i just noticed the Xwing has a focus action but the TIEAdv does not

Wtf?

1 minute ago, Vineheart01 said:

i just noticed the Xwing has a focus action but the TIEAdv does not

Wtf?

You sure?

1 minute ago, Vineheart01 said:

i just noticed the Xwing has a focus action but the TIEAdv does not

Wtf?

Yeah it does. AFAIK linked actions mean you can do the 2nd action, not that you have to.

Im probably confused as to what that icon > icon action means.

To me, that looks like "Spend this to do this" - im guessing thats actually the new psuedo PTL instead?

1 minute ago, Vineheart01 said:

Im probably confused as to what that icon > icon action means.

To me, that looks like "Spend this to do this" - im guessing thats actually the new psuedo PTL instead?

Yes. Do a focus and if you wish carry onto the next action.

Just now, Vineheart01 said:

Im probably confused as to what that icon > icon action means.

To me, that looks like "Spend this to do this" - im guessing thats actually the new psuedo PTL instead?

Yup. On the TIE Advanced it reads: you can do a Focus; afterward you can also do a Barrel Roll and get a Stress.

1 minute ago, Vineheart01 said:

Im probably confused as to what that icon > icon action means.

To me, that looks like "Spend this to do this" - im guessing thats actually the new psuedo PTL instead?

Exactly correct.

This thread:

So if vader's new ability is spend a force for an action, that technically means he can either spend 1 to do all 3 actions and get stressed or spend 2 to do all 3 w/o stress.
Now thats neat, i like it.

Linked actions or basically the only way most pilots are able to do two actions without some synergy from another upgrade card or ship. Push the Limit does not exist in 2.0 (for now anyway).

You are going to be a lot more action starved in 2.0 then the crazy amount of action stacking 1.0 currently offers. Vader seems really good as he can do as many actions as he has force tokens.

Looks like they are trying to get away from all the passive mods that we got in 1.0. Predator is much worse (needs to be in bullseye to work), probably won't have expertise or it will be a lot worse. Blocking is going to actually matter again.

Yeah, and if he has Advanced Sensors he can avoid the stress and run into things and get actions. If he has Afterburners, it looks like he'll get limited boost access as well. Dude's shaping up to be a total boss.

9 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Yeah, and if he has Advanced Sensors he can avoid the stress and run into things and get actions. If he has Afterburners, it looks like he'll get limited boost access as well. Dude's shaping up to be a total boss.

sensors have been nerfed hard, going by the team cov game

they're on two-tubes (U-wing), and they don't let you perform more than one action if you use them. (perform one action before revealing dial. you cannot perform another action during your activation

so, Vader's going FCS (which has also been nerfed, it now only gives 1 re-roll when shooting against enemies you have target-locked. but it's not bad for the Advance which will be throwing out TLs anyway)

other advance, however...

but yes, assuming Afterburners isn't superjacked on high initiative (and lets be fair, it really should be) then yeah, it'll make Vader extra nuts. Just between his force powers + ability + FCS, though, you already have a scary ship

so i guess the question there about adv sensors is whats an action?

Is it specifically one action, or one of the "boxes" on your pilot/upgrade cards?

Potentially you can still do the chain-actions with adv sensors but no other bonus actions. Which would make Vader not want this but other TIEAdv might

3 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

so i guess the question there about adv sensors is whats an action?

Is it specifically one action, or one of the "boxes" on your pilot/upgrade cards?

Potentially you can still do the chain-actions with adv sensors but no other bonus actions. Which would make Vader not want this but other TIEAdv might

pretty sure every icon is an action

these ACTION --> ACTION icons are basically just replacing PTL with more manageable action efficiencies

so we don't have to worry about ships with evade stacking focus + evade etc.

but AS WITH EVERYTHING HERE, it all depends on cost

if sensors are cheap, especially on low initiative pilots, it'll be incredible on the TL dependent TIE Advance even if you can't action chain

11 hours ago, LordBlades said:

At least Vader looks pretty solid IMO. So far it's the only ship we've seen capable of double-modded shots.

Anything that can equip FCS can do double mods.

1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:

Anything that can equip FCS can do double mods.

1.5mod not doublemod

Remember FCS is changing to a single reroll if you have a Tlock. Meaning if you already had a targetlock and now you are focusing, you are either doublemodded or 1.5 modded because fo 1 reroll.

FCS itself doesnt help.

Vader so far is the only pilot that on his own in one action phase can get both focus/targetlock. Everyone else so far can only do one or the other and at best get a single-die-mod on top of the one action.

great, now I made myself excited at the prospect of generic advance running around with 1 point advance sensors

13 hours ago, Darth evil said:

whether it costs more or less doesn't discount it being an inferior ship

Darth Vader at 12 points (on the 200 point scale!) would be the best ship in the game, though.

53 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

So if vader's new ability is spend a force for an action, that technically means he can either spend 1 to do all 3 actions and get stressed or spend 2 to do all 3 w/o stress.
Now thats neat, i like it.

Yeah, so far its looking like Vader is going to be a beast, but they also said that (what I am assuming is fully kitted out) he's going to be over 80 pts out of 200.

2 hours ago, impspy said:

I have enough faith in FFG that they'll get Vader right this time (granted, in 1.0 he was no slouch but only solid B-tier at best).

Hey, he was total A-tier for like a week! Then TLT dropped...

3 minutes ago, kris40k said:

Yeah, so far its looking like Vader is going to be a beast, but they also said that (what I am assuming is fully kitted out) he's going to be over 80 pts out of 200.

you could definitely drop those cluster missiles though

they really weren't doing him any good ?

The Advanced is getting a 1-straight. That alone makes it superior to the 1.0 version.

Vader has been seen and done some heavy work for quite a long time...

TLT nonwithstanding (which thank freakin GOD those are gone, and harpoons)

edit: IT HAS A 1FWD?! OMG YES!

5 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Vader has been seen and done some heavy work for quite a long time...

TLT nonwithstanding (which thank freakin GOD those are gone, and harpoons)

edit: IT HAS A 1FWD?! OMG YES!

A white 1-fwd, which may be the first time we've seen that on a dial? It's also getting Tallon Rolls to match the T-65.

4 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

A white 1-fwd, which may be the first time we've seen that on a dial? It's also getting Tallon Rolls to match the T-65.

Shadow Casters have white 1-straights, to the consternation of double Caster players everywhere...