6 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

There's no reason third party builders couldn't still exist if the develelopers wanted. Now you'd just be doing updates whenever the official builder updated instead of when a new FAQ released. Personally, my current plan for aurora is to keep updating it through the rest of 1.0, then retire it from active development, but keep the 1.0 version on the app store for people that still play that instead of upgrading to 2.0.

In fairness, you can now only fly 8 of each of those small ships in epic now instead of 12 anyway :P. So 2 conversion kits covers you for fighters (and probably FOs), though Defenders and Interceptors would be more painful if you wanted to bring 8.

As I say above, I plan to keep aurora on the app store for 1.0. Cant speak for others, but there's basically 0 effort required for the mobile apps to leave it on the app store if you don't plan to keep updating it.

Seriously, thank you for making 1.0 possible. I'm finding it hard to want to keep on with this game; I might change my mind, but in this moment I'm probably out.

Yeah, the 12 down to 8 was already a slap in the face for my purchasing dedication. This, now. . .I feel truly punished for investing so heavily in this game.

3 hours ago, Djaskim609 said:

50 bucks for each faction conversion kit---FU FFG. This really sucks--I built my collection over time and now I have to shell out this much effing cash?

You have 3 months to gather $200. It's getting released in august. Time to put 15 bucks into the X-Wing jar each week.

1 minute ago, SEApocalypse said:

You have 3 months to gather $200. It's getting released in august. Time to put 15 bucks into the X-Wing jar each week.

Glad my car is getting paid off in july, my income in august will have a huge boost lol

This is the most impressed I've been with FFG in over 3 years. I love the app idea as a warmachine player, I'd even take it further though. Remove all cards from the game and have them on the app only, still sell tokens, templates, and dials. If they did that I would 100% get back into this game.

16 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

They aren't the only force sensitive characters even in the GCW era. Ezra and Kanan from Rebels, Asajj in the shadowcaster , Corran Horn, Kyle Katarn, etc. There's plenty of force sensitive characters in the game right now.

I hadn't thought of her getting a Force ability. That's fantastic!

For those who haven't seen this:

https://imgur.com/a/BcrVtYI

17 minutes ago, Odanan said:

• No PS (in the card)? Or is it hidden in that image?
• No upgrades listed in the card?
• The Force! (purple)
• New Luke's hability!
• More resilient ships! (or the elimination of Integrated Astromech)
• Native barrel-roll on X-Wing.
• Now the ship is called T-65 X-Wing.

It's basically luke's old ability + extra. You can spend a force charge to change an eyeball to a hit/evade. So he gets the same basic effect on defense (he'll always have a force charge he can use to change an eyeball to an evade), but if he doesn't need it on defense he gets to keep it for later where it could be used for something else.

13 minutes ago, BigBadAndy said:

I'm not sure I would call it "ship spam" to want to fly a squadron of 3-4 x-wings in the game. Doesn't seem like a crazy, radical strategy only employed by people wanting to win a tournament. If I sit and play 1.0 in the basement with my friends 3/4 of the time I'm going against three Xwings because that's the name of the game and what people see in the movies. I have four B-wings because I wanted to fly a B wing squadron and my brother has 4 Kihraxz fighters. It's pretty typical and not "ship spam." So, $100 to upgrade those, or buy new ships. I know it seems minor in the grand scheme of things - and actually I am fairly well off so I won't even notice the $100. It's the feeling of being coerced into spending unnecessary money to stay "current" with your hobby game.

"Ship spam" in this case is running 100 point list of all one ship instead of having a variety. And as for "Doesn't seem like a crazy, radical strategy only employed by people wanting to win a tournament." the only tournament meta lists I see that couldn't be flown with one conversion kit are 3 or 4 auzitucks. Until you get down to #46 on meta wing for the next one, which is 3 scurrgs. One conversion kit gets you roughly half of a list worth of pilots. And you'll be able to run 3 x-wings anyway becuase you'll have one fromt he core set. and probably another from saw's renegades.

3 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:

You have 3 months to gather $200. It's getting released in august. Time to put 15 bucks into the X-Wing jar each week.

Andt hat's only if you're going to gencon. Otherwise it's mid-september.

3 minutes ago, Cpt Barbarossa said:

For those who haven't seen this:

https://i.imgur.com/IABidsk.jpg 

https://i.imgur.com/JorYRk5.jpg   

https://i.imgur.com/lxyWdLa.jpg 

https://i.imgur.com/dpZVMvi.jpg   

https://i.imgur.com/KOoAa6E.jp  g 

https://i.imgur.com/K8F8K8R.jpg 

https://i.imgur.com/Sr5BvOI.jpg 

these are neato

unfortunately axes my theory that the standalone boxes will help convert your models, though. only 1 dial

also, now everyone can be Biggs!

Hmm, there's a Neutralize Results step...

Looks like some astromechs have "charges" just like ordnance does.

Curious as to what the extra white lines on the ship tokens are for.

20 minutes ago, Stefan said:

Regarding the idea of Clone Wars factions, one should keep in mind that right now a completely new generation comes of age that doesn't bear the intense prequel-hatred that many older Star-Wars fans have. So...

At least ther isn't the issue of "Is the Republic Rebel or Imperial?" anymore.

A game that has 5 factions can have 7, right? ?

(I'm not buying the prequel ships, but that might be the next FFG's big step)

4 hours ago, xanderf said:

Conversion kits for each faction. This...this is okay. I'm okay with this.

I KNEW IT

Descent-style "Here, have new cards for your old plastic"

I KNEW IT

I also hoped it. Oh, glorious day...

Now the only question is if they can even vaguely manage at 200pts what balance they couldn't nail at 100. :p It's not like their primary issue was "Couldn't decide whether to round up or down on this ship", after all; the StarViper got a rebalance of a three point discount with a buff, fer crying out loud...

Still, it's hopeful. And never again will we sit there staring at another Jumpmaster and wondering how they're going to recost this one.

Having not had the chance to watch the videos, is the artwork final? I have to say, if those cards are what we'll actually be getting I'm a bit unimpressed.

Yeah, the greebling wasn't needed, but it sure looked cooler than big swatches of black, and I'm a little sad that they didn't try to upsize the spaceship art while they had the chance.

21 minutes ago, Cpt Barbarossa said:

For those who haven't seen this:

https://imgur.com/a/BcrVtYI

Good God, the new card design is atrocious. X-Wing was so beautiful...

4 minutes ago, Odanan said:

Good God, the new card design is atrocious. X-Wing was so beautiful...

I actually like it better. Full-size upgrade cards are easier to sleeve and harder to loose, and I always felt all the greebles and stuff on the old ones were too cluttery. I like how clean the new design is.

39 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:

You have 3 months to gather $200. It's getting released in august. Time to put 15 bucks into the X-Wing jar each week.

Gee, thanks, buddy. I'd never thought of saving before. Gosh, you're smart.

I'm going to give it a shot, but it's expensive, so before anyone else chimes in with condescending BS, try finding a new definition of pain and suffering as you are slowly digested over a thousand years

4 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

How many ships does each Conversion Kit convert?

Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit

2 – Hound’s Tooth
2 – HWK-290
2 – IG-2000
3 – Kihraxz Fighter
2 – Kimogila Fighter
4 – M3-A Interceptor
2 – Mist Hunter
3 – Protectorate Starfighter
2 – Punishing One
3 – Quadjumper
2 – Scurrg H-6 Bomber
2 – Shadow Caster
2 – Slave I
2 – StarViper
2 – Y-wing
4 – Z-95 Headhunter

1 hour ago, Richardizme said:

Whats range 0? The ship itself? Replacing range 1?

I'm wondering if anything on or touching your base is considered Range 0. So the ship itself and a ship that bumped it would both be at Range 0.

13 minutes ago, Djaskim609 said:

Gee, thanks, buddy. I'd never thought of saving before. Gosh, you're smart.

It's 10 times less expensive than the whole collection it converts. It's as well less expensive than the storage for the whole collection. And it will be even more of a bargain on ebay, because all those guys who don't have two of everything can re-sell half of their conversion kits. Which cuts down the costs to about $100. ?

That's less than the last wave did cost me. ?

@FTS Gecko I am sure we find some spares for you. I don't think I need my 3rd one for example.

4 hours ago, Sithborg said:

Yeah, the conversion kits for Rebels and Empire are kind of bull. Should have the support for 3 X-wings at least, and 8 TIEs.

Kinda hilarious and troll-worthy they just released the latest "fix" with Saws Renegades allowing you to fly 5 Xwings in a squad! Now you only need to buy 3 conversion kits at 50 bucks each to do so, congratulations! Thanks FFG...I think?

2 minutes ago, piznit said:

Kinda hilarious and troll-worthy they just released the latest "fix" with Saws Renegades allowing you to fly 5 Xwings in a squad! Now you only need to buy 3 conversion kits at 50 bucks each to do so, congratulations! Thanks FFG...I think?

uh...Saw's comes with 2.0 content

so you can fly the X from Saw's in X-wing 2.0

so, two conversion kits. Still $100, but $50 less

see: bottom of article

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/5/1/all-wings-report-in-1/

2 minutes ago, piznit said:

Kinda hilarious and troll-worthy they just released the latest "fix" with Saws Renegades allowing you to fly 5 Xwings in a squad! Now you only need to buy 3 conversion kits at 50 bucks each to do so, congratulations! Thanks FFG...I think?

2 ... You get one X-Wing in the new core set afterall. ?
Still not a fan of that, especially X-Wings might be the one and only ship that you will not see much in ebay either. °_^

Though if you get one kit, you can fly with Saw 4 X-Wings at least, because the new wave comes with 2.0 content already. So 1 X-Wing there, 1 in the core and two from the conversion kit.

3 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Me. I have over 500 models in the game. I just got royally f**ked.

No. Percentage wise, you pay the same as the rest of us, roughly speaking. There might be a few ships here and there that you need more, or have extras of.

You have a large collection... That means increased costs in everything. If you have a semi-truck, your bill at the petrol station is going to be higher.

2 hours ago, redxavier said:

Not sure I can really get onboard with the suggestion to "just play 1.0 then". The reason I've stopped playing is because 1.0 isn't good. That's the whole point of why we wanted 2.0!

So you stopped playing. What is the issue then?

You know what would actually make me exceptionally happy?

Huge nerfs to Xwing 1.0 to balance it as well as possible as an early expansion. Think Starcraft 1.

I would totally support FFG even more into 2.0 if they made it clear that they would balance 1.0 best they could.

The Conversion Boxes seem to be missing the pieces needed for some squadrons. You're going to need at least TWO of each of them to field some potential squadrons you can field now. Maybe all these newcomers only have 4 TIE Fighters but it seems to me that even if you only bought one of each product you'd have five of them. When it comes to X-Wings there are 3 now and soon will be 4 granted that 4th may already come with that 2e stuff.

All but need an App to play. This is going to SUCK unless it is stand alone and doesn't need to update every 5 minutes. Not everyone has internet connections that can handle much data transfer. You know, if they've got the app then why bother selling dice when they can just include the die app as part of the bigger thing and everyone can now use that?

Wonder if I get rid of my collection at the retail prices which of course seem to be going to jump once again.

5 minutes ago, StevenO said:

All but need an App to play. This is going to SUCK unless it is stand alone and doesn't need to update every 5 minutes. Not everyone has internet connections that can handle much data transfer.

There are downloadable points lists.