list, but I've had some issues with mindlink and my hyper agro playstyle, so I'll probably give this one a miss

Ok, as you like, but Guri benefits hugely from being Range1, and In this list even more since Kavil also gets a Focus. But if you like really REALLY aggro, maybe i have one more idea...

So What about this?

Thweek (28)
Fire-Control System (2)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Stealth Device (3)
StarViper Mk. II (-3)
Virago (1)

Fenn Rau (28)
Fearlessness (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Concord Dawn Protector (1)

Zuckuss (28)
Fearlessness (1)
Boba Fett (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Glitterstim (2)
Tractor Beam (1)
Mist Hunter (0)

Total: 100

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I used Thweek instead of Guri since he allows you more flexibility in what you do, and since you don’t use him with PTL and i deem VI on a PS 5 Pilot a waste, the only thing he loses is a potential Focus Token if you are R1. But he is cheaper and can steal a talent or PS. (BTW have you ever seen him with Vaders or Rey’s Talent? Hilarious)

And that allows you to get Zuckuss. You can’t mess up his approach, but if you manage to get the R1 Fearlessness Shot, you will cause an absolute Mess. And in the very likely event you cause a crit, you discard Palpy or TLT which always feels great...

Genesis Red with a HLC.

1 hour ago, ForceM said:

Thweek  (28)
Fire-Control System (2)
Scavenger C  rane (2)
Stealth Device (3)
StarViper Mk. II (-3)
Virago (1)

Fenn Rau (28) 
Fearlessness (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Concord Dawn Protector (1)

Zuckuss (28)
Fearlessness (1)
Boba Fett (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Glitterstim (2)
Tractor Beam (1)
Mist Hunter (0)

Total: 100   

Yeh that's the sort of list I can get behind might have to get this one on the table

29 minutes ago, thebrettski said:

Genesis Red with a HLC.

Always an interesting option

4 hours ago, ForceM said:

So What about this?

Thweek (28)
Fire-Control System (2)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Stealth Device (3)
StarViper Mk. II (-3)
Virago (1)

Fenn Rau (28)
Fearlessness (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Concord Dawn Protector (1)

Zuckuss (28)
Fearlessness (1)
Boba Fett (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Glitterstim (2)
Tractor Beam (1)
Mist Hunter (0)

Total: 100

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I used Thweek instead of Guri since he allows you more flexibility in what you do, and since you don’t use him with PTL and i deem VI on a PS 5 Pilot a waste, the only thing he loses is a potential Focus Token if you are R1. But he is cheaper and can steal a talent or PS. (BTW have you ever seen him with Vaders or Rey’s Talent? Hilarious)

And that allows you to get Zuckuss. You can’t mess up his approach, but if you manage to get the R1 Fearlessness Shot, you will cause an absolute Mess. And in the very likely event you cause a crit, you discard Palpy or TLT which always feels great...

I'd swap Stealth Device/Scavenger Crane for Autothrusters/Glitterstim/bid 1, but the premise is pretty cool.

On 5/11/2018 at 7:09 AM, Sasebo75 said:

Alpha strike N'dru:

N'dru Suhlak (17): Veteran Instinct (1), Harpoon Missles (4), Glitterstim (2), Guidance Chips (0) = 24 points

Trade VI for Lone Wolf and Harps for Clusters, and you have an alpha of 2 4 dice attacks pretty much guaranteed 4 hits each, and then a 3/2 the rest of the game with easy rerolls.

Speaking of more general options: GENESIS RED YESSSSSSSSSSS BISH.

To save some points from your starting list, I would drop the Sensors to FCS on Guri and drop the crane and SD altogether, then use Intensity on her - SO GOOD. I might then use PTL on Fenn