The Jam token doesn't fall off if the ship you give it to has no tokens to make it fall off with.

In short, it doesn't work unless you have multiple Jammers, and if he's the only Reaper in the list, Feroph might as well not have a pilot ability.

Just now, Superstrength79 said:

How is this even meant to work? Jam token literally falls off the moment you apply it.

Not if the ship doesn’t have any tokens to cancel the Jam token with.

1 minute ago, Superstrength79 said:

How is this even meant to work? Jam token literally falls off the moment you apply it.

If the target has no tokens the jam token stays

So if I understand this right, if Krennic Krennics himself he doubles as a free FCS

2 minutes ago, Favoritism Flight Games said:

Whisper + VI + Adv. Sensors + Director Krennic + Adv. Cloaking Device.....assign the prototype to Whisper.....

.....think about that one for a second.

I'm thinking its 46 points and unless there's a ready mechanic to control opponent's focus tokens then sensor jammer doesn't do much.

Also thinking that shooting at PS9 to re-cloak is "too late" given the high PS metagame at the moment.

Also not seeing the hype around a 2 point coordinate action. Squad Leader was 2 points and it was total trash. While this allows lower PS to coordinate higher PS ships as we've seen from the Ghost/Fenn meta it's primarily the strength of a higher PS ship allowing a lower PS ship to action which really shines.

Can someone please help me see the light here? I want to be optimistic.

1 minute ago, Biophysical said:

Yeah, pretty amazing. You give up Kylo or the Emperor to get Krennic. I feel like Krennic+Kylo+Rebel Captive is probably better than Emperor+Kylo, but I'm not at all an expert.

That's my hunch too. Unfortunately that puts you one point over for fully-loaded RAC and Vader with Harpoons.

4 minutes ago, Innese said:

>Place Krennic on Whisper

>Give Whisper Sensor Jammer

>Assign Optimized Prototype to Whisper.

>???

>Profit

Fundamentally Whisper is still weak to PS9+, though, and especially to PS9+ alpha strike, which there is still quite a lot of.

1 minute ago, Superstrength79 said:

How is this even meant to work? Jam token literally falls off the moment you apply it.

Only if they have a focus, evade, or TL. If they don't then the jam token stays until they acquire one of those at which point both it and the jam fall off.

Lot of looking at Krennic on Whisper, but what about Tactical Officer on Whisper for the coordinate (or a cheaper Phantom)? I feel like that's where the super combo is going to start...

3 minutes ago, Kdubb said:

2 points and a crew for coordinate is going to find a way to be busted.

Not unless the Empire gets a better value crew carrier that can get above PS9 it's not. Giving RAC's action away is very expensive, taking Tomax is very expensive, and everything else is lower PS. It's better than Fleet Officer, probably, but that's about it.

It's just so hopelessly overshadowed by the Sheathipede it's not funny.

Just now, ficklegreendice said:

So if I understand this right, if Krennic Krennics himself he doubles as a free FCS

Looks like it. As others have suggested, putting him on Whisper might be entertaining.

2 minutes ago, Superstrength79 said:

How is this even meant to work? Jam token literally falls off the moment you apply it.

Jam tokens that assigned to a ship with no token to remove stick to the ship until it gains one of those tokens.

Just now, SabineKey said:

Looks like it. As others have suggested, putting him on Whisper might be entertaining.

thread's moving so fast it's hard to keep track :p

yeah sensor whisper might be okay, problem is I don't think all those focused turrets will be playing ball with that build

You could use Isard, PTL off of the Evade action, and have Tac Officer to coordinate an action in the Combat Phase. You have to take damage first, though.

Looks nice! It has me twinging to get two of these and two more Strikers for an epic "cloud" force (Bespin map).

I like it much more than the rebel expansion, but that's because that's the most cynical plastic crack ploy that I've seen FFG make so far...

So on one hand, FFG show themselves to be abusive of their client base, making me want to quit, and on the other they produce this AWESOME looking expansion.

Gits.

Just now, ficklegreendice said:

thread's moving so fast it's hard to keep track ?

yeah sensor whisper might be okay, problem is I don't think all those focused turrets will be playing ball with that build

Heh, true.

Yeah, it might not be enough to get Whisper back in top tier, but I’m still looking forward to trying it out.

More traditional uses of Krennic (him on a carrier and giving the condition to someone else) was pretty sweet before, now works out even better for the carrier.

13 minutes ago, Superstrength79 said:

How is this even meant to work? Jam token literally falls off the moment you apply it.

Only works if the target doesn't/won't have tokens this turn - eg. if it's stressed or bumped or did a barrel roll instead etc. Or if two ships jam it. Seems more of an opportunistic ability rather than one you actually plan for.

"Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Director Krennic (5)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Kylo Ren (3)
Hotshot Co-pilot (4)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 103

Nearly? I suppose you drop EU here, and then you may as well go down to Adaptability which gives you 2 points extra for... I don't know. A bid? Dauntless?

And this would be my first try at Vader:

Darth Vader (29)
Adaptability (0)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)

Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Director Krennic (5)
Kylo Ren (3)
Rebel Captive (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 100

I guess we know now why the Reaper is small base...

1 minute ago, SabineKey said:

Heh, true.

Yeah, it might not be enough to get Whisper back in top tier, but I’m still looking forward to trying it out.

More traditional uses of Krennic (him on a carrier and giving the condition to someone else) was pretty sweet before, now works out even better for the carrier.

inb4 krennic combat reaper (LW, kallus, LWF), probably this guy



sure, ps 4, but so many mods!

still jank but c'mon, it's awesome

7 minutes ago, Rossetti1828 said:

Only works if the target doesn't/won't have tokens this turn - eg. if it's stressed or bumped or did a barrel roll instead etc. Or if two ships jam it. Seems more of an opportunistic ability rather than one you actually plan for.

Looks that way. Unless you fly your reaper with the double-jammer crew.

you know what's funny? people complained about jam not working on reinforce

now along comes Feroph, clearly not giving a **** about jammable wookies

good stuff

EDIT: hold the phone

probably already been covered, but the ISD slicers don't specify "another ship"



so you could jam something twice (first, knock off token as that resolves immediately when the token is assigned. second, assign jam). A ship is only "jammed" if a jammed token sticks

need higher ps to assure you jam after the opponent's action, though

Talk about EPT-central! All our complaining about the Lambda's lack of high-PS pilots missing talent is paying off!

So, is this going to displace the Palpshuttle? One extra point can mean a lot in palp ace builds. And if it is, is it just gonna be the PS1 with Palp or are we gonna find space for LWF?

21 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Not unless the Empire gets a better value crew carrier that can get above PS9 it's not. Giving RAC's action away is very expensive, taking Tomax is very expensive, and everything else is lower PS. It's better than Fleet Officer, probably, but that's about it.

It's just so hopelessly overshadowed by the Sheathipede it's not funny.

I mean, there was already the Squad Leader Youngster/Epsilon Ace combo...

1 minute ago, fhdz said:

So, is this going to displace the Palpshuttle? One extra point can mean a lot in palp ace builds. And if it is, is it just gonna be the PS1 with Palp or are we gonna find space for LWF?

I would expect we see multiple builds, especially early. That breakaway speed is real useful with Palp onboard.