Keep in mind Solo takes place a good 8-10 years before the OT. Thats alot of time in between. This thing may have been phased out in that period or its very specialised, or just not cost efficient for mass production.

The other point I’d like to make is the Empire is a galactic wide military industrial complex. Making new and more varied weapons of war is their business. Some end up becoming ubiquitous symbols of the Empire, others end up being not so viable and get phased out or some being more specialised and theatre specific. All these new pre OT designs don’t bother me at all because the Empire is all about creating new weapons of war.

12 hours ago, Forresto said:

When you watch a WW2 movie do they show you every single type of vehicle and armerment used in the scope of the war? No they dont.

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In the film Dunkirk the Germans are seen using what are meant to be Stuka but we don't come out of the theatre assuming they don't use dozens of other designs.

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Or watch the Battle of Britain film ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain_(film) ) and realise you dont see a single Me109......

(they're all the Spanish HA-1112)... so what does that mean in context, its called local vairent models because you cant get the parts of the original (in the 109 case its just the engines were different)

And then we have this lovely aircraft.... despite being good at what it did they removed it from service for manufacturing reasons........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Whirlwind_(fighter)

On 5/3/2018 at 7:09 PM, TallGiraffe said:

I bet an Imp Squadron pack they steal one.

If "they" = Sabine, yup, can totally see it.

Rebels sort of explains the hammerheads as they were provided by Bail and after a New Hope, Bail and his people are not around to support the Rebels.

15 hours ago, slasher956 said:

Or watch the Battle of Britain film ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain_(film) ) and realise you dont see a single Me109......

(they're all the Spanish HA-1112)... so what does that mean in context, its called local vairent models because you cant get the parts of the original (in the 109 case its just the engines were different)

And then we have this lovely aircraft.... despite being good at what it did they removed it from service for manufacturing reasons........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Whirlwind_(fighter)

The Whirlwind was my favorite British WW 2 fighter of all time. If only they'd replaced it's unreliable Peregrines with Merlins, It would have excelled as a multi-role fighter. ?

twin engine fighters are underrepresented in movies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_110

I still think out of the twin engines the Fokker G.I had the best design. had 8 machinegunes in the nose, and one for the gunner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_G.I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_P-38_Lightning

Throw in the British Bristol Beaufighter and German Focke-Wulf Fw-187 Falke while you're at it ?

27 minutes ago, idiewell said:

Throw in the British Bristol Beaufighter and German Focke-Wulf Fw-187 Falke while you're at it ?

is 3 in the morning, YOU do it.

On 5/4/2018 at 3:00 AM, JRockNZ said:

I quite like it but i think that it should have kept its basic blasters under the cockpit as well as the additional heavy blasters on the side.

In Armada:

• Abilities: lose swarm
• Anti squadron: 2 blue, 1 black
• Anti Ship: 1 red
• Points: 8 points

Reasons:

• Ship looks a bit unwieldy compared to a standard tie
• Heavy canons so add a black with a higher % of doing damage to squadrons or ships

Something like this?

2 black are as powerful as 3 blue against squadrons (1,5 damage; 2blue, 1 black would be 1,75), but wont grant you Accuracies, fitting to larger cannons that also grant longer range (Snipe 1).

1 Red antiship grants the possibility of a double hit with the large cannons.

Yeah, it's up on wookieepedia. As far as the blurb say, the "weapon pod" is heavier laser cannons (I was really hoping for turbolaser cannons there).

Can we just for the love of god get some god damned tie interceptors in a star wars movie again? They're the sexiest looking thing around next to the X-wing.

One thing I can't stand about the sequals is the omission of the interceptor, the newer, more technologically advanced craft, and yet they're still using the old tie fighter model just upgraded some?

9 hours ago, Belisarius09 said:

Can we just for the love of god get some god damned tie interceptors in a star wars movie again? They're the sexiest looking thing around next to the X-wing.

One thing I can't stand about the sequals is the omission of the interceptor, the newer, more technologically advanced craft, and yet they're still using the old tie fighter model just upgraded some?

The earliest we've seen a TIE Interceptor is 2BBY.

SOLO takes place around 10BBY.

The TIE Interceptor probably hasn't left Sienar Fleet Systems' RnD Department yet.

On 5/7/2018 at 10:09 AM, DScipio said:

Something like this?

2 black are as powerful as 3 blue against squadrons (1,5 damage; 2blue, 1 black would be 1,75), but wont grant you Accuracies, fitting to larger cannons that also grant longer range (Snipe 1).

1 Red antiship grants the possibility of a double hit with the large cannons.

Seems reasonable. I wonder how fast it is. I’d hope it’s slower than a standard TIE.

3 hours ago, Indy_com said:

The earliest we've seen a TIE Interceptor is 2BBY.

SOLO takes place around 10BBY.

The TIE Interceptor probably hasn't left Sienar Fleet Systems' RnD Department yet.

Based on the Databank, they were first deployed 16 years after ROTS - so, 3BBY, the previous year.

next imperial expansion will be: medium size imperial dreadnaught support ship with 2 tie heavy

rebels will get combat flotilla gunships with U-wings.

obligatory SSD too.

On 5/3/2018 at 10:21 AM, Admiral Litje said:

I mean, the Empire valued numbers as opposed to quality. But new variants aren’t a problem IMO, as there are obviously many different environments, and requirements in the galaxy

Supposedly one of these TIEs hunted the Millenium Falcon after the battle of Yavin but I don’t know.

How do you feel about Defenders/Phantoms?

for supposedly learning of the Empire's mistakes the technologically superior FO sure chose the wrong TIE to base their forces off of. I would have replaced the TIE/fo with the TIE/d and the TIE/sf with the TIE aggressor, you know, promesing ships from the empire's experimental program.

And don't bull**** me about cost, they knew that doesnt work and if they cared why did they upgrade them at all, they could have instead gotten a good fighter and used their advanced technology to make production cheaper.

I know micky wanted fanfactor but I would have preferred that they used an obscure TIE that fans could go "I know that's from the empire's X program!" even the X1 would have been better

if you build strong starfighters how are you going to get rid of people that you want to get rid off?

far easier to set them up on tie fighter patrol duty through a dangerous area.

11 hours ago, mad mandolorian said:

for supposedly learning of the Empire's mistakes the technologically superior FO sure chose the wrong TIE to base their forces off of. I would have replaced the TIE/fo with the TIE/d and the TIE/sf with the TIE aggressor, you know, promesing ships from the empire's experimental program.

And don't bull**** me about cost, they knew that doesnt work and if they cared why did they upgrade them at all, they could have instead gotten a good fighter and used their advanced technology to make production cheaper.

I know micky wanted fanfactor but I would have preferred that they used an obscure TIE tha  t fans could go "I know that's from the empire's X program!" even the X1 would have been better

Some one introduce this man to how military equipment procurement works...... (or not as more often the case ? )

contractors A - I'll take this good design improve it to awsome it will cost you 2 arms and a leg

contractor B - I'll take this mediocre design improve it to awsome it will cost you an arm

Contractor B gets the nod to build the equipment.... mediocre design become ok to good... it costs an arm and a leg with the added pain of having to send it back to the contractor to repair when it brakes instead of fixing it in theatre by the guys and girls using it....

"experience is like pessimism with the added flavour of already having seen it"

28 minutes ago, slasher956 said:

brakes

what is with people and not understanding homophones

when something breaks it becomes broken

when something brakes ( usualy a vehicle) it decelerates.

You’re aware that this thread isn’t about the FO, right?

12 hours ago, mad mandolorian said:

I know micky wanted fanfactor but I would have preferred

No use reasoning then. But I’ll try.

Has it occurred to you that we are only two films into the new trilogy, and have already come across three different TIE variants? Who is to say we won’t see a Legends inspired Agressor or X1? Seems as Disney is more than happy to incorporate Legends material.

Who said the FO had “advanced” technology? It is my understanding that they upgraded TIEs with shields, something common on any other military vessel, oh and a hyper dive, co-pilot and extra gun in the TIE/sf. This truly is a ruinous day for all fans! Go and apply for the FO and save us, mad mandalorian!

1 hour ago, Geressen said:

what is with people and not understanding homophones

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In my case its called Dyspraxia*....with a side order of dyslexia ....

so yeah thanks for taking the pi$$ \sarcasm.... (note its not how you mean it .. its how its taken as if a comment is an insult or a joke)

*thanks to wonderful goverment policies not officially diagnosed until my mid 30's....

1 hour ago, slasher956 said:

so yeah thanks for taking the pi$$ \sarcasm.... (note its not how you mean it .. its how its taken as if a comment is an insult or a joke)

it's more wonderment at the sheer ammoutn of people who do not understand the difference, I argue with people in English all the time on the internet and these are native English speaking people 75% of which do not seem to grasp the difference between to/too your/you're their/they're brake/break and then try to tell me they prefer homeschooling their kids while trying to convince me of their terrible alt right ideas none of which stand up to scrutiny.

so to protect my sanity I decided to just be a massive **** whenever I come across similar mistakes.

Assumption makes an A$$ out of us all....

?

7 minutes ago, Geressen said:

it's more wonderment at the sheer ammoutn of people who do not understand the difference, I argue with people in English all the time on the internet and these are native English speaking people 75% of which do not seem to grasp the difference between to/too your/you're their/they're brake/break and then try to tell me they prefer homeschooling their kids while trying to convince me of their terrible alt right ideas none of which stand up to scrutiny.

so to protect my sanity I decided to just be a massive **** whenever I come across similar mistakes.

Glass houses and all that.

And I am aware with my own “auto carrot” mistakes I am being exceptionally hypocritical... That seems to be the theme.

Note: Being a **** about it is never a good answer. It’s an answer, alright... but not a good one.

I went through a big period of time on this very forum where people actively made fun of my typing pattern, brought on by my work in transcription and adhering to a certain style guide of Over Capitalization and emphasis by bold, italic, etc.

It’s not fun.

It’s not educational.

On 5/5/2018 at 1:54 AM, Geressen said:

twin engine fighters are underrepresented in movies

The exception being the de Havilland Mosquito, which has film all to itself in 633 squadron. Speaking of which the TIE/rb actually reminds me of the Mosquito FB Mk XVIII which had a 6 pound (57 mm) anti tank cannon fitted. Designed to target U-boats it was highly effective, so this isn't as stupid a concept as it might seem. It also looks like the gun mount could rotate, which would be very sensible as it helps with a ground attack role.