E-Web Engineer

By TheEldarGuy, in Star Wars: Legion

What's the best way to handle this one?

Imperial Assault has the Scout Trooper armour. In Legion, the category is as important as the sculpt. Would the E-=Web be an Elite or Heavy slot?

Should they release a three-pack model with three E-Webs for each build, or should the Gunner be both regular Storm/Snowtrooper?

I suppose there's always a chance that in Legion the Scout trooper is an Elite.

Either way, it's worth FFG thinking about rather than just repeat the IA scene.

In all likelihood it’s a heavy trooper for special forces. So you could do an E-Web strike force.

I kind of suspect that it might be similar to how the Rebel Commandos sniper team works. If I understand correctly (and if I don't, I'm sure someone will correct me) the sniper is a two man upgrade that can be split off sperately form teh main unit, or perhaps purchased by itself or separately. I can see the E-Web being the same for Scouts.

Why should the E-Web necessary be a Scout? In ESB it’s handled by Snowtroopers for instance.

I'd expect it to be a corp or support unit with cumbersome and speed 1. Maybe 4-5 black dice with impact.

18 minutes ago, Ritalbringer said:

Why should the E-Web necessary be a Scout? In ESB it’s handled by Snowtroopers for instance.

Unacceptable.

Imperial war materiel doctrine dictates a new trooper type for this job, complete with unique helmet design.

1 hour ago, Ritalbringer said:

Why should the E-Web necessary be a Scout? In ESB it’s handled by Snowtroopers for instance.

Not necessarily a scout, but a "special forces" unit for the army list.

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I predict it will be similar to the Rebel Commandos, and have a 2 member squad with the E-web gunner as the unit leader.

The big thing to me is that I think it should have a fixed firing arc, which no trooper has yet so it might have a special base.

Edited by Contrapulator

I can see imperial scouts and an e-web type gun for the next expansion. FFG could use whatever troops for the e-web they want. There are lots of worlds with every type of imaginable environment. Maybe FFG will use mud troopers just to be different. I predict something other than stromtrooper or snowtrooper though.

Edit: guess I should scan topics before posting. I called that one totally wrong.

Edited by Bohemian73

I think it would be an interesting choice to add eweb as a heavy weapon that also takes the extra trooper slot. You could release a small commander sized pack with just the eweb and if you want to use it, use it with the storm trooper or snowtrooper units.

1 hour ago, azavander said:

I think it would be an interesting choice to add eweb as a heavy weapon that also takes the extra trooper slot. You could release a small commander sized pack with just the eweb and if you want to use it, use it with the storm trooper or snowtrooper units.

That would be sweet! There is a similar concept of unit upgrade expansions in Runewars. The only issue is then the figure manning the gun might not match the other squaddies.

4 hours ago, azavander said:

I think it would be an interesting choice to add eweb as a heavy weapon that also takes the extra trooper slot. ...

2 hours ago, Contrapulator said:

... The only issue is then the figure manning the gun might not match the other squaddies.

I was having a similar thoughts just yesterday - on both counts.

It might be a bit much to assume they would provide alternate Storm and Snow in the same box... plus there's also Scouts seen using them.

8 hours ago, Contrapulator said:

The big thing to me is that I think it should have a fixed firing arc, which no trooper has yet so it might have a special base.

Could use the same base size as AT-RT/Speeder bikes - in which case I'd see it being a Support unit.

Definitely say support. As much as I think people would want them to be a hard hitter, I don’t think that would make for an interesting addition to the game and would make things like the AtSt redundant.

i can imagine 6 white dice, or 4 white 2 black. With suppressive so it’s handing out suppression all over the board. With impact 1? Maybe being able to attack twice in the round?

Same as HH12 can’t move and shoot at the same time.

Would benefit greatly from having Veers close to give aim tokens.

It all comes down to wether it would be a support, providing more suppression/map control of some kind.

or a heavy, dishing out damamge.

A E-Web need in my opinion a new base type without movement notches but with firing arc.

I can see max movement one with an action required to set up or take down. It reminds me of a 50 cal machinegun, so maybe a 45 degree arc. We lugged 60 cal machine guns around but the 50 cal guns were mounted.

I'd give the E-Web either a double unit card or one designed that it can be flipped over.

Base unit size of 2, an upgrade to add an extra trooper to it.

On side 1, it would be move 1, possibly treat them as the standard imperial trooper weapons. Probably range 2.

Side 2 would be stationary, but with facing and the ability to use a move to pivot. You can only switch between them by an action if you have at least 2 troopers in the unit. If the unit is down to one trooper, you have to flip it to stationary.

When stationary, you gain the cover 1, attack surge to critical, and a far more powerful weapon option.

You also gain Precise with a value equal to the number of troopers in the unit, along with Impact 1. Range would also increase to at least 3...

The main reason for it is that the E-Web was mainly described as being an anti-vehicular weapon, the deployment on Hoth being intended to be for taking down enemy fighters and damaging freighters that were escaping along with firing on enemy vehicles.

15 hours ago, Shadows of the Future said:

The main reason for it is that the E-Web was mainly described as being an anti-vehicular weapon, the deployment on Hoth being intended to be for taking down enemy fighters and damaging freighters that were escaping along with firing on enemy vehicles.

Where is it described as that? I've always seen it as a "heavy repeating blaster cannon," and its main role is as a heavy anti-infantry weapon with light anti-vehicle/armor capabilities. Roughly comparable to the WWII use of Maxim/Vickers/Browning water-cooled MGs or the M2 .50 Cal.

I'd like to see it as a heavy support slot. Perhaps 3 guys, and it has to be set up to shoot. What might be great is it it comes with a Storm trooper Eweb, A snow trooper eweb, and a scout Eweb. All int he same box, a bit more expensive.

I'd like to see it as the blaster with no trooper modeled on it, then make it a special upgrade that can be applied to any unit of troopers, maybe make it stationary but with the ability to be deployed by the unit as an action during the game to represent the troopers assembling the components. Could even do a cut out on the base where you can put in the trooper unit to fire it.

On 5/15/2018 at 10:02 AM, Alpha17 said:

Where is it described as that? I've always seen it as a "heavy repeating blaster cannon," and its main role is as a heavy anti-infantry weapon with light anti-vehicle/armor capabilities. Roughly comparable to the WWII use of Maxim/Vickers/Browning water-cooled MGs or the M2 .50 Cal.

That's more of the Heavy Repeating Blasters, the E-Web is a step higher up. Most of the RPG's had it dealing vehicle or starship scale damage in the past. Same with, at least, the Decipher CCG...

The major joke used to be having one welded onto a GNK as a mobile weapons battery since it pretty much required a generator to operate properly since you couldn't hip fire it like the LRB and the HRB could use standard cells well enough.

Edited by Shadows of the Future
6 minutes ago, Shadows of the Future said:

That's more of the Heavy Repeating Blasters, the E-Web is a step higher up. Most of the RPG's had it dealing vehicle or starship scale damage in the past. Same with, at least, the Decipher CCG...

It's rather similar in use to the WW1 Maxim machine gun, in that whilst it was designed to shoot infantry if you could aim it high enough you could also terrorise planes with it.

On 5/15/2018 at 10:21 PM, Hawktel said:

I'd like to see it as a heavy support slot. Perhaps 3 guys, and it has to be set up to shoot. What might be great is it it comes with a Storm trooper Eweb, A snow trooper eweb, and a scout Eweb. All int he same box, a bit more expensive.

Agree, it would be great, but don't think they'd give three different sets of crew, especially if it's crewed by three troopers.

If it does come with just one style of crew, I am intensely curious which of those three they would choose...

(Imperial Assault of course went with Scout)

... then again, perhaps they could introduce a different style of uniform altogether. Nevertheless, I'll be happy whatever they choose.

Edited by ABXY

maybe trooper type is based on the defense dice they want to give the unit.

Now we know!

And that's half the battle.