48 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:I am very curious about the cardboard only expansions for future waves that have been discussed but not really confirmed.
The Dev's have stated it in multiple different videos.... not sure how more confirmed we can get.
There is enough tie fighter dials for an 8 ship swarm between the Rebel, imperial, and core set, though only 6 of each imperial generic and there may be some unique/generic conflicts depending on the list. It also only converts 6 ties, the other two are madatory new ties.
1 hour ago, gamblertuba said:I am very curious about the cardboard only expansions for future waves that have been discussed but not really confirmed.
My impression is those would be for additional upgrades they feel need to be put in re-release expansions but that won't be in the conversion packs. They aren't confirmed because at this point they likely don't know that whether they'll be adding things to the re-release that aren't in the conversion packs at the outset.
31 minutes ago, Icelom said:The Dev's have stated it in multiple different videos.... not sure how more confirmed we can get.
An official announcement, a price point, that sort of thing. Sounds like they are happening but it ain't officially official yet.
35 minutes ago, ghotio said:I don't believe they need to provide enough for 8x tie fighter squads, although I am sure that some would say so, BUT SURELY THE BARE MINIMUM!
Yeah, I'm kinda surprised by the TIE/ln quantity. And pretty much only the TIE/ln quantity*. As you pointed out, the only ships you're short on if you bought one of everything is the T-65 and the TIE/ln. Yet with the T-65, you're getting 2 from the conversion, 1 from Saws, and 1 from the core, giving you 4 total. The TIE/ln though you're converting 4 and buying 2 from the new core, giving you 6. TIE swarm is a known archetype that should have 8 TIE/ln in it (presuming that they're sticking true to their entire "we're rebalancing everything around the TIE fighter and its cost" statement). You cannot run a TIE swarm if you just buy 1 of everything, even though you have the models to do so (er, well, 7 models, but you still can't even run the Howl+6 which dominated W1-3).
*Presuming that 5 T-65 X-Wings is not possible in v2.0.
31 minutes ago, Khyros said:Yeah, I'm kinda surprised by the TIE/ln quantity. And pretty much only the TIE/ln quantity*. As you pointed out, the only ships you're short on if you bought one of everything is the T-65 and the TIE/ln. Yet with the T-65, you're getting 2 from the conversion, 1 from Saws, and 1 from the core, giving you 4 total. The TIE/ln though you're converting 4 and buying 2 from the new core, giving you 6. TIE swarm is a known archetype that should have 8 TIE/ln in it (presuming that they're sticking true to their entire "we're rebalancing everything around the TIE fighter and its cost" statement). You cannot run a TIE swarm if you just buy 1 of everything, even though you have the models to do so (er, well, 7 models, but you still can't even run the Howl+6 which dominated W1-3).
*Presuming that 5 T-65 X-Wings is not possible in v2.0.
On occasions we play more than 100 pts. Usually when I play my kids I get 100 pts they get 125. If we have 5 models of x-wings and wish to field 5 models of x-wings in the privacy of our own home. I would expect 1x Conversion kit to be sufficient to cover everything I have bought (singularly) up 'til now.
As you have re-iterated it's just shy of 1 x-wing and 1 tie/ln. But guaranteed these are going to be like hens teeth in exchange programs!
I think they should at the very least make 2.0 model free packs of just these two ships. No plastic just cards and cardboard. Maybe not even unique pilot cards.
No question that the TIE fighter conversion is going to be the most expensive on the secondary market. They could definitely sell the cardboard only packs for X-wings and TIE Fighters with B-wings and TIE Defenders being a maybe.
20 hours ago, Dwing said:I think FFG is testing a new marketing strategy. Releases Legion, flies away. Drops the 2.0 bomb, flies away...
"New." Heh.
What does the starter set have that I would need?
Damage Deck I'll want
Are the Dice different? Are the movement guides different sizes/lengths, etc?
If I mainly play or plan to play S&V, do I really need the Starter?
18 hours ago, Vontoothskie said:you get enough to play each ship listed, but not all combinations of ships because there arent enough medium bases.
it appears many ships will only have a single named pilot, and some ships may only have generics(this is unclear as packs are unspoiled, but the number of pilot cards is light for the number of ships)
all the upgrades are NOT included. only an introductory sample akin to a core set. since most cards are being billed as "faction specific" that may mean that scum, first order and resistance players may get very little from the core set other than damage deck and templates
it is established that future releases of 2.0 ships will contain new pilots, upgrades, etc. it is very likely these will be the "good" aka powercreeped pilots, though this is obviously a guess. FFGs is clearly trying to fight powercreep with 2.0, but their history is suspect. we'll see. its worth noting that the famous named pilots like Bobba Fett and Bossk arent being advertised yet. maybe you have to buy them later?
we also havent seen this required "app". it is probably free. its probably got all the cards listed even if you dont own them so you can use them. we dont know, and we wont know much about squad points etc until its released.
so reading beetween the lines, the current conversion kits are only part of the conversion cost, the rest is as yet unknown, and probably expensive if you have a large fleet and want competetive pilots/upgrades for the ships you currently own
9 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:At this point we might as well just reply to him in Last Jedi Luke memes.
done
2 hours ago, buckero0 said:What does the starter set have that I would need?
Damage Deck I'll want
Are the Dice different? Are the movement guides different sizes/lengths, etc?
If I mainly play or plan to play S&V, do I really need the Starter?
The new templates have the centerline which is better for determining collision. Otherwise, the Devs said that you'd only need a new 1-straight template (it's cross-line is used for the new barrel-roll mechanic).
Dice are remaining the same. (Thank goodness. I have so many, and other people have sparkly Organized Play dice.)
Yes, the damage deck will be new. There will be people who pick up more than one new core, and anybody who preorders a new core can receive a full-sized (not mini cards) damage deck. So it shouldn't be too hard to pick up somebody's spare.
There will be new tokens, but I'm convinced they should all be in conversion kits. Maybe not the same number Ship ID & Lock tokens, but there have to be some.
The asteroid & debris tokens are all reprints. (They said that in the Hyperspace Q&A.)
I would expect you could pick up anything you need from someone who gets multiple cores. If all else fails, somebody on eBay will get you set up.
I have to imagine at least a few upgrade cards in the core set will not be in the conversion kits. That's probably the only thing you couldn't absolutely get from somewhere else.
55 minutes ago, Duciris said:The new templates have the centerline which is better for determining collision. Otherwise, the Devs said that you'd only need a new 1-straight template (it's cross-line is used for the new barrel-roll mechanic).
You need (potentially) a lot more than the 1s. You'll need a 2s with the line for decloaking. If starvipers keep the curved barrel roll, you'll need a 1 bank. If Echo keeps the curved decloak, you'll need a 2 bank. And you need 2 and 3 turns for talon rolls.
40 minutes ago, Ixidor said:I have to imagine at least a few upgrade cards in the core set will not be in the conversion kits. That's probably the only thing you couldn't absolutely get from somewhere else.
They've said that none of the upgrade cards or pilots in the core set will be in the conversion kits
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