1 hour ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

The Legends Expanded Universe.

There has always been a very vocal backlash against the old EU, but I loved it despite its many warts, (and oh boy did it have many.)

I still feel there were some magnificent gems that were terrible to lose, and a lot of those bemoaners missed out on some great Star Wars by not giving them a chance. 

Legends is terrible...in a wonderful fantastic way that only Star Wars can get away with.

I love legends. I think a large part of the vocal backlash comes as a response to the vocal legends fans who are so hostile towards the new canon.

Personally, I love both. I make a point of staying caught up with the new canon but I'm also slowly working my way through all the legends books I missed back in the day. Legends has a charm that nothing else can replicate but the new canon is just better, imo. It's consistently good instead of the rollercoaster that was legends.

But regardless of what anyone prefers, I wish more of us could just enjoy it all and not fight. It's all fun.

6 hours ago, Admiral Litje said:

I love every Star Wars story, even Battlefront II, and in a world where it is fashionable to hate something I treasure that feeling even more 

Are you me?

And don’t forget, the BEST of legends (from LFLs point of view) will find its way to new canonicity in some way... Eventually gifting us with the best of both worlds.

Spock.

Midichlorians

I will defend midichlorians to the day I die.

People: "The force is supposed to be mystical and this ruins it by turning it into science"
Me: "THAT'S THE POINT!"

The Jedi were super out of touch. They were so afraid of their emotions leading them to dark side that they started trying to abandon all emotion. This was ruining their connection to the force (causing them to be so blind they didn't notice the sith taking over).

Midichlorians were supposed to be something to help illustrate how overly clinical the Jedi were about things. They were using their minds instead of their hearts and that is what led to their downfall.

It's just another one of many good ideas that are executed poorly in the prequels.

Also, my interpretation is that the midichlorians are not the force like some people think, but a result of the connection that a jedi has.

Look at it like this:

Imagine the force is testosterone.

My co-worker is swole af. He goes to the gym all the time and works out. I look like Micheal Cera. Chances are, he has way more testosterone flowing through him than I do. A lot more.

If you pumped me full of testosterone, I would not be able to beat him at arm wrestling. But if I worked out like no tomorrow, one day I might be able to beat him (not really). However, if I did that, my body would also probably be producing way more testosterone than it is now.

Some guys naturally have more testosterone than others, and those guys are naturally stronger. But that means nothing unless you stay in shape.

At least, that's how I look at it. I know that does not exactly match how qui-gon described it...but qui-gon was also explaining it to a 10 year old.

2 minutes ago, Cade Bulkin said:

Midichlorians

I will defend midichlorians to the day I die.

People: "The force is supposed to be mystical and this ruins it by turning it into science"
Me: "THAT'S THE POINT!"

The Jedi were super out of touch. They were so afraid of their emotions leading them to dark side that they started trying to abandon all emotion. This was ruining their connection to the force (causing them to be so blind they didn't notice the sith taking over).

Midichlorians were supposed to be something to help illustrate how overly clinical the Jedi were about things. They were using their minds instead of their hearts and that is what led to their downfall.

It's just another one of many good ideas that are executed poorly in the prequels.

Also, my interpretation is that the midichlorians are not the force like some people think, but a result of the connection that a jedi has.

Look at it like this:

Imagine the force is testosterone.

My co-worker is swole af. He goes to the gym all the time and works out. I look like Micheal Cera. Chances are, he has way more testosterone flowing through him than I do. A lot more.

If you pumped me full of testosterone, I would not be able to beat him at arm wrestling. But if I worked out like no tomorrow, one day I might be able to beat him (not really). However, if I did that, my body would also probably be producing way more testosterone than it is now.

Some guys naturally have more testosterone than others, and those guys are naturally stronger. But that means nothing unless you stay in shape.

At least, that's how I look at it. I know that does not exactly match how qui-gon described it...but qui-gon was also explaining it to a 10 year old.

HOLY CRAP! I never thought of it like that and I really dig it!

7 minutes ago, Cade Bulkin said:

Midichlorians

I will defend midichlorians to the day I die.

People: "The force is supposed to be mystical and this ruins it by turning it into science"
Me: "THAT'S THE POINT!"

The Jedi were super out of touch. They were so afraid of their emotions leading them to dark side that they started trying to abandon all emotion. This was ruining their connection to the force (causing them to be so blind they didn't notice the sith taking over).

Midichlorians were supposed to be something to help illustrate how overly clinical the Jedi were about things. They were using their minds instead of their hearts and that is what led to their downfall.

It's just another one of many good ideas that are executed poorly in the prequels.

Also, my interpretation is that the midichlorians are not the force like some people think, but a result of the connection that a jedi has.

Look at it like this:

Imagine the force is testosterone.

My co-worker is swole af. He goes to the gym all the time and works out. I look like Micheal Cera. Chances are, he has way more testosterone flowing through him than I do. A lot more.

If you pumped me full of testosterone, I would not be able to beat him at arm wrestling. But if I worked out like no tomorrow, one day I might be able to beat him (not really). However, if I did that, my body would also probably be producing way more testosterone than it is now.

Some guys naturally have more testosterone than others, and those guys are naturally stronger. But that means nothing unless you stay in shape.

At least, that's how I look at it. I know that does not exactly match how qui-gon described it...but qui-gon was also explaining it to a 10 year old.

? So Anakin had more testosterone being a 10 years old lazy slave than the old jedi master Yoda who is using the force for a couple of centuries?

Are you saying me Anakin doped himself? ?

15 hours ago, Battlefleet 01 Studios said:

The Prequels in their entirety. I will defend them to the grave. They are flawed, I acknowledge this. But so too are all films.

Amen.

8 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Jar Jar Binks.

While I still find him annoying, I have to agree with this. Jar Jar represents the innocence and naivety of the Old Republic before the evil that was the Sith returned. Jar Jar, by only doing what he felt best, allowed that great evil to gain power, and eventually topple the Republic. He's a tragic character, made even worse by how the Naboo and Gungans treated him after the Empire came to power.

I'll throw my own out and say I love the New Jedi Order books. I'm in the middle of a reread, and I'd forgotten how awesome these books are. They have problems, to be sure, but overall they're great. The Vong are a great enemy in that they're different, and they radically change the status quo.

6 hours ago, LostFleet said:

hehehe next step would be renting a billboard across their office

You know, that might not be such a bad idea. (rubbing chin with hand)

7 hours ago, LostFleet said:

hehehe next step would be renting a billboard across their office

Honestly, at this point, if I lived where the HQ is, I prob would go up to there HQ at night, and post stickynotes all over there door that have the word "Venator" and "Armada" all over it with a few that say "Hint Hint" here and there.

3 hours ago, ryanabt said:

How old were you when it released?

28. And I was already a father for about a year.

I still think little Anakin is the problem of the film. (Although it could have been cool, if he destroyed the droid ship out of fear and hatred and not randomly pressing buttons while saying oops.)

36 minutes ago, Zeoinx said:

Honestly, at this point, if I lived where the HQ is, I prob would go up to there HQ at night, and post stickynotes all over there door that have the word "Venator" and "Armada" all over it with a few that say "Hint Hint" here and there.

I wish people at the finals had some word with developers,

I wish developers actually had ears... They are clearly a alien race composed of no ears, and no eyes. Otherwise we would have the Venator, Arc-170, V-Wing and the SSD Lusyanka in game already.

I'm an OG Star Wars Fan (seriously I was 2 when Ep IV came out and it had huge impact on my development.)

I love the prequels. I love midichlorians. I love The Last Jedi. I love how Luke turned out.

I think a better question is this:

What aspect of star wars that is pretty much universally loved do you hate?

My Answer is Thrawn...though they did a lot to make him better in Rebels.

Same thing with Pre-Clone Wars (cartoon, not historical event) Mandolorians.

5 hours ago, FoaS said:

HOLY CRAP! I never thought of it like that and I really dig it! 

Thank you! I feel like most of the things in the prequels have good ideas behind them...they are just terribly, terribly executed. They are bad films with a good center.

5 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

? So Anakin had more testosterone being a 10 years old lazy slave than the old jedi master Yoda who is using the force for a couple of centuries?

Are you saying me Anakin doped himself? ? 

Yup. Qui-Gon saw him and was like "whoah....this kid's swole af"

I like to imagine little annie asking sebulba if he even lifts.

45 minutes ago, Zeoinx said:

I wish developers actually had ears... They are clearly a alien race composed of no ears, and no eyes. Otherwise we would have the Venator, Arc-170, V-Wing and the SSD Lusyanka in game already.

They have "Selective Deafness Disease".

It's a very common aliment in both PR and Dev roles, leading to both parties missing out on key information from their "loyal" community.

An example of "Selective Deafness Disease" in action is as follows:

Dev: What are the community asking for?

PR: I dunno, something about SSDs and Venators.

Dev: What exactly were they saying about them?

PR: No sure, complaints I think.

Dev: Ah, that means they mustn't want them.

PR: I guess so.

Dev: Ok then, I'll get the others and keep on working on this X-wing thing. Make sure to put X-wing in that Hyperspace Report article.

PR: Sure thing.

Two hours later...

PR: Did Dev say to add "X-wing" to the article, or Destiny? Eh, screw it. I'll put all of them. That way I've covered all possibilities.

18 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

HINT IS THIS BIG ENOUGH? No...OK....

This might be big enough!

Still not big enough of a hint?

CAN YOU GET THE HINT YET FFG

I half expected to see a link to a 3D printable venator file in there.

1 hour ago, DrakonLord said:

I half expected to see a link to a 3D printable venator file in there.

You need to contact Mel for that. :3

10 hours ago, FoaS said:

HOLY CRAP! I never thought of it like that and I really dig it!

I was in my teens when the prequels came out (I think), and I've never seen it any other way. A genetic trait that gives you greater connection to the force, something that easily could have been selected for in a Darwinian fashion when the force was first "discovered".

15 hours ago, Triangular said:

28. And I was already a father for about a year.

I still think little Anakin is the problem of the film. (Although it could have been cool, if he destroyed the droid ship out of fear and hatred and not randomly pressing buttons while saying oops.)

The novelization of the first film does a better job on Anakin destroying the droid ship. The force gives him a feeling that something dark is in a part of the ship and he instinctively fires in said direction, starting the chain reaction that destroys the droid ship. He still says “oops,” but it’s more out of a child’s misunderstanding of why he just did what he did.

8 hours ago, Admiral Theia said:

I was in my teens when the prequels came out (I think), and I've never seen it any other way. A genetic trait that gives you greater connection to the force, something that easily could have been selected for in a Darwinian fashion when the force was first "discovered".

I think you're giving Lucas too much credit.

Again, I'm just a crazy old man who lives out beyond the Dune Sea. I really like the mystery of Star Wars. To me, it's always been a fantasy story and as such, it means things don't need to be explained. The "tell don't show" in Episode 4 and 5 is awesome! "Clone war? What's that?!" "How the **** did the Emperor dissolve the Senate?" As a kid, being able to join in the creative process and imagine what you thought was the answer is awesome. Essentially, what you're doing with the Medichorines.

1 hour ago, ricefrisbeetreats said:

I really like the mystery of Star Wars. To me, it's always been a fantasy story and as such, it means things don't need to be explained. The "tell don't how" in Episode 4 and 5 is awesome! "Clone war? What's that?!" "How the **** did the Emperor dissolve the Senate?" As a kid, being able to join in the creative process and imagine what you thought was the answer is awesome.

Sooo, like Who is Snoke and how did he rise to power? First Order seems to arise out of nowhere, how? Etc. cause most people are pissed they dont have answers. But thats exactly what the OT did, so why are those people upset now?

9 minutes ago, Syleh Forge said:

Sooo, like Who is Snoke and how did he rise to power? First Order seems to arise out of nowhere, how? Etc. cause most people are pissed they dont have answers. But thats exactly what the OT did, so why are those people upset now?

Dunno. A lot of people nowadays don't like mystery.

Edit: I should probably clarify:

I think a lot of the "whys" you present there from the sequel trilogy are brought up because there was a neat bow tied on to the original trilogy. In a fairytale/fantasy story, defeating the big bad is all you need to do to win and save the world/kingdom. In reality, in a power vacuum, someone will come to take the Emperor's place.

So, I think it comes down to people who want every detail of the Star Wars universe asking the who/what/when/where/why questions and then the people who are trying to integrate the new films into the story told in the older movies where you get the impression the heroes won and the story is over.

Unfortunately, there's no good answer. People like different things. Even as a kid, I loved reading the Hobbit/Lord of the Rings and having Aragorn sing a song about Beren and Luthien only to find out there's this whole other side story about that stuff or wonder what's going on when Gandalf talks about the Nameless Things.

21 hours ago, Cade Bulkin said:

Midichlorians

I will defend midichlorians to the day I die.

People: "The force is supposed to be mystical and this ruins it by turning it into science"
Me: "THAT'S THE POINT!"

The Jedi were super out of touch. They were so afraid of their emotions leading them to dark side that they started trying to abandon all emotion. This was ruining their connection to the force (causing them to be so blind they didn't notice the sith taking over).

Midichlorians were supposed to be something to help illustrate how overly clinical the Jedi were about things. They were using their minds instead of their hearts and that is what led to their downfall.

It's just another one of many good ideas that are executed poorly in the prequels.

Also, my interpretation is that the midichlorians are not the force like some people think, but a result of the connection that a jedi has.

Look at it like this:

Imagine the force is testosterone.

My co-worker is swole af. He goes to the gym all the time and works out. I look like Micheal Cera. Chances are, he has way more testosterone flowing through him than I do. A lot more.

If you pumped me full of testosterone, I would not be able to beat him at arm wrestling. But if I worked out like no tomorrow, one day I might be able to beat him (not really). However, if I did that, my body would also probably be producing way more testosterone than it is now.

Some guys naturally have more testosterone than others, and those guys are naturally stronger. But that means nothing unless you stay in shape.

At least, that's how I look at it. I know that does not exactly match how qui-gon described it...but qui-gon was also explaining it to a 10 year old.

lol, you actually believe this over "Lucas needed an out"

16 minutes ago, FourDogsInaHorseSuit said:

lol, you actually believe this over "Lucas needed an out"

Well, midichlorians were thought up before A New Hope , according to earlier drafts of the scripts. I am not sure why he decided against mentioning them, but he never ditched the idea. He just waited a while before introducing them.