Turrets in 2.0 - questions

By CaptainJaguarShark, in X-Wing

So far we've seen turret upgrades on small ships (Y-wing) and primary turrets on large ships (YT-1300). For the small ships, we've seen only one facing for the turret but this was a turret upgrade. For the large ships, we've seen opposing faces (in the preview video) and we can assume this is a primary weapon turret.

So, my questions.

1. Do small ships always get only one facing?

2. Do large ships always get opposing facing, or is it possible we'll get a 90 degree turret or two independent facings?

3. If small ships always get one facing and large ships always get opposing facings, what do medium ships gets?

4. Is it possible that the facings have nothing to do with size and are specific to each individual ship/upgrade? (For example, there's speculation that the HWK-290 will have a PWT, will it be one facing or opposing facings?)

Personally, I hope that it's based on the upgrade card or ship card only, and that small ships sometimes get multiple facings and large ships sometimes get single ones. I think this is somewhat reinforced by two of the turret cards we have seen, the Ion Cannon Turret and the Millenium Falcon. They have the pointy side of the turret in different positions. Still curious about medium ship turrets.

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All PWTs will be moving to dual/opposite mobile arcs, all turret upgrades are single mobile arcs.

I still want to know if, with the new hash marks on the bases, you can set the turret firing arc at a 45-degree angle or if you are limited to 90-degree intervals like with the Shadowcaster 1.0. I haven’t seen that made clear anywhere.

Edited by Herowannabe
Typo

They said ships with multiple weapon turrets ie: Falcon, etc will have the double mobile arcs

Edited by MrMaggles
9 minutes ago, MrMaggles said:

They said ships with multiple weapon turrets ie: Falcon, etc will have the double mobile arcs

Which means the decimator should too. It also has 2 turrets.

43 minutes ago, Innese said:

All PWTs will be moving to dual/opposite mobile arcs, all turret upgrades are single mobile arcs.

That doesn't seem quite right. There's speculation that the HWK-290 will have a PWT. Two facings doesn't seem like the right move here. There's also the K-Wing, which I suppose could have two facings.

20 minutes ago, MrMaggles said:

They said ships with multiple weapon turrets ie: Falcon, etc will have the double mobile arcs

This feels nice to me but doesn't seem to cover turret upgrades well. You could potentially have a turret upgrade that makes sense to have two arcs, maybe. This does feel about right for the first pass through the conversion packs and all, though.

30 minutes ago, LordFajubi said:

Which means the decimator should too. It also has 2 turrets.

Think the deci has a 180 arc mobile Turret instead

2 minutes ago, MrMaggles said:

Think the deci has a 180 arc mobile Turret instead

That could be fun it worked for bossk.

Apparently they did cover this in a panel. I'm hoping this statement is only limited to the initial release as this just feels like unnecessary design restriction in the long term. Statement about turrets from the devs.

3 hours ago, MrMaggles said:

Think the deci has a 180 arc mobile Turret instead

Aw man, that would be so fun!

15 minutes ago, Ixidor said:

Apparently they did cover this in a panel. I'm hoping this statement is only limited to the initial release as this just feels like unnecessary design restriction in the long term. Statement about turrets from the devs.

They later corrected themselves:

Some ships will have double arc PWTs, depending on their guns.

3 hours ago, Ixidor said:

That doesn't seem quite right. There's speculation that the HWK-290 will have a PWT. Two facings doesn't seem like the right move here. There's also the K-Wing, which I suppose could have two facings.

This is not a speculation, see above.

Edited by eMeM

Thanks for the follow up eMeM. I feel like I need to watch that panel again now, I clearly missed two things at least.

I'm hoping the Deci gets a 180 turret rather than opposing 90 turrets.

7 hours ago, Innese said:

All PWTs will be moving to dual/opposite mobile arcs, all turret upgrades are single mobile arcs.

I don’t think this 100% correct. In an interview with the developers, they said all turrets would be turning into, effectively, mobile firing arcs. So ships will get an standard arc (typically front) and a mobile arc. In the case of ships that don’t technically have a standard arc (falcon, deci, etc) they’d get a dual sided mobile arc.

44 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

I'm hoping the Deci gets a 180 turret rather than opposing 90 turrets.

It'd make sense to

The deci is seeming being turned into a plodding tank, given EU's gone, it doesn't get boost, and it's got reinforce

Seems fair it'd get a wider mobile arc than the more spritely turrets and their red boost/roll (falcon and jm5k)

3 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

It'd make sense to

The deci is seeming being turned into a plodding tank, given EU's gone, it doesn't get boost, and it's got reinforce

Seems fair it'd get a wider mobile arc than the more spritely turrets and their red boost/roll (falcon and jm5k)

Really? The deci was designed to be the ‘evil Falcon’ and will probably keep the opposing arcs since the model doesn’t have forward fixed guns. K-wings as well will probably have the double arc, maybe with an option for a single arc when equipped with a turret upgrade....maybe, K-wings are weird. And ugly.

"evil falcon" is shite, though

Waste of such a badass model to turn into a cheap imitation of some scruffy squirrelly scumbag scoundrel of a smuggler

It better be completely different in playstyle, something that'd make Oicuun proud!

Edited by ficklegreendice

"Evil falcon" is like, a balance thing, though apparently it's sound design in SWG was based on the Falcon too.

That said, this means it's entire history is that it does have capabilities roughly like the falcon too, with the two quad laser turrets and conc missiles - but the version from Commander also has bombs and stuff (which could have been influenced by X-Wing, the decimator was announced before Commander came out). I expect they will remain somewhat similar but with those new "faction identity" twists the devs are talking about.

Also donuts to dollars Commander Kenkirk (a "literal who" from SWG) is replaced in 2.0. Oicunn and RAC are on-screen extras. Probably by Morna Kee from Armada though I think her operation of the Decimator was mostly made up for that.

Deci will have two opposing arcs for its weapon and Reinforce will care about fore and aft as it does on the auzi wherever it appears. Almost certainly.