Reclassifying the Interdictor as a 'Star Destroyer' - would it help?

By xanderf, in Star Wars: Armada

Brought to mind from the recent (-ish) 'Star Wars Adventures' comic "Destroyer Down", where the Interdictor we are familiar with is clearly identified as an "Interdictor-class Star Destroyer".

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It's even named! The "Spectral".

What do we get re-classifying this as a "Star Destroyer"? Well, you can take the 7th Fleet Star Destroyer title, then. It helps make the support-mission Interdictors...a bit more support-y. Is that enough to matter? The Interdictor feels pretty far enough behind the curve I'm not sure that'd even help, really, but...I dunno.

See an Interdictor without the Interdictor title?

You save more damage by being able to Refresh Brunson for a second cancellation....

All it would help are Doubke Interdictor lists... and no one intelligent runs them... just me.

19 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

See an Interdictor without the Interdictor title?

You save more damage by being able to Refresh Brunson for a second cancellation....

All it would help are Doubke Interdictor lists... and no one intelligent runs them... just me.

Well the idea would be that the 7th Fleet title on the Interdictor would be used to feed someone else's defenses - not its own (IE., Brunson).

Still, Interdictor title + Targeting Scramblers is all but certainly going to stop more damage, and costs 8 pts compared to equipping 7th fleet to multiple ships at 5 pts each (really I don't think 7th fleet offers any particularly useful ability at all until you have 3 copies of it, although at that level you've got several ships potentially benefitting from it, so...)

I dunno, as suggested in the OP - really not sure it would be enough. Maybe 'Spectral' as a title that let the ship be treated as a 'Star Destroyer', ummm...and equip a second non-unique title, and...umm...also have some kind of upgrade-refresh capability like the Interdictor title?

Yyyyyyeah...

Pardon me, but is this thread about the Interdictor-class mainly, or the SFSD title?

Interdictor won Adepticon. It tanks like a MOTHER now with Brunson and Targeting Scramblers, and it HURTS with DCAP HIEs.

44 minutes ago, geek19 said:

Interdictor won Adepticon. It tanks like a MOTHER now with Brunson and Targeting Scramblers, and it HURTS with DCAP HIEs.

Ran into a DCAP HIE interdictor the other day, I ate my "ha ha, dictor's don't do damage" jokes.

Maybe the Spectral title gives it a second experimental retrofit slot if it doesn’t already have one, so you can use the Combat Interdictor. Perhaps once its shooting red dice, folks will consider it a star destroyer.

The inteardictor is in a pretty good place right now. I have played the squdron build with it and done well. I have also been playing around with it in an msu style fleet and that has done well also. I dare say an interdictor could take worlds this year.

Edited by xero989

If the Interdictor is sucking in the game, it at least is lore friendly, as it really didnt do much in the x-wing novels I read, I mean, sure, it gave the rogues a bit of a worry, but most the time it gets either destoryed, heavily damaged, or is frightened off and hyperspaces away.

In Empire at War, they were a annoyance at best, well, annoying if you were using a lot of ships that primary weapons were any form of Missiles or Torpedos. The Hyperspace block Could become a problem if you had a bunch of them, but in reality, if you let the Empire stock up on interdictors to cover the map, either they were underpowered in the damage department, OR you already lost the match to begin with.

Edit : That said, Campaign Interdictors were kinda more of a threat. Especially if you had a superior fleet backing the assault.

Edited by Zeoinx

Doesn't the comic say "the Imperial Star Destroyer Spectral "? So it's not referring to the interdictor that the image displays.

12 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

See an Interdictor without the Interdictor title?

You save more damage by being able to Refresh Brunson for a second cancellation....

All it would help are Doubke Interdictor lists... and no one intelligent runs them... just me.

I feel insulted!

Quite honestly Interdictors are an excellent counter to big ship meta. They control setup, obstacles (which are free damage vs big ships) and with HIE+Dcaps and a double arc an Interdictor is likely to put 8-11 damage (Long Range!!) on a Star Destroyer, and make 2 of their Defense tokens essentially useless after the first round of shooting.

Add to that Captain Brunson and Targeting Scramblers and you have a ship with 6 defense tokens (essentially), 5 Engineering, and even more options at survivability.

Underestimate them at your own peril. Someone who knows what theyre doing might just light your christmas tree up.

Edited by Syleh Forge

I run a fighting Interdictor almost every time I run Imperials. I ran it before HIE came out (used H-CIT before) and didn’t have issue. HIE has made it even more fun.

SuppressionRefit/Interdictor/Tua/ECM/GSR/Scramblers/HIE/Dcaps.

I have not tried the new crew on it just because our meta is all large ships right now

5 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Doesn't the comic say "the Imperial Star Destroyer Spectral "? So it's not referring to the interdictor that the image displays.

it's made pretty clear in the comic that the Spectral is the ship in the image.

It's an "Imperial Star Destroyer" not an "Imperial- class Star Destroyer" - it's just a Star Destroyer built by the Empire, that happens to have interdiction generators.

Given that it matches up to the "Interdictor Star Destroyer"

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interdictor-class_Star_Destroyer

It's safe to say that it can be summed up as "Imperial Star Destroyer, Interdictor- class".

That said, technically the stern of the ship looks a little different from that of the ships seen in Rebels:

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raising the possibility that the prototypes differ from the production model vessels.

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3 minutes ago, Ironlord said:

it's made pretty clear in the comic that the Spectral is the ship in the image.

It's an "Imperial Star Destroyer" not an "Imperial- class Star Destroyer" - it's just a Star Destroyer built by the Empire, that happens to have interdiction generators.

Given that it matches up to the "Interdictor Star Destroyer"

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interdictor-class_Star_Destroyer

It's safe to say that it can be summed up as "Imperial Star Destroyer, Interdictor- class".

Which is not SUPPOSED to be the same thing we have here in Armada - not by the Rebels design team intent.

Their stated intent was a larger ship than the classic 418, but still a purpose built prototype vessel class rather than a refit or variant Imperial.

I prefer a slightly reduction of points maybe 6-8 points per version. As others said interdictor + brunson or scramblers are better

3 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

Which is not SUPPOSED to be the same thing we have here in Armada - not by the Rebels design team intent.

Their stated intent was a larger ship than the classic 418, but still a purpose built prototype vessel class rather than a refit or variant Imperial.

Eh...citation needed?

The Rebels concept art gallery definitely labels it (the ship we have) as an 'Imperial Star Destroyer - Interdictor' . (Or are we agreeing, past each other? AFAIK, the "classic" 418 Interdictor has not re-appeared in canon, yet. The ship that we have in the game appears to be the same type of ship that showed up in 'Rebels' and is also the same ship in this comic - in two of the three places identified as an 'Imperial Interdictor Star Destroyer', with only FFG the odd man out not using that wording. Although, interestingly, FFG doesn't call it anything - not a cruiser or whatever, just 'Interdictor' and that's it. )

3 hours ago, Ironlord said:

That said, technically the stern of the ship looks a little different from that of the ships seen in Rebels:

raising the possibility that the prototypes differ from the production model vessels.

The difference is slight, and it is a comic book drawing, which means...we can assume some liberties were taken with the fine details of it.

(Not that I'd mind the pairs of smaller engines on the back being replaced with larger engines...for a more classic 3-engine-set...being a type variant of the Interdictor. Maybe one version is the suppression refit and the other is the combad refit...)

The 418 is Canon thanks to "Tarkin". It has just not visually appeared in a Canon source yet. However, the one in comic looks like a 418, so without clarification, take your pick.

4 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

Which is not SUPPOSED to be the same thing we have here in Armada - not by the Rebels design team intent.

Their stated intent was a larger ship than the classic 418, but still a purpose built prototype vessel class rather than a refit or variant Imperial.

The point is, Imperial Star Destroyers come in many classes - Imperial-class, Victory-class .... and Interdictor-class.

The newcanon novel Heir to the Jedi (set a few weeks after ANH) clarifies that the production of 600m Immobilizer 418s has stopped (though their use continues), in favour of the production of "Star Destroyers with interdiction field generators". The Interdictor-class Star Destroyer is exactly that - big enough to warrant the phrase "Interdictor Star Destroyer" rather than "Interdictor cruiser".

1 hour ago, xanderf said:

Eh...citation needed

The moment I can, I will.

fibding videos of odd panel discussions and narryingbthen with online QA is not easy

15 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

The moment I can, I will.

The Legends "Interdictor Star Destroyer" is a different chassis from the "Newcanon Interdictor Star Destroyer" - in Legends, they started with the Imperial-class chassis and heavily modified it, in Newcanon, they created a whole new chassis (that closely resembles Interdictor cruiser concept art but is much larger - large enough to have the hangar bay of an ISD.)