Alright guys, lets start up the betting pool

What do you think the very first complaint threads will be when 2.0 launches? Pick the top 3 you think will pop up first! Bonus points for guessing the correct order!

Let's get a list going, shall we?

1.) Squad App doesn't work/is ****/costs $
(privateer press actually had these problems)

2.) Limited Gencon Release is unfair!

3.) STOCK ISSUES!!!!!!!

4.) Mobile Arcs are the New Turrets!

5.) Force Powers are BROKEN!

6.) [Insert ship/pilot here] is BROKEN!

7.) GREEN DICE STILL EXIST

sorry, this is practically guaranteed

8.) TOO COMPLICATED!
credit to
@GreenDragoon

9.) TOO EXPENSIVE/FFG IS EVIL
credit to
@Djaskim609

10.) My Alt Arts!?!?!
credit to
@Dwing

???.) Wildcard: No Complaints, just Extreme Star Wars Jubilation

8. too complex

I will start one... MY BEAUTIFULL ALT ARTS... AND THE UGLY ONES TO!!!!

9. F this is effing expensive

No dice changes is a bit of a miss, but this is early. I would have liked to see accuracy and damage separated and surges could have given some interesting effects that could be changed for each pilot.

If they are going to revamp the game, why not do agility more like D&D?

2dG+1, 1dG+2, etc...

2 and 3, transitioning to 4, 5, and 8 as the meta actually forms. Depends on how early all the existing changes are spoiled, but I expect there to be a time of some significant overlap between post-GenCon spoilers and meta complaints truly taking hold.

I don't know that they're evil--it may be good. I'm just thinking about how much I'm going to have to shell out to play. One faction at a time, I guess. (call it sticker shock)

so in order to make your current ships "legal"... it will cost you $150.... how anyone can say this is a good thing is beyond me.

it depends on the app, mostly

the app removes the need to buy expansions you don't want to get the cards you need to compete in top level tournies

but if the app sucks...


but yes, cost can be a valid concern

Having to buy multiple conversion sets at $50.00 a pop!

yeah! I'm excited. ☹️

To that guy I just sold my System Open Bounty Hunter alt arts and Damage Deck to for £80 on eBay...

...I'm sorry. no refunds

1. Balancing issues - new OP

2. Software issues with the app

3. People bumping their new X-wings all over the table when they try to open and close the S-foils. (To be fair, this was coming regardless.)

1: squad builder not working properly. They've said it'll be free.

2: Old template sets not being fully legal.

Everything else seems pretty fine.

TOTAL MONEY GRAB!!!!!!!!!

Sell me a game, then change the rules, then sell me the changed rules.... Its BS! I get that some mechanics and older ships are now irrelevant, but if FFG really is doing this for the purposes of fixing the game then they shouldn't be SELLING me the tools i need to keep playing something i already paid for.

If this was a video game, it would be the equivalent of charging for a patch.

1 minute ago, 48kilos said:

TOTAL MONEY GRAB!!!!!!!!!

Sell me a game, then change the rules, then sell me the changed rules.... Its BS! I get that some mechanics and older ships are now irrelevant, but if FFG really is doing this for the purposes of fixing the game then they shouldn't be SELLING me the tools i need to keep playing something i already paid for.

If this was a video game, it would be the equivalent of charging for a patch.

No, it would be the equivalent of a sequel.

11. Complaint threads about possible complaints players may make. Bonus points if it's some yahoo with over 20,000 posts.

unfortunately you can't post bets for things that have already happened ?

Just a thought. What if all the casual players said "screw it, I'll play Version 1 casual". Can the competitive players keep X-wing afloat?

I don't get enough Defender tokens in one core set for all my defenders

Like I will play trip defenders again lol

2 minutes ago, Stoneface said:

Just a thought. What if all the casual players said "screw it, I'll play Version 1 casual". Can the competitive players keep X-wing afloat?

ideally, 2.0 is more interesting than 1.0

both ito balance and in terms of "things you can do"

As I read the lists of what's in the conversion kits (crap, I'm probably going to buy like 2 of each of those to fly a lot of lists I like...), here's one thing which strikes me: I don't see First Order/Resistance stuff listed. B/SF-17 Bomber, TIE Silencer at least. Perhaps T-70, TIE/SF, TIE/FO are titles applied to baseline X-Wings and TIE Fighters, but still: I don't see Silencer or Resistance Bomber listed.

Just now, theBitterFig said:

As I read the lists of what's in the conversion kits (crap, I'm probably going to buy like 2 of each of those to fly a lot of lists I like...), here's one thing which strikes me: I don't see First Order/Resistance stuff listed. B/SF-17 Bomber, TIE Silencer at least. Perhaps T-70, TIE/SF, TIE/FO are titles applied to baseline X-Wings and TIE Fighters, but still: I don't see Silencer or Resistance Bomber listed.

Resistance and first order conversion kits are coming wave II

3 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

As I read the lists of what's in the conversion kits (crap, I'm probably going to buy like 2 of each of those to fly a lot of lists I like...), here's one thing which strikes me: I don't see First Order/Resistance stuff listed. B/SF-17 Bomber, TIE Silencer at least. Perhaps T-70, TIE/SF, TIE/FO are titles applied to baseline X-Wings and TIE Fighters, but still: I don't see Silencer or Resistance Bomber listed.

Resistance and FO are own factions now. Epic ships aren't in the conversion kits either. Guess they'll cost extra again.

3 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

As I read the lists of what's in the conversion kits (crap, I'm probably going to buy like 2 of each of those to fly a lot of lists I like...), here's one thing which strikes me: I don't see First Order/Resistance stuff listed. B/SF-17 Bomber, TIE Silencer at least. Perhaps T-70, TIE/SF, TIE/FO are titles applied to baseline X-Wings and TIE Fighters, but still: I don't see Silencer or Resistance Bomber listed.

What about the guys that use 5 A-Wings or 4 B-Wings? How many conversions are in a "kit"?