Next Chapter Pack Expansion Set will be dedicated to the Brotherhood. Yeah!

I wonder if Asshai would be one of the subthemes included for this next cycle.

And correct me if I'm wrong (don't have any of the DotN CPs yet), but is that a picture of what I assume to be Lords of Winter's Jon Snow printed on the Tourney Rules?

Ruvion said:

No. It's the art they used for Grenn in Song of Twilight (2005/2006).

Ah.

Either the original was much better produced (when compared to the scanned card image on Tzu)
or FFG touched up on it recently.

Nevertheless a good piece of art that I hope sees the light of day again someday.

Yeah, the artwork in real life is almost always better than on Tzu's site. I remember when ITE was first released and he posted images from the Gen Con "pre-release" and though that Paxter Redwynne (?) was the worst art ever, but when I actually got a copy of the card I changed my mind. The scans don't always do the art justice.

Most of the art in the tourney rules is from Winter block, and it is fun to see it again. Although the set had its day in the sun, there are alot of cards that I wish were in the new format. This game has great artwork.

Back to topic, I'm really curious about Brotherhood. It is nice to see themes to the neutral characters that are being released, and lke both the Watch and Wildlings there are plenty of unique BwB characters that it won't be a flood of nameless chuds. I'm not sure which BwB characters would have house affiliations not because there aren't any, but because they generally gave up house allegiance when they joined the Brotherhood. Thoros, Harwin and Edric are the likely candidates, if any and I just can't see a Bara Thoros.

It would be cool if they gave them original house affiliations, but allowed an agenda that let you use brotherhood characters.

~Does this mean that Ghost of High Heart is actually playable? Just my luck that they finally print some when the card is rotated! The original had 'all brotherhood gain +1 strength and cannot be discarded'.

Awesome! I just saw this. SO excited. No matter if they are good or not, I will be playing them. I have George RR's signature on all the originals - Anguy, Beric, Mad Hunts, etc. When we saw him at GenCon SoCal I got them and my Lanni House Card - that is all I needed.

Better be a Lem this time or else!

rings said:

He could have the ability "If you wash this card, Lem gains the Kingsguard trait."

Check the news!. It's awesome!

I wonder if new House card is not too strong? (And Men With No King are no threat)

"the Lannister Clansman are designed around kneeling your own characters, and having fewer cards in hand than your opponents." - LOL I must see this.

"Working on this set was one of the most enjoyable experiences I’ve had with any set for A Game of Thrones" No wonder

Rogue30 said:

still are. New house = you have no house affiliation

MWnK = choose a character or location that does not have its owner's House affiliation.

no card in your deck will have its owner's house affiliation as there isn't one to have.

Lars said:

Keep in mind that with no House affiliation, you don't get any "House X only" cards, either.

So, too much work twisted my mind at last?

How can you tell that those characters doesn't have owner's House card affiliation if that owner doesn't have affiliation to compare?

If I say: Lars don't have X, where X may be car, money, blue eyes or big beard or whatever - am I saying true or false? I can't tell.

Rogue30 said:

From MwNK:

"...pay 2 gold to choose a character or location that does not have its owner's House affiliation."

So, you determine the owner's House affiliation and choose a character or location with one that doesn't match. When playing the neutral House card ("You do not have a House affiliation"), what is the "owner's" affiliation? He doesn't have one - by definition. If he doesn't have one, there can never be a match.

This is really the same reason MwNK can take a neutral character from a Stark player, just in reverse. So just like a neutral character cannot have its Stark owner's affiliation, a Stark character cannot have its neutral owner's affiliation.

So, every "neutral" deck has to prepare for MwnK so here's hoping there's a regain control card in here (or just run your own MwnKs).

And the Brotherhood Agenda having a way to keep power off your house card could make Flea Bottom Scavenger the best card draw in the game. 3 gold gets you a character and three cards. I'd run Dorne in every one of those decks.

This will be really interesting to see how it is going to pan out.

for any who missed it here's the text of theEuron card they accidentally spoiled

ECE 5 Gold, 4 STR MIP War Crest

Lord Ironborn Raider

renown

while ECE is attacking, Raider characters gain stealth and your opponent's cannot play events.

So the true queen agenda returns?

I wonder if infamy will return?

Lars said:

How would the new House card effect the gold cost of playing House cards into and out of Shadows? [For example Tyrion Lannister (King's Landing version).] My thought is that it would have no effect because its not played from hand as a house-related card. Then it would not get a card increase because Tyrion is coming into play from shadows and not from your hand.

all not neutral shadow cards have the "house only" text so unless you play City of Shadow agenda you cannot play them.

Not 'House only' cards can be played in general with that house card.

I think it would end up being a wash anyway yo'u'd have to run the Shadows Agenda, since as Gualdo said the in-house cardsa re all "house x only," and you have to pay a gold penalty then to bring them out of shadows.

Also, I lke that Euron. Greyjoy needs renown (well, perhaps) and that ability is killer. Combine him with Support of Harlaw and find a way to give him Intimidate and he's killer! Plus, the artwork is sharp.

Saintsman said:

Gualdo is correct.

All Shadows cards with a House affiliation will be illegal in a Neutral Faction deck because of the "House X only" rules.

If you play the Shadows Agenda, you can play the cards and you would be able to play them into Shadows without a gold penalty - but the Agenda will impose a +1 gold penalty to bring them out of Shadows that the House Card will not reduce (the cards are "coming into play," not being "played").

Bah. I thought I had chosen an example that was not "House X only." Shows how going from memory early in the morning gets you into trouble.

Saintsman said:

Well, don't worry. It's not like there is a non-neutral example for Shadows that isn't "House X only."