I've noticed that I have 3 different colour variations for my adventure deck with the Main 4ER and 3 expansions so far.

Since I'm not trying to memorize which colour belongs to which expansion, I don't have any idea which card comes with each draw.

If we add, at least 3 more expansions, probably 6, if not more, I would figure you'll have so many different variations, it will be difficult to tell which variation you are looking at when you draw. Besides, every expansion has good and bad cards, so it doesn't really matter if I knew which expansion I was drawing from, does it?

You got it, OPR. The more the merry and the ignorance becomes bliss. And you just play on.

JCHendee said:

Sorry but I don't agree with this statement, there is a huge difference between having total complete control over an "in-house" made product by qualified people belonging to your company with certification that you can check first hand over going to a third party company and rely on their "know how" to make the product as close to specification and cheap as is judge acceptable.

JCHendee said:

Bad example!! A book's cover is the marketing feature and is aim at selling the book to new audiences and get their attention and I don't recall ever seeing a series of book with the same color of dust jacket that could be shuffle and you couldn't tell afterward which is the starting book of the series or the last. A book's dust cover colors will not hinder the enjoyment of a book, the choice of words telling the story are extremely important and they are written mostly in black on white paper but this you know of course . Variation of colors on the back of any deck of card is bad mostly because you shouldn't be able to tell the cards from the main game from it's expansion. I had high hope with FFG's reputation that this Game Workshop flaw from decades ago would be a thing of the past. And I don't consider a multitude of tones variation from many expansion and the quantity of cards a fix for this . Basically, tone variation should not be noticable or visible to the naked eyes.

JCHendee said:

True, there is indeed a lot more to it, but there are not too many more important things as the deck of card play a huge role in this game, if you don't believe me try a game of Talisman without any cards .

I can still ear " hey, the next adventure card is from the city, look at it's shade of color, I wont take this face down character because it's from Timescape!!"

Cheers

Old Master said:

True, there is indeed a lot more to it, but there are not too many more important things as the deck of card play a huge role in this game, if you don't believe me try a game of Talisman without any cards .

I'm assuming you have your tongue in your cheek. And you've missed an aweful lot about the book publishing industry. Truly not the same as producing a game, but there are parallels you have overlooked and assumptions you have oversimplified as well. Don't tell an author (and one time editor / specialty press publisher) about book publishing.

Old Master said:

And since eveyone is playing the same way, nobody has an advantage over anyone else in this. And since when do you think any player can avoid drawing a card for very long. You're exaggerating the effects again.

By the time we got done adding cards from all expansions in 2E, fewer and fewer people could always pick which expansion a card came from... and nobody bothered to care in the middle of game.

JCHendee said:

The Reaper Expansion is basically a reprint of the first expansion for the 1st/2nd Edition: Talisman: The Expansion. The only really new parts is The Reaper himself and a few cards dealing with fate tokens.

Thus, if you remember that expansion, then you pretty much know what you are buying with The Reaper.

I have been playing Talisman since the mid-80's and it went like this:

1st/2nd Edition Expansions:

1. Talisman: The Expansion.

2. Talisman: The Adventure.

3. Talisman: The Dungeon.

4. Talisman: Timescape.

5. Talisman: The City.

6. Talisman: Dragons.

3rd Edition:

1. The Dungeon / The Mountain.

2. The City / The Forest.

3. The Tower.

Thus far, for 4th Edition, the expansions correlate as such to the older ones:

1. The Reaper (basically, a reprint of the first 2nd Edition expansion, Talisman: The Expansion).

2. The Dungeon (a reprint of the third 2nd Edition expansion, The Dungeon, with the L-shape style (albeit a much larger one) that the 3rd edition expansions used).

3. Frostmarch (basically, a reprint of the second 2nd Edition expansion, Talisman: The Adventure.)

4. The Highlands (It looks as if it will be a reprint of The Mountain board from the first 3rd edition expansion in the same larger L-shape style as the 4th Edition dungeon).

4th Edition is basically an updated version of 2nd Edition with some things taken from 3rd Edition (the cones, the L-shaped corner expansion boards) and some new things (fate tokens). Thus far, it is my favorite of all of the editions. I like the new changes. I just cant wait for all of the expansions. By my count, they have several more that they can do just by using the old Games Workshop material (and then they can do many, many more new ones as well):

5. Dragons (this would basically be a reprint of the sixth 2nd Edition expansion with more alternate ending cards (including one for The Dragon King)). It would be a small expansion.

6. The City (this would basically be a reprint of the fifth 2nd edition expansion done in the same L-shape style as the other new board expansions from the current edition). It would be a large expansion.

7. The Forest (this would basically be a reprint of the forest board from the second 3rd edition expansion done in the new, larger L-shape style as the other new board expansions from the current edition). It would be a large expansion.

8. Timescape (this would basically be a reprint of the fourth 2nd Edition expansion with a board off to the side as that one was.) It would be a large expansion.

9. The Tower (this would basically be a reprint of the third 3rd edition expansion with the new style (no-averaging die maxing out at four, but using the normal dice as the new dungeon has. The new, larger main board for 4th edition makes a much larger tower easily possible.) This would be a larger expansion.

Then, of course, if they wanted to keep making the expansions small, large, small, large, they could keep coming up with new material to release as small expansions in-between all of the reprint large ones. That alone (besides any other new boards or materials would push up the expansion count to at least 12. Heck, I'm hoping that this game beats Mega-Supremacy for the most expansions ever (there were 14 for that game and it's one of my all time favorites, with Talisman up there as well).

I can't wait. :)