UPDATE: Thanks for your input everyone. I made the purchase. $240 for 131 ships (he advertised 89, he forgot to count an entire foam tray.. lol, including an extra Falcon, 2 Firesprays, etc). He also threw in a game mat, tons of foam trays, tons of accessories, etc. This ended up being an insane deal. He has asked me to pass on the karma so I will be helping out the local scene as much as possible and maybe giving a bit away for free to some local kids.

Here are some images of the collection after I got it home!: https://imgur.com/a/aTOcQMY

Hello everyone,

I'm a newbie here. I currently own nothing from X-Wing 1st Edition, but have wanted to give it a try for a while. Initially when 2E was announced I was excited, but now I'm a little worried that I'd be just as far behind with the existence of the conversion kits.

I have a friend willing to give me a deal on some 1E stuff (list below), about $1500 CAD worth of stuff for under $300. I don't know if it's going to just bite me in the *** though. There's a chance I may not get into 2E at all, maybe I'll hate 1E, etc. So I'm wondering if either way, if this deal is worth it regardless? Will the price of 1E stuff just tank to the point where I'd not be able to get my money back? Some people have convinced me that I could probably sell off half of this, get my money back, buy all conversion kits, and still end up ahead. I'm not so sure if they're being overly optimistic though.

I'm thinking this is too good of a deal to pass up, but obviously I'm basing that off of old prices & information. The list of ships is included below, he's also including all cards & accessories (plus a ton of cards not from the below expansions).

Some professional input would be very much appreciated!

Imperial:
Inquisitor’s TIE x1
Lambda-Class Shuttle x2
Royal Guard TIE Interceptor x2
Saber Squadron TIE Interceptor x2
Slave I x2
TIE Advanced x4
TIE Bomber x4
TIE Defender x3
TIE Fighter x8
TIE Interceptor from booster x4
TIE Phantom x2
TIE Punisher x2
TIE-FO Fighter x5
VT-49 Decimator x1

Rebel:
A-Wing x6
B-Wing x5
E-Wing x2
Ghost x1
HWK-290 x2
K-Wing x2
Millennium Falcon (original) x2
T-70 X-Wing x3
YT-2400 (Dash Rendar’s Outrider) x2
Y-Wing x3
Z-95 Headhunter x5

Scum:
Hound’s Tooth x1
IG-2000 x2
Kihraxz Fighter x2
Mist Hunter x1
Punishing One x1
Scyk x5
StarViper x2

Hit up the 2e FAQ

You can see a list of conversion kit contents, which will transfer your 1e models to 2e

Then you can decide if the deal is worth it

It’s cheaper to buy the 1E ships plus the conversion kit than to wait and buy the same ships for 2E due to the price bump com8ng.

Lets assume you like v1 and v2.

These are 89 ships for 300$ so not even 3.5$ per ship.

If you would only pick up 1 conversion kit for rebels, empire ans *** each you would lose access to:

3 A-Wing, 3 B-Wing, 3 T-70, 1 Y-Wing, 1 Z-95, 5 Tie Interceptors, 2 Tie Advanced, 1 Tie Bomber, 1 Tie Defender, 4 Tie Fighter, 5 Tie FO Fighter, 1 Scyk

Thats 30 ships you would lose access to.

So increasing your cost by 3 conversion kits and losing out on those 30 ships your cost per ship would increase to ~ 8$ per ship. That is still a very good offer. And you could try to sell off the remaining ships and pick up some more that the conversion kits cover that you do not have yet.

Overall this seems like a pretty good deal.

That is a huge deal. If I calculate well, it is something like ~90 ships for $300. Let's say you buy a 2.0 core set and 2 upgrade for each factions. Thats about $640 for a huge, upgraded collection. Still worth it.

You can also decide to keep only one faction and sell the rest. You will probably make money.

It's possible for you to make your money back yeah. It depends on if you get all the cards with the ships or not. Honestly, it is probably a good deal. I would possibly sell off excess ships when you see what comes in the conversion kits since you don't really need the excess ones right now. Plus, this gives you an opportunity to decide if you like a particular faction more and then turn to them primarily by selling off the others.

*I am not telling you to do this, this is just my opinion*

89 ships for 300 is 3.3 dollars per ship. That’s an amazing price even when you factor in 1 conversion kit for each faction. If you decide you want to sell on ships from 1 faction you would make most of you money back.

basically just check the cost of conversion kits and a core from wherever you buy them and remember that you need to add that to it. It you are happy then go for it. This is a good deal.

I concur, its a fantastic deal. Furthermore, I would just get one of each conversion kit for now and see how the game settles before buying multiple copies since, based on evidence from other FFG games like Legion and Armada that squad building in 2.0 will reward more balanced squad building.

I don’t think I would buy more conversion kits after 1 of each with that collection. As they rerelease old ships they will have new pilots and upgrades in the packs. They have said they will release card packs for each wave, I would get a copy or 2 of those as they are released. You may also find you have a couple too many of some ships later down the line, you could then sell them in small bundles to make some money back.

That is an awesome deal, I would definitely pull the trigger if you are interested in X-Wing at all. With that said, I wouldn't upgrade every single ship at once with 2e. I'd pick up the 2e core and a conversion kit for 1 faction, whichever sounds most fun for you, and play with that for a bit before deciding if you want to branch out. $390 spend on 1 kit and all those models will probably be easily recoupable if you decide the game isn't for you and you sell all that stuff in parts later.

40 minutes ago, Morris420 said:

Hello everyone,

I'm a newbie here. I currently own nothing from X-Wing 1st Edition, but have wanted to give it a try for a while. Initially when 2E was announced I was excited, but now I'm a little worried that I'd be just as far behind with the existence of the conversion kits.

I have a friend willing to give me a deal on some 1E stuff (list below), about $1500 CAD worth of stuff for under $300. I don't know if it's going to just bite me in the *** though. There's a chance I may not get into 2E at all, maybe I'll hate 1E, etc. So I'm wondering if either way, if this deal is worth it regardless? Will the price of 1E stuff just tank to the point where I'd not be able to get my money back? Some people have convinced me that I could probably sell off half of this, get my money back, buy all conversion kits, and still end up ahead. I'm not so sure if they're being overly optimistic though.

I'm thinking this is too good of a deal to pass up, but obviously I'm basing that off of old prices & information. The list of ships is included below, he's also including all cards & accessories (plus a ton of cards not from the below expansions).

Some professional input would be very much appreciated!

Imperial:
Inquisitor’s TIE x1
Lambda-Class Shuttle x2
Royal Guard TIE Interceptor x2
Saber Squadron TIE Interceptor x2
Slave I x2
TIE Advanced x4
TIE Bomber x4
TIE Defender x3
TIE Fighter x8
TIE Interceptor from booster x4
TIE Phantom x2
TIE Punisher x2
TIE-FO Fighter x5
VT-49 Decimator x1

Rebel:
A-Wing x6
B-Wing x5
E-Wing x2
Ghost x1
HWK-290 x2
K-Wing x2
Millennium Falcon (original) x2
T-70 X-Wing x3
YT-2400 (Dash Rendar’s Outrider) x2
Y-Wing x3
Z-95 Headhunter x5

Scum:
Hound’s Tooth x1
IG-2000 x2
Kihraxz Fighter x2
Mist Hunter x1
Punishing One x1
Scyk x5
StarViper x2

That's a terrific deal if you want to play the game. All that stuff is not going to initially be available when 2nd comes out. If you don't have a Falcon or any 1st Ed. stuff and want to play anything other than what's in that first wave in 2nd you'll need to wait till the release comes out or get a 1st Ed. one and the appropriate 2nd Ed. conversion bits. And you'll have all that stuff NOW to play 1st edition with over the next five months.

Also it is only the price of the collection NOW and the price of the conversion bits and new cores LATER. You should be able to resell some of that stuff easily in either world. I suspect a person willing to buy conversion kits and split them up with 1st Ed. models would make a profit.

Biggest thing to keep in mind is if you just buy 2E boxes you will be waiting a long time for each ship to get released again.
Whether its cheaper to buy 1E and the kits or wait for 2E will mostly depend on did you buy a ragequiter's kit or boxed new. If you snagged someones kit it was more than likely not even an 1/8th of the real value so definitely cheaper. Buying boxed new, that i guess depends on large box prices (all the 6 2E boxes we got atm are 20 instead of 15 or unchanged, as the firespray was always 30 but its a medium not a large now)

Truth be told its probably cheaper but you might be saving like 20 bucks or so, given you could easily end up needing another conversion kit which bloats the numbers. So this just leads back to the first thing i said: youre gonna wait a long time if you dont buy 1E first....

If you do plan to sell ships, keep in mind that ships with alternate paint jobs that came in "Ace" expansion pack are not going to be re-printed (or so goes the scuttlebutt) so they will be more desirable. You'll likely be able to get more money for them if there are any in this collection.

That's a really nice collection though. I would keep it all.

Absolutely not. Have your friend contact me and I'll help him dispose of that.

Many many thanks for the feedback and information everyone. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this one!

Next question, if anyone cares enough to answer:

Out of the list I provided, what would everyone suggest I keep, and what would be the ones I should prioritize selling?

I will do a ton of research on this too, but if anyone has any suggestions it'd surely be helpful

5 minutes ago, Morris420 said:

Many many thanks for the feedback and information everyone. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this one!

Next question, if anyone cares enough to answer:

Out of the list I provided, what would everyone suggest I keep, and what would be the ones I should prioritize selling?

I will do a ton of research on this too, but if anyone has any suggestions it'd surely be helpful

The list i posted up top are the ships you will not be able to fly if you only buy one conversion kit each for empire, rebels and s&v. So i would look at those if you want to sell some.

Thats 30 ships and if you can manage to sell them on average at 5$ a piece (you will most likely get more) you would have already financed your conversion kits and perhaps even the core set.

At least that is what i would do with such a large fleet.

Edit: Perhaps keep the 4 Interceptors with different color scheme and only sell the 4 basic ones. Or keep one Interceptor of each color scheme.

9 minutes ago, Morris420 said:

Many many thanks for the feedback and information everyone. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this one!

Next question, if anyone cares enough to answer:

Out of the list I provided, what would everyone suggest I keep, and what would be the ones I should prioritize selling?

I will do a ton of research on this too, but if anyone has any suggestions it'd surely be helpful

2 hours ago, Reaver027 said:

If you would only pick up 1 conversion kit for rebels, empire ans *** each you would lose access to:

3 A-Wing, 3 B-Wing, 3 T-70 , 1 Y-Wing, 1 Z-95, 5 Tie Interceptors, 2 Tie Advanced, 1 Tie Bomber, 1 Tie Defender, 4 Tie Fighter, 5 Tie FO Fighter , 1 Scyk

This is the list that I would sell, if I were you. Keep the First Order and T-70s until you know how many come in their respective upgrade kits (which, if it isn't one kit that includes both FO & Resistance, I'm going to be a tad upset.)

But, remember to fly what you love. If you are an imperial guy, those 5 extra interceptors might be all you really want, and a second or third Imperial Upgrade kit is in your future. If you're like me, A-Wings and B-Wings are the end-all of Rebel starfighters, and a second rebel upgrade kit is in the cards instead.

1 hour ago, Morris420 said:

Many many thanks for the feedback and information everyone. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this one!

Next question, if anyone cares enough to answer:

Out of the list I provided, what would everyone suggest I keep, and what would be the ones I should prioritize selling?

I will do a ton of research on this too, but if anyone has any suggestions it'd surely be helpful

TIE/FO Fighters aren't being converted right away and you don't have any other First Order ships so if you don't plan to pick up those ships they might be able to be cut, same with the T-70 for the Resistance. If you do think you'll want to pick those up for some new trilogy themed squads though I'd hang onto them. Aside from that unless you really want them the 5 B-Wings and 6 A-Wings are too many even to max out a standard list full of them, I'd consider losing 1-3 of each depending on how much you love those ships. You also don't technically need the 8 Interceptors, even if they're sexy ships, you could probably drop 4 or even 5 of them (I'd keep the 181st ones and maybe the Royal Guard ones). I'd probably keep all the TIE Fighters even if you can't use them all right away in case you decide to do the fan-made campaign Heroes of the Aturi Cluster, because then you'll want lots of TIEs for your players to blow up but really you should be able to get rid of 2 at least since the new core will come with 2. Even though you have too many defenders for 1 conversion kit I would keep them all because I've had 3 different Defender models have pegs break and it's nice to have spares, plus they're a great ship.

Bear in mind you'll only get a return if you can actually bring yourself to sell things. I'm sure people here will testify that it's much, much harder than you think to take all those unnecessary things off the shelf and let them go

I still have quite a lot of 30yr old Ork archers....

First, 2.0 will play a lot like 1.0. The changes to overall game play are small even if the changes to the meta will be huge.

So the first thing you should do is play a few games and see if you even like it. Once you play a few games, you will know if you want to buy in. Now buying a big used collection is a lot of money up front but you do get a lot right there, so it is a good way to get everything. Now if you enjoy collecting stuff rather than just owning stuff, slowing buying into the 2.0 stuff may be best. Either way you should buy nothing unless you actually like the game itself. If you just like the pretty models, will the 2.0 models will get even prettier, so you should buy those.

I noticed that the FAQ didn’t mention which upgrade cards are going to be included in the conversion kits. Is there anywhere where someone was able to ask FFG directly about this?

Don't buy any 1st edition stuff. If you buy the conversion kit, you'll have everything you need except the plastic ships, which you can probably buy cheap on eBay from all the people who are selling stuff now.

It is a good deal. Also, don't think that FFG is bringing out a 2E because 1E is not good. 1E was/has been around for like 6 years and is a very excellent game, it just got... unwieldy and needed a hard reset. The framework of 2E will hopefully future proof it so FFG doesn't have to release a 3E.

1 hour ago, Kieransi said:

Don't buy any 1st edition stuff. If you buy the conversion kit, you'll have everything you need except the plastic ships, which you can probably buy cheap on eBay from all the people who are selling stuff now.

That's what the OP was about, buying 89 ship models for under $300.