Well, let's first acknowledge that FFG had a pretty difficult task in determining the specific contents of the Conversion Kits. We all have different collections. The Kits need to adress this, be reasonably encompassing and yet not so packed that the customers would feel obligated to pay for a lot of stuff they didn't need. Someone was always going to be disappointed.

Still, what we got doesn't really make sense to me. Especially the spread between small and large ships. I'd wager cardboard space is the primary limiting factor. Removing components for one large based ship (1 dial and 2 large bases) should easily make room for two small ships (2 dials and ¨2 small bases - no reason to include the unique pilots again). With that in mind, the rebel Conversion Kit could have included this:

Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit (my whishes)

5 – A-wing
2 – ARC-170
2 – Auzituck Gunship
4 – B-wing
2 – E-wing
1 – Ghost
2 – HWK-290 
3 – K-wing
1 – Millennium Falcon
1 – Phantom I
1 – Phantom II
1 – Sabine’s TIE Fighter
1 – U-wing
5 – X-wing
4 – Y-wing
1 – YT-2400
6 – Z-95 Headhunter 

Instead of this :

Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit (official)

3 – A-wing
2 – ARC-170
2 – Auzituck Gunship
2 – B-wing
2 – E-wing
2 – Ghost
2 – HWK-290 
2 – K-wing
2 – Millennium Falcon
2 – Phantom I
2 – Phantom II
2 – Sabine’s TIE Fighter
2 – U-wing
2 – X-wing
2 – Y-wing
2 – YT-2400
4 – Z-95 Headhunter 

Same goes for scum and Empire. I might just be projecting my own whishes... What makes more sense to you?

Nevermind.

Think you’re projecting. 4 Bs but not 4 Auzitucks? 3 Ks but not Arcs? 5 X-Wings when the core set already has one and Saw’s Renegades will have 2e content?

There are individual specific changes I would want to better fit my collection: 3 A’s for example aren’t needed for me since I haven’t run more than 1-2 at a time on the table, but I would want 3 Defenders in an Imperial kit, etc. Everyone probably has their own ideal wishlist but for a generic upgrade kit I think they did a pretty decent job even if it’s not my ideal.

I just want to know how many ships the conversion kit converts AND how does 2nd edition integrate with epic??

The info on the Kits is in the FAQ:

Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit

3 – A-wing
2 – ARC-170
2 – Auzituck Gunship
2 – B-wing
2 – E-wing
2 – Ghost
2 – HWK-290 
2 – K-wing
2 – Millennium Falcon
2 – Phantom I
2 – Phantom II
2 – Sabine’s TIE Fighter
2 – U-wing
2 – X-wing
2 – Y-wing
2 – YT-2400
4 – Z-95 Headhunter  

Galactic Empire Conversion Kit

2 – Alpha -class Star Wing
3 – Inquisitor’s TIE
2 – Lambda -class Shuttle
2 – TIE Advanced
3 – TIE Aggressor
3 – TIE Bomber
2 – TIE Defender
4 – TIE Fighter
3 – TIE Interceptor
2 – TIE Phantom
2 – TIE Punisher
3 – TIE Striker
3 – VT-49 Decimator 

Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit

2 – Hound’s Tooth
2 – HWK-290
2 – IG-2000
3 – Kihraxz Fighter
2 – Kimogila Fighter
4 – M3-A Interceptor
2 – Mist Hunter
3 – Protectorate Starfighter
2 – Punishing One
3 – Quadjumper
2 – Scurrg H-6 Bomber
2 – Shadow Caster
2 – Slave I
2 – StarViper
2 – Y-wing
4 – Z-95 Headhunter

Was in the FAQ linked in the article. Epic had something in the interview video to the effect of not yet but happening?

Think you’re projecting. 4 Bs but not 4 Auzitucks? 3 Ks but not Arcs? 5 X-Wings when the core set already has one and Saw’s Renegades will have 2e content?

There are individual specific changes I would want to better fit my collection: 3 A’s for example aren’t needed for me since I haven’t run more than 1-2 at a time on the table, but I would want 3 Defenders in an Imperial kit, etc. Everyone probably has their own ideal wishlist but for a generic upgrade kit I think they did a pretty decent job even if it’s not my ideal.

Yeah, probably true. Still think more players would be better served from more small based ships and fewer large based. But, whatever really. X-wing 2.0!

so for those of us that basically bought enough ships to make a complete squad of 100 points will now be required to purchase multiple conversion kits.. so that is 300 bucks right off the bat and then add in another 100 for the First Order stuff.. yikes....

I think some of those large base will be medium bases now, Slave I reportedly is.

1 minute ago, Swedge said:

so for those of us that basically bought enough ships to make a complete squad of 100 points will now be required to purchase multiple conversion kits.. so that is 300 bucks right off the bat and then add in another 100 for the First Order stuff.. yikes....

If you buy 2 each of all 3 factions kits because you absolutely need them, yeah you spend $300 to be all in on converting a 14 waves of content miniatures game to a new edition. If you plan on also buying any of the new ship models at all I’d probably not go spend $300 plus the $49.99 core set day 1 myself.

1 minute ago, mdl0114 said:

If you buy 2 each of all 3 factions kits because you absolutely need them, yeah you spend $300 to be all in on converting a 14 waves of content miniatures game to a new edition. If you plan on also buying any of the new ship models at all I’d probably not go spend $300 plus the $49.99 core set day 1 myself.

you would need multiple conversion kits to fly ANY swarms...

30 minutes ago, Calibri Garamond said:

Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit (my whishes)

5 – A-wing
2 – ARC-170
2 – Auzituck Gunship
4 – B-wing
2 – E-wing
1 – Ghost
2 – HWK-290 
3 – K-wing
1 – Millennium Falcon
1 – Phantom I
1 – Phantom II
1 – Sabine’s TIE Fighter
1 – U-wing
5 – X-wing
4 – Y-wing
1 – YT-2400
6 – Z-95 Headhunter 

Screw you I need 3 of those!!! ?

Bleh, I either need 2 Imp kits or I'll have to do some trading.

Honestly, I would have preferred cheaper kits for individual ships so I could just order the exact ones I need. Having one attempt at a "catch-all" kit seems unnecessary.

You can fly a 6 TIE swarm with the kit plus core set, 7 if they also sell a TIE fighter new model. 4 X-Wings with the kit, Saw’s Renegades, and core. You can’t 4 Auzituck or B-Wing but I can see FFGs side of wanting to sell their new models. Also, since cross faction ship buying isn’t needed, if you absolutely must fly a swarm day 1 the best solution seems to be pick 1 faction and go. $100 plus $50 for the core seems like a great buy for an entire faction of a miniatures game. If you want 12 Xs to epic play you’re maybe going to need to do the free squad builder and print stuff rather than drop in 5 rebel conversion kits plus Renegades and core, I’d think though.

We can't forget that almost all of us will not have the perfect match up for conversion kits. I'm sure that doing ship swaps at your flgs will become a big thing. EBay Etc.

Only then will we know what they're truly is a shortage of.

I'm hoping that actual sales data Idrove the numbers included

eBay I’m sure will be a great place to get individual ship conversions, especially if people buy, for example, 2 imperial kits but only can fit 3 defenders in a list.

12 minutes ago, Swedge said:

so for those of us that basically bought enough ships to make a complete squad of 100 points will now be required to purchase multiple conversion kits.. so that is 300 bucks right off the bat and then add in another 100 for the First Order stuff.. yikes....

Sounds like a great reason to find people at your FLGS who need other ships and trade with them. Or buy them from the inevitable eBay resellers.

I just need to buy some left over A-Wing kits from others and I'll be good with what is included in the Rebel kit. Tie fighter players will have 6 at the end of the day (2 core, 4 conversion kit) overall... I think they did a decent job. I only need 1` of each personally...

Ill need 2 imp kits - a 3rd for my 12 tie/lns, but I'll skip that - and probably 2 fo kits since I own 7 /fo fighters...

But guess what? I'm happy they do it this way. If they really fix what they are claiming to fix... lucky us.

was also wonder if one Needs the new Core set. i would assume Yes ...

7 minutes ago, Swedge said:

was also wonder if one Needs the new Core set. i would assume Yes ...

I think it will have a damage deck. and I'm betting they won't allow the "old" damage deck this time.

I realize that this isn't going to match people's collections all that well, but some things don't make any sense. Like 3 Quadjumpers or 3 Decimators when you only have 2 X-wings. It takes a serious collector to own 3 Quadjumpers but then things like 4 TIE or 2 y-wing, when its pretty easy to own that many, even for casual, doesn't make much sense to me.

39 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

Bleh, I either need 2 Imp kits or I'll have to do some trading.

Honestly, I would have preferred cheaper kits for individual ships so I could just order the exact ones I need. Having one attempt at a "catch-all" kit seems unnecessary.

I cannot imagine doing it piecemeal being cheaper, in total, at all. Instead of 3 sets of packaging and 3 sets of the punchboard sheets and cards, you have to account for, design packaging and sheets for, and produce 50+ individual kits to cover every existing ship in the game. There's no way in **** doubling the number of X-wing SKUs in one go ends up cheaper than doing them in bulk, for FFG or for us.

That said, yeah, the contends of the kits themselves are maybe not ideal for some people, I get that. The thing that's weird about them is...

24 minutes ago, PastrySandwich said:

I realize that this isn't going to match people's collections all that well, but some things don't make any sense. Like 3 Quadjumpers or 3 Decimators when you only have 2 X-wings. It takes a serious collector to own 3 Quadjumpers but then things like 4 TIE or 2 y-wing, when its pretty easy to own that many, even for casual, doesn't make much sense to me.

Yeah, all of that. You can't even field 3 Decimators in standard play, you can barely run 2 if you don't use any upgrades though things like double Falcon lists have been around before, is there anyone, even among Epic players, that even owns 3? The X-wing count makes some sense, given the Saw's Renegades box is going to have 2.0 X-wing stuff in it as well, so you'll already have a heads up on that.

Basically, there was probably no way they were going to be able to put something out that would work for everyone, in one package, at a single price...but all the same some of their choices are a bit weird. I anything, I'd have gone for 1 of for all of the large ships that are currently at 2(or 3....), at that point the contents of a given kit is basically half a list's worth of each individual ship; half a tie swarm, half the X-wings you can fit in a given list, a single Falcon taking roughly half your list, etc. That would let them bring the cost down a bit(you're probably able to cut at least one punchboard sheet that way), and it wouldn't sting as much buying two and ending up with, say, 6 Decimator dials...

Seriously, 3 VT-49s? That's gotta be a typo right?

I think the numbers should reflect a mixture of what people generally run and what people would have a minimum of if they bought at least one of everything. Right now I would be short an X-Wing because of my transport. Maybe they plan to include stuff in an epic conversion later but I see it as an annoying cash grab on there part. 3 Decimators is just silly.

3 Decimators is the one bit of weirdness, with core 2 X-wings seems like a reasonable number for this style kit. My guess is either Decis are getting a crazy makeover and rework or it’s a typo.