Just an FYI for everyone to consider before pulling the trigger on Conversion Kits........It appears from the Team Covenant article that there will probably be upgrade cards in future re-release blisters that will not be in the Conversion Kits forcing you to re-buy your older ships anyway if you want the new upgrade cards and pilots not available in the Conversion Kit. https://teamcovenant.com/learning/star-wars-x-wing/everything-need-know-x-wing-second-edition-x2-reboot

from the TC blog article......

"So for many of us the first wave will consist of ships that we already have. We are pretty sure that these re-releases will still have new content in them though, like pilots and upgrades that are not in the Conversion Kits, as well as the aforementioned re-sculpt factor. We already know that the new X-wing has moving S-Foils and the new Y-wing looks incredible, so…"

This is important info that NEEDS to be clarified by FFG.

That quote is specifically referencing the first wave, and we already know it doesn’t have any content not in the conversion kits (other than the models themselves). So we know they are wrong on that point.

Don't we get the app for this sort of problem?

Granted having the cards is more convenient and cool

1 minute ago, ficklegreendice said:

Don't we get the app for this sort of problem?

Granted having the cards is more convenient and cool 

You won't be able to play organized events/tournaments without all the physical pilot cards/upgrade cards for your list. The app is just for list building...you still need to bring the physical gear to play.

9 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

That quote is specifically referencing the first wave, and we already know it doesn’t have any content not in the conversion kits (other than the models themselves). So we know they are wrong on that point.

Team Covenant is a very reputable site and those guys have the inside track with FFG ....I doubt they will make this statement without be pretty certain on the facts.

I fully expect this to happen. Maybe not in the first few waves but as all the older ships get reprinted in the new format and FFG needs to spice the game up and give a reason to sell the new reprints, yes, they will have to have new content in them. My hope is they at least do a new paint job, if not new models for the updated ships, so those too get refreshed.

Happy about rebuying everything? Depends on the quality of the replacement. Maybe not such a bad thing, maybe just an annoying as **** cash grab. Wait and see and give them the opportunely to swing that bat before calling fowl.

Just now, DesignXception said:

Team Covenant is a very reputable site and those guys have the inside track with FFG ....I doubt they will make this statement without be pretty certain on the facts.

Yeah, it is puzzling, but FFG themselves said all the new stuff from this first wave is in the conversion packs.

Maybe the TC guys were thinking subsequent waves? That seems rather more likely. The conversion packs can’t include content that hasn’t been designed yet. Not sure how that is going to be any different from releasing aces packs with new cards though.

1 minute ago, DesignXception said:

Team Covenant is a very reputable site and those guys have the inside track with FFG ....I doubt they will make this statement without be pretty certain on the facts.

Team Covenant let the 2.0 cat out of the bag months ago and clearly had these videos ready to go days if not weeks before this announcement. Now they aren't the brightest bulbs in the pack but they aren't dumb either. I doubt that was a mistake full on.

Well, the demo video clearly shows Frank with a different level of facial hair than he has today.

The problem is there are folks out their thinking they won't have to buy anything that is re-released for the next couple years because it will be in the Conversion Kit which is NOT true. In the end you may be better off forgoing purchasing the Conversion Kits and letting your existing models go and just purchase all the new blisters including the new re-releases to get "everything" needed to play particularly competitively.

4 minutes ago, DesignXception said:

In the end you may be better off forgoing purchasing the Conversion Kits and letting your existing models go and just purchase all the new blisters including the new re-releases to get "everything" needed to play particularly competitively.

"You're buying a new game. You just don't think you're buying a new game."

Fly casual.

7 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

Yeah, it is puzzling, but FFG themselves said all the new stuff from this first wave is in the conversion packs.

Maybe the TC guys were thinking subsequent waves? That seems rather more likely. The conversion packs can’t include content that hasn’t been designed yet. Not sure how that is going to be any different from releasing aces packs with new cards though. 

I agree...it is becoming apparent that the Conversion Kits will give you the dials and initial pilot and upgrade cards to field your old collection immediately but you will find yourself needing to repurchase the re-released blisters to get new and better upgrade cards and pilot cards anyway from Wave 2 onwards. This is HUGE in terms of a need for clarification because I already see folks making some serious mis-assumptions regarding what you really get in the Conversion Kits.

OH MY GOODNESS! We still need to buy ships to keep this game alive! X wing 2.0 is........ The same thing we've always been doing (but better, with no cross- faction buy in) .

1 hour ago, thebrettski said:

(but better, with no cross- faction buy in) .

Yeah, they tried to do that initially, didn;'t work out too well. The only way I can see them doing that is if they develop the upgrade cards for each wave and then just duplicate them for each faction. so if a wave has 1 ship for each faction, each of those ships will have the exact same (non-faction specific) upgrade cards, in which case those of us who buy everything are going to end up with a lot of copies of each card.

1 hour ago, thebrettski said:

X wing 2.0 is........ The same thing we've always been doing (but better, with no cross- faction buy in) .

and there is an exercise in selective quotation, @Forgottenlore. Again, it is nothing we haven't been doing already over the last x years.

7 minutes ago, thebrettski said:

and there is an exercise in selective quotation, @Forgottenlore. Again, it is nothing we haven't been doing already over the last x years.

Huh?

13 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

Huh?

I mean how many proton torpedos do you have? Sure, if you're going all in, you're going to have multiple copies of things. But.... Its always been that way.

I used to have a starviper at my work desk that had a sign that said "Don't be a Guri." The point was that the starviper was notorious for being a pair of autothrusters, and i didnt want to be a one trick pony, i wanted to be the whole package. 2.0 makes less starviper blisters.

I still have no idea what you're trying to say or why you mentioned me.

All I did was comment on the difficulty FFG is going to have keeping their promise to not force cross faction buys.

“In addition, the T-65 X-Wing Expansion Pack contains a few entirely new cards that have never before appeared in the game's first edition. These new cards and associated punchboard are also included in the Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit for the benefit of veteran players!”

“In addition, the BTL-A4 Y-Wing Expansion Pack contains a few entirely new cards that have never before appeared in the game's first edition. These new cards and associated punchboard are also included in the Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit for the benefit of veteran players!”

”In addition, the TIE/ln Fighter Expansion Pack contains a few entirely new cards that have never before appeared in the game's first edition. These new cards and associated punchboard are also included in the Galactic Empire Conversion Kit for the benefit of veteran players!”

“The TIE Advanced x1 Expansion Pack also contains a few entirely new cards that have never before appeared in the game's first edition. These new cards and associated punchboard are included in the Galactic Empire Conversion Kit for the benefit of veteran players!”

“In addition, the Slave I Expansion Pack contains a few entirely new cards that have never before appeared in the game's first edition. These new cards and associated punchboard are included in the Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit for the benefit of veteran players!”

“In addition, the Fang Fighter Expansion Pack contains a few entirely new cards that have never before appeared in the game's first edition. These new cards and associated punchboard are included in the Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit for the benefit of veteran players!”

#fakenews

I think that with every wave they should release a cheap card pack with the new upgrades you don't get if I went the conversion kit route... Otherwise they are gonna get riots, some people have way more ships than they already need... Sure the models will be upgraded, but it doesn't justify buying them

Well, yeah, rereleases will eventually have cards that aren't in the conversion. Not sure what's shocking about that. To do otherwise will greatly limit the game for the next several waves.

2 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

Well, yeah, rereleases will eventually have cards that aren't in the conversion. Not sure what's shocking about that. To do otherwise will greatly limit the game for the next several waves.

Not so. They have said that re-releases will be done but at the same time new ships will continue to be released as before. Therefore new upgrades etc can be done in the new ship packs but when they re-release old ships with new sculpts and pilots they can stick to content that is in the conversion kits. This would make a very large difference as to the value of conversion kits and will give players a very real idea of the true cost to update the existing collections they own.

10 minutes ago, Storgar said:

Not so. They have said that re-releases will be done but at the same time new ships will continue to be released as before. Therefore new upgrades etc can be done in the new ship packs but when they re-release old ships with new sculpts and pilots they can stick to content that is in the conversion kits. This would make a very large difference as to the value of conversion kits and will give players a very real idea of the true cost to update the existing collections they own.

If they designed these conversion kits with all the existing ship upgrades & pilots in mind, this is the better path that they could possibly follow. That way, you can see the re-edition of older ships as "upgraded reprints" , just for the newer players. Meanwhile the "veterans" could stick to the new ship releases. And everybody would be happy.

#comprehensionfail

how about we just wait a couple months to see more of the contents of the conversion kits and blisters before we jump off a cliff...