3 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I can't believe in X-wing 2.0 if the Vader + 4 TIE/ln squads shown on stream are NOT worth (at least) the same as 7 TIE/lns

current Vader is often worth 3 Academy pilots

Like i said it is something we need to figure out. Perhaps there are some limitations on how many ships of the same type you can fly or perhaps the point costs have changed dramaticly. Or there are just not enough dials for a full swarm.

I wish they would give us the squad builder now so we could check it out right now. I love squad builders

@Animewarsdude thanks for keeping us up to date here.

Just now, Cr0aker said:

The next few months are going to be nail biters, lol. They probably don't want an unofficial launching of the game on vassal before release.

Well they kept making comments of how we were going to get all these articles in the near future for the site about 2.0 until the game's launch so who knows what all they will show off.

1 minute ago, Reaver027 said:

Like i said it is something we need to figure out. Perhaps there are some limitations on how many ships of the same type you can fly or perhaps the point costs have changed dramaticly. Or there are just not enough dials for a full swarm.

I wish they would give us the squad builder now so we could check it out right now. I love squad builders

Or if that means that is good skilled mini swarms instead of Initiative 1 Academy swarms with a leader.

1 minute ago, Animewarsdude said:

Well they kept making comments of how we were going to get all these articles in the near future for the site about 2.0 until the game's launch so who knows what all they will show off.

they probably will release as much as they can to help convert those on the fence to not jump over and run away.

3 hours ago, Animewarsdude said:

Ion tokens make it so the only action you can take is a Focus action, meaning that Droids get hit harder by ion tokens.

Just me, or...does this mean ion-dealing weapons have totally stomped all over the mechanic for stress-dealing weapons?

That is - you get ionized, then you can only do focus actions until you clear the ion tokens (which I recall they said get cleared by taking a blue maneuver).

When stressed...you can do no actions until you clear the stress tokens (which...are cleared by doing a blue maneuver).

Doesn't that just make the new ion weapons slightly weaker stress weapons (AKA flechette cannons/torps/etc)?

Just now, Animewarsdude said:

Well they kept making comments of how we were going to get all these articles in the near future for the site about 2.0 until the game's launch so who knows what all they will show off.

Those comments talk about "upcoming months".

2.0 (pre-) launches at Gencon in three months, by that time we should know everything.

2 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

Or if that means that is good skilled mini swarms instead of Initiative 1 Academy swarms with a leader.

the real reason we don't see 7+ TIE/lns?

good luck getting players to make flying swarms look easy and intuitive on stream ?

3 minutes ago, xanderf said:

Just me, or...does this mean ion-dealing weapons have totally stomped all over the mechanic for stress-dealing weapons?

That is - you get ionized, then you can only do focus actions until you clear the ion tokens (which I recall they said get cleared by taking a blue maneuver).

When stressed...you can do no actions until you clear the stress tokens (which...are cleared by doing a blue maneuver).

Doesn't that just make the new ion weapons slightly weaker stress weapons (AKA flechette cannons/torps/etc)?

You clear Ion just like now, all at once after a 1 forward, except the 1 forward is blue, not white, and you can only take focus after it.

Edit But they said they want to reduce stress control in favour of ion and jam

9 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I can't believe in X-wing 2.0 if the Vader + 4 TIE/ln squads shown on stream are NOT worth (at least) the same as 7 TIE/lns

current Vader is often worth 3 Academy pilots, and given how sweet force powers seem I can't imagine him being worth less than that in 2.0

basically, if Vader + 4 TIE/Lns = Squad, then 7+ TIE/Lns = squad

The ships weren't naked or the cheapest, so a naked swarm of academy-s could be 8 ships.

5 minutes ago, Reaver027 said:

Like i said it is something we need to figure out. Perhaps there are some limitations on how many ships of the same type you can fly or perhaps the point costs have changed dramaticly. Or there are just not enough dials for a full swarm.

I wish they would give us the squad builder now so we could check it out right now. I love squad builders

@Animewarsdude thanks for keeping us up to date here.

I heard that the points limit was doubled and that the price of a TIE fighter was also doubled so still just 8 fighters in a list. I presume that with the exception of 1-2pt rebaleces that's going to happen to all existing ships

4 minutes ago, eMeM said:

You clear Ion just like now, all at once after a 1 forward, except the 1 forward is blue, not white, and you can only take focus after it.

Edit But they said they want to reduce stress control in favour of ion and jam

I think you get to make any blue speed 1 maneuver instead of just 1 straights. Might be mistaken on that.

4 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

I think you get to make any blue speed 1 maneuver instead of just 1 straights. Might be mistaken on that.

Yeah, I could have sworn that is what they said in the initial TC video - but we never found out, the Y-Wing died too soon.

Which was the source of the question - if it really is any blue maneuver, then it really just seems like a strictly-worse [less effective] stress.

Just now, xanderf said:

Yeah, I could have sworn that is what they said in the initial TC video - but we never found out, the Y-Wing died too soon.

Which was the source of the question - if it really is any blue maneuver, than it really just seems like a strictly-worse [less effective] stress.

Well a Fang Fighter just got Ioned on the stream, hopefully they will address it here in a sec.

2 minutes ago, xanderf said:

Yeah, I could have sworn that is what they said in the initial TC video - but we never found out, the Y-Wing died too soon.

Which was the source of the question - if it really is any blue maneuver, then it really just seems like a strictly-worse [less effective] stress.

Pretty certain it is a blue 1 straight, can only focus afterward.

Arvel can boost into a bump!

if its a blue 1straight then the "stress/ion walkstrat" is even easier to do now.
If its just any blue, then its more of a dial "limiter" rather than removal and you atleast still get a focus. Which i would be fine with, makes ion painful but not utterly crippling.

4 minutes ago, xanderf said:

Yeah, I could have sworn that is what they said in the initial TC video - but we never found out, the Y-Wing died too soon.

Which was the source of the question - if it really is any blue maneuver, then it really just seems like a strictly-worse [less effective] stress.

It's more effective, actually

You HAVE to perform a blue and can only perform focus

Pretty sure you can't chain into anything, like you could after clearing stress

1 minute ago, Vineheart01 said:

if its a blue 1straight then the "stress/ion walkstrat" is even easier to do now.
If its just any blue, then its more of a dial "limiter" rather than removal and you atleast still get a focus. Which i would be fine with, makes ion painful but not utterly crippling.

Again, I don't think so. The way the ion weapons are worded, you need to have 2 uncanceled results to ion me, rather than 1. the Ion effect's power is greater in a vacuum, but worse when compared to stress.

3 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

It's more effective, actually

You HAVE to perform a blue and can only perform focus

Pretty sure you can't chain into anything, like you could after clearing stress

If this is the case however, that would be Ideal.

If I recall, it as just a 1 blue straight.

8 minutes ago, Sithborg said:

Arvel can boost into a bump!

did they show A-Wing stats??!!

Wait, they neutered ion control?

wonder if Ion needs to stack on large ships still and if so how do medium ships fit in to that.

2 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

did they show A-Wing stats??!!

Same as before, but they can I think link into boost for pretty much anything.

2 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

did they show A-Wing stats??!!

No, they talked about it. It can apparently boost after taking an action.

1 minute ago, Alpha17 said:

Wait, they neutered ion control?

Yes and no. They made it less frustrating, and harder to ion. Large ships need 3 ion tokens.

Just now, Vineheart01 said:

wonder if Ion needs to stack on large ships still and if so how do medium ships fit in to that.

2 for Medium, 3 for Large to ion ships.

1 minute ago, Sithborg said:

Yes and no. They made it less frustrating, and harder to ion. Large ships need 3 ion tokens.

Sort of, Ion Turrets now make it so that you do 1 damage and all other hits you roll become Ion tokens. So, with a good roll and being at range 1 you could possibly roll 4 hits and ionize a large ship with one good shot.