Tie Advanced 2.0 seems meh

By Darth evil, in X-Wing

1 minute ago, CMDR Ytterium said:

Its really good, but one use seems underwhelming to me.

Being able to just say "No" to a proton torp sounds good to me.

10 minutes ago, CMDR Ytterium said:

Its really good, but one use seems underwhelming to me.

More than one use would be disconcerningly broken. One use already is very strong and would be so in the current game, even. It is selflessness, but you don't even take the damage! She is the perfect wingmate for Howlrunner, really.

On 5/3/2018 at 6:47 PM, ficklegreendice said:

after this attack you may perform this attack as a bonus attack...

oh no, game isn't out yet and we're already getting FAQ worthy cards

Bonus Attack should be defined the same way currently double attacks are defined to prevent you from chaining more attacks.

Oh nevermind I thought it only worked on one damage! sorry ?

2 hours ago, CMDR Ytterium said:

Its really good, but one use seems underwhelming to me.

Yeah, it's basically like Selflessness except way better.

Howrunner + Iden + 5 TIEs looks strong.

Also the developers have said that none of the costs are finalized yet. They have numbers they are using for testing, but everything is still up in the air. They are trying to keep it at 4 X-wings max. I don't know if they are going to keep the generic TIE Advanced around the same cost or not.

Edited by MajorJuggler

I mean, the generic Advance HAS to be cheaper if the X-wing is retaining its 4 ship cost

it isn't as powerful, though that's perfectly in line for what is merely an advanced TIE fighter

Edited by ficklegreendice

4 X-wings seems like good number because the Rebels are quality over quantity according to the fluff.

On 5/3/2018 at 6:00 AM, LordBlades said:

A photo of it from world's appeared on the Mynock FB group last night. You can (presumably) TL, then spend a Force token to Focus and BR if needed.

Only thing I dislike is that, unlike other ships, like Fenn Rau for example, BR is the 2nd linked action. This means you will have to TL, spend Force for Focus and decide to get a stress for a BR before you know for sure if BR will give you range/arc.

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hmm, so if no force tokens it is not possible to targetlock then barrelroll, but then you regain one every turn, so not much of problem.... would have liked to see boost though.

5 minutes ago, Sciencius said:

hmm, so if no force tokens it is not possible to targetlock then barrelroll, but then you regain one every turn, so not much of problem.... would have liked to see boost though.

Afterburners will help a bit.

Edit: You can t-roll into a boost with Afterburners.

Edited by HolySorcerer

I'm sure this was pointed out before, but the Advanced has no Evade action, I notice.

Plus the Talon Roll (super stoked about this).

Just now, Incard said:

I'm sure this was pointed out before, but the Advanced has no Evade action, I notice.

I think that couples well with the nerf to evade.

Edited by impspy
6 minutes ago, impspy said:

I think that couples well with the nerf to evade.

+ Vader's "for-cus"

would be kinda silly

1 minute ago, ficklegreendice said:

+ Vader's "for-cus"

would be kinda silly

Eh, still can't go over your agility value. It is a bit weird that they nerfed the ability, then removed it from the Imperial ships that used it.

Why is it the imp players are already on the imp ships suck this is so unfair bandwagon. Even on the world's stream the imp fans were just terrible, I really hope imp ships are competitive in 2.0, but to the people already complaining, it's just pathetic.

3 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

Eh, still can't go over your agility value. It is a bit weird that they nerfed the ability, then removed it from the Imperial ships that used it.

just the advance, so far, though I can't confirm the striker

fighter, phantom, interceptor confirmed to have it

and reaper, though Feroph couldn't care less for it

Edited by ficklegreendice
6 minutes ago, garciaj113 said:

Why is it the imp players are already on the imp ships suck this is so unfair bandwagon. Even on the world's stream the imp fans were just terrible, I really hope imp ships are competitive in 2.0, but to the people already complaining, it's just pathetic.

From what I have seen and my extrapolation Vader is going to be an absolute power house, even if he never uses his ability that bank of 3 force tokens is crazy powerful.

The streams all have him with fire control (new version) and I am thinking advanced sensors for repositioning insanity and the ability to clear that linked red action or token up hard before a talon.

Vader is a beast of a ship.

And yes some of the stream players flying the imperial list were utter garbage with them.

Edited by Icelom
2 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

just the advance, so far, though I can't confirm the striker

fighter, phantom, interceptor confirmed to have it

and reaper, though Feroph couldn't care less for it

After the nerf the Advanced is the only one who could really make use of it though. With three agility focus is the better option. It’s not like you can PtL for focus evade anymore.

2 minutes ago, Icelom said:

From what I have seen and my extrapolation Vader is going to be an absolute power house, even if he never uses his ability that bank of 3 force tokens is crazy powerful.

The streams all have him with fire control (new version) and I am thinking advanced sensors for repositioning insanity and the ability to clear that linked red action or token up hard before a talon.

Vader is a beast of a ship.

And yes some of the stream players flying the imperial list were utter garbage with them.

Advanced sensors isn’t Vader friendly.

6 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

After the nerf the Advanced is the only one who could really make use of it though. With three agility focus is the better option. It’s not like you can PtL for focus evade anymore.

Not necessarily

Palpatine throwing out a for-cus to anyone would exacerbate evades. If lwf still exists, or if stealth device is cheap enough, that could be annoying on a reaper

Phantoms can use it to recloak if they take it but end up not needing it (recloak action only seems relevant if you could lose your evade to something like jam). Stygium also grants free evade on decloak

Stuff like fleet officer might still be around. Rebels get stuff like garven and twotubes, after all. There also potential kallus or isaard

Juke still exists

Possibilities remain

Edited by ficklegreendice

Lightweight frame had better be dead. That was a hackjob excuse they used for giving us 2 agility TIEs. Steal our agility, the only thing keeping us on the table, and then sell us back an inferior version of it. Hopefully they will take this opportunity to upgrade a few of our 2-agility ships to the 3-agility that they always should have been.

Ehh, I think Lightweight isn't needed, as the offensive creep should hopefully be limited, which is why it was needed in the first place.

2 minutes ago, Sithborg said:

Ehh, I think Lightweight isn't needed, as the offensive creep should hopefully be limited, which is why it was needed in the first place.

It was a fix for underfenced ships those ships will themselves be fixed. (Cheaper or better defence or whatever else)

Just now, Sithborg said:

Ehh, I think Lightweight isn't needed, as the offensive creep should hopefully be limited, which is why it was needed in the first place.

As soon as they introduced it they became very conservative with our agility. I think they got gun shy with Fel's token stacking and decided 3 agility was too much, so they introduced this tax on some pseduo-agility and started releasing 2-agility TIEs. I hope it's dead and gone and we get our native 3-agility back.

1 hour ago, HolySorcerer said:

Advanced sensors isn’t Vader friendly.

it never was

Just now, skotothalamos said:

it never was

Well, technically in 1.0 Vader wasn't AdvSens friendly. Now AdvSens isn't Vader or Afterburners friendly.